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(MTL / ARI) - Domi for Galchenyuk

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Jun. 15, 2018 at 11:34 p.m.
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Maybe.. he is making caproom to sign every UFA center on the market.. one should work out right?


so throw big money at Jack Johnson and Rick Nash?
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Jun. 15, 2018 at 11:37 p.m.
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Chucky is easily the better player with better potiential. He should have been kept or traded for a 2nd line centre or a 3rd +


Domi is younger. Puts up the same points. Will be cheaper. Chucky has more wear and tear. how does he have better potential?
Jun. 15, 2018 at 11:52 p.m.
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Domi is younger. Puts up the same points. Will be cheaper. Chucky has more wear and tear. how does he have better potential?


13 months younger is hardly worth mentioning and just comparing the raw numbers side by side Domi will be cheaper because he isn't as good... in regards to potiental there is no point to argue, both kids have their full careers ahead of them, once that is over we can argue who was better in future years. We've seen this type of deal before, in that, Bergevin has had his hand forced to trade Chucky because of the coach not wanting him. That said I am a fan of Domi but Galchenyuk is a better scorer in a league where goals are the premium.
I should add that I hope Domi scores 25 or 30 next year and Weber plays a full year for the Habs, its been bad deal after bad deal for Bergevin
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Jun. 16, 2018 at 12:05 a.m.
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Man, anything Bergevin's does is automatically considered as a bad move.
Who remember him moving Plekanec before the playoffs... Or even trading Morrow for a 4th and getting Reilly (improvement) for a 5th...
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Jun. 16, 2018 at 2:45 a.m.
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MTL needs: Centers and Goal scoring

Bergefail then trades one of the teams most talented goal scorers for another left handed winger with 9 goals last season (4 were empty nets)....

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Jun. 16, 2018 at 3:15 a.m.
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Domi is younger. Puts up the same points. Will be cheaper. Chucky has more wear and tear. how does he have better potential?


5 goals against a goalie last year. Five. FIVE. F I V E.
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Jun. 16, 2018 at 9:22 a.m.
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Man, another terrible move by the worst GM of the league by far!!! The only trade worst than that is Subban for Weber. I'm sure if almost all Habs fans could trade anyone in their franchise, it'd be Bergevin. He probably wants his team in the bottom of the table for some years. And he must achieve his goal. Poor Habs fans...
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Jun. 16, 2018 at 9:58 a.m.
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Man, anything Bergevin's does is automatically considered as a bad move.
Who remember him moving Plekanec before the playoffs... Or even trading Morrow for a 4th and getting Reilly (improvement) for a 5th...


Those trades don't make this one any better.
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Jun. 16, 2018 at 10:04 a.m.
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This is a bad trade ... Bergevin needs to at least get a few other assets back instead of 1-1 trades ... if he grabbed a draft pick (2nd or a 3rd) + Domi I'd be happier. Both are good players but Glachenyuk has a higher ceiling and that should be balanced out in the trade. Same with Weber-Subban, where he should have at least grabbed an extra pick to compensate for one player entering his prime and the other leaving it at the time of the trade.

Domi is a good player, but he still doesn't answer our core needs - 2 top 6 centres and a puck moving left D. I feel like Domi can play centre, but will be a bit like Drouin in that role, can do it but is really better off on the wing and neither will match up well against true top centres on other teams.
Jun. 16, 2018 at 10:55 a.m.
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Galchenyuk is a LW.


I meant they could have used galchenyuk in a trade to get a centre
Jun. 16, 2018 at 12:50 p.m.
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Given the fact that the Habs have seemingly swapped out skill players for guys with more grit (Galchenyuk for Domi, Subban for Weber, Eller for Shaw, Andrighetto for Martinsen, etc) it leaves me to believe that Brady Tkachuk has a very good chance of going at 3


or hopefully they think enough ******* grit pick zadina!
Jun. 16, 2018 at 12:56 p.m.
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CHAYKA: Max, we’ve granted you your wish
*Domi grinning*
CHAYKA: We’ve finally made a trade for you so that you can leave here
DOMI: Oh boss, thank you so mu-
CHAYKA: ... to Montreal
DOMI: *explicits*
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Jun. 16, 2018 at 12:57 p.m.
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June is a ***** for Berg
Jun. 16, 2018 at 1:03 p.m.
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Emotionally in 2018
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or hopefully they think enough ******* grit pick zadina!


