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Ottawa side of Big 3 Team Trade

Created by: Jacketsman61
Initial Creation Date: Jun 18, 2018
Published: Jun 18, 2018 at 7:48
Team: 2018-19 Ottawa Senators
Team Explanation
Definitely a rebuild but restocked on picks and new young core building around Stone
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Jenner, Boone3$3,500,000
Murray, Ryan3$3,500,000
Stone, Mark8$8,250,000
Ceci, Cody3$3,250,000
Trades
OTT
  1. Niskanen, Matt
WSH
  1. Duchene, Matt
  2. Karlsson, Erik
OTT
  1. Milano, Sonny
  2. 2018 2nd round pick (CBJ)
  3. 2019 1st round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
Rights to Ryan Murray
Rights to Boone Jenner
CBJ
    OTT
    1. Kyrou, Jordan
    2. Berglund, Patrik
    STL
    1. Hoffman, Mike
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Dion Phaneuf: $1,750,000 (25%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2018
    OTT
    PIT
    CBJ
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    NYR
    2019
    CBJ
    OTT
    PIT
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    CGY
    2020
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    CBJ
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$79,000,000$68,139,999$0$2,320,000$10,860,001
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    Milano, Sonny
    $863,333
    LW
    RFA - 1
    Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
    $3,100,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Stone, Mark
    $8,250,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Jenner, Boone
    $3,500,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 4
    White, Colin
    $925,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Dzingel, Ryan
    $1,800,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Berglund, Patrik
    $3,850,000
    C, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Brown, Logan
    $863,333
    C
    RFA - 3
    Ryan, Bobby
    $7,250,000
    RW, LW
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 4
    Pääjärvi, Magnus
    $900,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Smith, Zack
    $3,250,000
    LW, C
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Gáborík, Marián
    $4,875,000
    RW
    UFA - 3
    Pyatt, Tom
    $1,100,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    Burrows, Alexandre
    $2,500,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Murray, Ryan
    $3,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Niskanen, Matt
    $5,750,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Anderson, Craig
    $4,750,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Chabot, Thomas
    $863,333
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Ceci, Cody
    $3,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Condon, Mike
    $2,400,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Borowiecki, Mark
    $1,200,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Wolanin, Christian
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Harpur, Ben
    $725,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    MacArthur, Clarke
    $4,650,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2

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    Jun 18, 2018 at 7:51
    #1
    Joined: Jan 2018
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    Not nearly enough for Ottawa, DUchene isn't getting traded either.
    Jun 18, 2018 at 7:54
    #2
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    Bad deal for Ottawa. Sens get a good Dman who will have fallen off a cliff by the time Ottawa is ready to compete again. also they get all the cast offs from CBJ. NO thanks
    Jun 18, 2018 at 8:10
    #3
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    Bad deal for Ottawa. Sens get a good Dman who will have fallen off a cliff by the time Ottawa is ready to compete again. also they get all the cast offs from CBJ. NO thanks


    Actually the players coming back for Ottawa make sense. Considering the dumpster fire Ottawa is right now, they are bringing in high character guys. Plus, I don’t think you give enough credit guys like Jenner and Murray who have shown glimpses of being the players that can be. Ottawa needs some decent talent in order to sell tickets. Niskanen may be a player moving towards the backend of his career but is very good player still and is not bogged down with a bad contract. He gives them time to develop prospects who will be more helpful when it is time to contend.
    Jun 18, 2018 at 8:38
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    Quoting: Jacketsman61
    Actually the players coming back for Ottawa make sense. Considering the dumpster fire Ottawa is right now, they are bringing in high character guys. Plus, I don’t think you give enough credit guys like Jenner and Murray who have shown glimpses of being the players that can be. Ottawa needs some decent talent in order to sell tickets. Niskanen may be a player moving towards the backend of his career but is very good player still and is not bogged down with a bad contract. He gives them time to develop prospects who will be more helpful when it is time to contend.


    I am not saying that any of the players are bad. I actually like Boone Jenner and Matt Niskanen a lot, and would love them on my team. But picks aside, none of those pieces give the sens what they need to get out of a Karlsson trade. They need to get prospects that are going to be top end players for Ottawa for the next decade. None of the players in trade can do that.

    Boone Jenner is a third line roleplayer who scored 30 goals once and will almost certainly never go it again. nice piece to have, but he's not substantially different than JGP who the sens already have.

    Ryan Murray is a 2nd/3rd pair LHD who is thoroughly unimpressive at every aspect of the position. While he would certainly make the sens team, the sens already have enough ho hum LHD, and Ryan murray is going to be making a lot more money than a combination of Claesson, Borowiecki, Harpur or Englund would.

    Niskanen is a good player. he might even be very good. On a Sens team with no EK65, he is the clear cut #1 RHD. I imagine having him next to Chabot would allow chabot to be the free wheeling maniac we've only dreamed of. And If he was 23, I would probably be fine with this trade. But he's 31, and I don't think it makes sense to bring in older players just to have them waste their last good years playing on a **** Sens team, only to have them retire or fall off before the sens are ready to contend again.

    thats my rationale anyway.
    Jun 18, 2018 at 9:18
    #5
    Joined: Jan 2018
    Posts: 38
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    Quoting: Jacketsman61
    Actually the players coming back for Ottawa make sense. Considering the dumpster fire Ottawa is right now, they are bringing in high character guys. Plus, I don’t think you give enough credit guys like Jenner and Murray who have shown glimpses of being the players that can be. Ottawa needs some decent talent in order to sell tickets. Niskanen may be a player moving towards the backend of his career but is very good player still and is not bogged down with a bad contract. He gives them time to develop prospects who will be more helpful when it is time to contend.



    Your sending the two of the three top Sens players out for no high end talent coming back, that's not close to good enough. Like the other poster said the players you've included are 2nd/3rd pairing d men and 3rd line forwards with a couple picks that won't be in the top 10. Erik Karlsson is a generational talent and Matt Duchene is a top 30 forward in the league.
    Jun 18, 2018 at 9:21
    #6
    CanEHian04
    Joined: Jun 2017
    Posts: 158
    Likes: 10
    That's very bad for the Senators. Very very bad
     
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