But when was the last time this team made a sensible big decision?
Jun. 16, 2018 at 2:13 p.m.
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But when was the last time this team made a sensible big decision?


There's are probably going to pick Dobson at 3rd at this rate lmao
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Jun. 16, 2018 at 2:19 p.m.
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Bergevin can be considered good at depth moves, and if he wants to put his stamp of character and responsibility on the team, that's where he should be doing it.

Montreal's bottom 6 has rarely been an issue, until those players start floating up to the top 6. I doubt MB is familiar with the Peter Principle, and he needs a serious lesson on it.

We need a different voice weighing in on big trades, because that's where MB is failing hard. He's moving our most talented players, which is problematic but sometimes necessary. The issue is that he's doing it without addressing our needs.

When you have a young talented player with attitude or personality, it is your job to mold that player. It's part of their development. If you end up having to move a player because you just can't reach them (Kassian?), that's fine. Perhaps there is a player you just can't train, despite your best efforts.
When you have to move multiple players for similar reasons, it suggests the failure is not only the players'.

It is MB's responsibility to instill the values he wants in his players, and he has shown little ability to do so. It's not a coincidence that the most skilled, individualistic players, are the ones that get the stick treatment. He views them as liabilities rather than tools at his disposal, and he undervalues them as such.
In his mind, he's not trading a talented player. He's unloading a problem. That's why he gets less than expected in return.

The players that have the skill, character, and attitude that he wants, are players like Tavares. A player that was drafted and developed into the player he is today. He could have turned out differently, but he was groomed rather than chopped down at every opportunity.

In short, this is another instance of MB making a poor decision predicated on his inability to ensure the proper development of our prospects. He continues to be poor with development, fails to address our needs, and make poor trades as a result of both.
Jun. 16, 2018 at 2:24 p.m.
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But when was the last time this team made a sensible big decision?


Drafting Sergachev. Re-signing Price. Trading for Drouin. Trading for Weber. When was the last time this team made a non-sensible big decision?
Jun. 16, 2018 at 2:27 p.m.
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This is exactly like the Sergachev-Drouin trade. It’s way too early to judge the winner right now. Simmer down Bergevin haters.
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Jun. 16, 2018 at 2:48 p.m.
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But when was the last time this team made a sensible big decision?


Honestly, MB/Bowman fleischman Weise for danault and the 2018 2nd...38th..Ish pick
Jun. 16, 2018 at 3:44 p.m.
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Drafting Sergachev. Re-signing Price. Trading for Drouin. Trading for Weber. When was the last time this team made a non-sensible big decision?


Trading Subban for Weber, even though Subban is the superior player both now and in the long term. Trading a future top pairing defenseman for another winger. Failing to acquire a top line center when he’s moved so many pieces. Signing Alzner. Signing Carey Price to a massive extension that there’s very little chance he’s even worth half of it when it’s over, and the argument can be made he’s worth about 20% less than what he signed for (although this one is more difficult to call a “terrible” decision).


I’m not going to dive into these all, but the only ones who are thinking Bergevin is doing a good job are the Habs homers.
Jun. 16, 2018 at 4:17 p.m.
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Of Domi's 9 goals this year, 4 were empty netters.

Chayka for the W.
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Jun. 16, 2018 at 5:26 p.m.
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Drafting Sergachev. Re-signing Price. Trading for Drouin. Trading for Weber. When was the last time this team made a non-sensible big decision?


He traded from a weakness to add to a strength in the Drouin-trade. You didn't need more wingers and that trade gutted your d even more. Weber is already the worse player from that trade and his contract is ridiculous. Price is overpaid and his contract is unmovable and will be bought out by year 5 if he keeps getting injured like this.
Jun. 16, 2018 at 8:15 p.m.
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Max Domi and nothing....? Wow. This a brutal trade.
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Jun. 16, 2018 at 10:17 p.m.
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Canadiens need centres...obviously. So when they have Chucky they can't decide if he's winger or centre, which probably hurt his development and then they trade him for Domi... who is also winger or maybe a centre. Groundhog Day.
Jun. 17, 2018 at 1:17 a.m.
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Montreal has not looked the same since CJ took over.

106GP w/ CJ: 45-47-14: 104 pts - (0.98 pts/gp)

140GP pre/CJ: 69- 57-14: 152 pts - (1.09 pts/gp)
 
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