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Team: 2018-19 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 20, 2018
Published: Jun. 20, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
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2$700,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$650,000
1$650,000
3$800,000
8$6,250,000
1$4,000,000
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Ju, Hyung Lee
2$650,000
Dahlin, Rasmus
3$925,000
1$650,000
2$1,850,000
Trades
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BUF
  1. Coyle, Charlie
  2. Niederreiter, Nino
Additional Details:
The rights to Matt Dumba
MIN
  1. O'Reilly, Ryan
Additional Details:
The rights to Samson Reinhart
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3.
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2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$80,000,000$70,107,857$0$1,432,500$9,892,143
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$1,950,000$1,950,000
C
UFA - 1
$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 8
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
$1,850,000$1,850,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 4
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
$3,200,000$3,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$950,000$950,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
RW
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
LW
UFA - 2
$5,600,000$5,600,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000$925,000
$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 5
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 4
$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
$5,142,857$5,142,857
RD
UFA - 2
$697,500$697,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD
UFA - 2
$812,500$812,500
RD
UFA - 2

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Jun. 20, 2018 at 12:32 p.m.
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Niederreiter seems to be playing mostly on the left, although this website says that he plays on the right. I think Coyle would look good with Jack.

It's kind of like Anaheim is interested in Riisto, it would be interesting to see what deals you can pull off with ducklings.
Jun. 20, 2018 at 12:40 p.m.
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Columbus say yes!!!!!
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Jun. 20, 2018 at 12:40 p.m.
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Quoting: TheRiddler
Niederreiter seems to be playing mostly on the left, although this website says that he plays on the right. I think Coyle would look good with Jack.

It's kind of like Anaheim is interested in Riisto, it would be interesting to see what deals you can pull off with ducklings.


You are correct, Nino prefers the left but we have a lack of RW so Nino played RW briefly (he can play both fine, however).

I think this is interesting but I don't think the Wild would be willing to trade Dumba unless we are getting a serviceable top 4 RHD back for him. O'Reilly doesn't make a lot of sense for us with Koivu, they play very similar roles and I highly doubt anyone would be willing to take Koivu for what we'd ask for him. I think the value is pretty fair, Buffalo might have to add their 2nd round pick and Minny adds Buffalo's 3rd round pick to give back
Jun. 20, 2018 at 1:13 p.m.
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Quoting: arousedcat
You are correct, Nino prefers the left but we have a lack of RW so Nino played RW briefly (he can play both fine, however).

I think this is interesting but I don't think the Wild would be willing to trade Dumba unless we are getting a serviceable top 4 RHD back for him. O'Reilly doesn't make a lot of sense for us with Koivu, they play very similar roles and I highly doubt anyone would be willing to take Koivu for what we'd ask for him. I think the value is pretty fair, Buffalo might have to add their 2nd round pick and Minny adds Buffalo's 3rd round pick to give back
It was based on a rumor that they were gauging interest in Dumba Niederrieter and Zucker looking for a good center and top 6 RW I’ll definitely do the pick swap if it helps seal it
Jun. 20, 2018 at 1:21 p.m.
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It was based on a rumor that they were gauging interest in Dumba Niederrieter and Zucker looking for a good center and top 6 RW I’ll definitely do the pick swap if it helps seal it


We are definitely looking for a top 6 right shot C or winger (at least according to our reliable beat writer Mike Russo), but like I said if we trade Dumba we are going to want a D man to replace him coming back, or at the very least to keep a forward to deal to another team for a replacement. If we trade Dumba and don't get another D man our top 4 is Suter (who sustained a very rare injury at the end of the season and is a question mark for next season), Spurgeon, Brodin, and Prosser. Spurgeon and Brodin are great top 4 D men but Prosser is not good enough to play a top 4 pairing role. I just don't see us trading Dumba for O'Reilly unless we are making a separate trade for a RD and another trade involving Koivu or Staal (again, this is unlikely).
Jun. 20, 2018 at 1:32 p.m.
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Quoting: arousedcat
We are definitely looking for a top 6 right shot C or winger (at least according to our reliable beat writer Mike Russo), but like I said if we trade Dumba we are going to want a D man to replace him coming back, or at the very least to keep a forward to deal to another team for a replacement. If we trade Dumba and don't get another D man our top 4 is Suter (who sustained a very rare injury at the end of the season and is a question mark for next season), Spurgeon, Brodin, and Prosser. Spurgeon and Brodin are great top 4 D men but Prosser is not good enough to play a top 4 pairing role. I just don't see us trading Dumba for O'Reilly unless we are making a separate trade for a RD and another trade involving Koivu or Staal (again, this is unlikely).
maybe not so much, I could think of some Staal trades, or if they think they are better off up front after this trade they could go after Green. I’d throw in Bogosian(even with retained salary if it helps out) but most people think he’s negative value. Or Nelson, but most people don’t know anything about him so they automatically think he’s a scrub
Jun. 20, 2018 at 2:21 p.m.
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in the trade with the Minnesota buffalo you need to pay more or remove the Coyle / Niederreiter
Jun. 20, 2018 at 2:24 p.m.
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Quoting: FrodoBeggins
in the trade with the Minnesota buffalo you need to pay more or remove the Coyle / Niederreiter

Remove Coyle and Niederrieter? Or remove coyle or Niederrieter?
Jun. 20, 2018 at 6:21 p.m.
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maybe not so much, I could think of some Staal trades, or if they think they are better off up front after this trade they could go after Green. I’d throw in Bogosian(even with retained salary if it helps out) but most people think he’s negative value. Or Nelson, but most people don’t know anything about him so they automatically think he’s a scrub


I would be sick if we replaced Dumba with Green, that's a massive downgrade. John Carlson (the top UFA that would come remotely close to Dumba's production) is likely getting a comparable contract to OEL (like an 8x8) and I'd much rather we just bite the bullet on what Matt Dumba is asking. If Buffalo wants Dumba, Risto is going to have to be included. Personally I'm not the biggest Risto fan, he's decent but I'd rather have Dumba. If MIN want O'Reilly I think we are definitely going for Panarin or Kessel as well and trading Staal to say Anaheim for a package involving Silfverberg. O'Reilly would make a fantastic C for Panarin/Kessel. My only worry is that we'd give up all of our valuable assets to obtain O'Rielly an not be able to get Panarin/Kessel in the process. Would there be any way a trade for O'Reilly to the Wild happens that doesn't involve Dumba or Granlund?
Jun. 20, 2018 at 6:31 p.m.
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I would be sick if we replaced Dumba with Green, that's a massive downgrade. John Carlson (the top UFA that would come remotely close to Dumba's production) is likely getting a comparable contract to OEL (like an 8x8) and I'd much rather we just bite the bullet on what Matt Dumba is asking. If Buffalo wants Dumba, Risto is going to have to be included. Personally I'm not the biggest Risto fan, he's decent but I'd rather have Dumba. If MIN want O'Reilly I think we are definitely going for Panarin or Kessel as well and trading Staal to say Anaheim for a package involving Silfverberg. O'Reilly would make a fantastic C for Panarin/Kessel. My only worry is that we'd give up all of our valuable assets to obtain O'Rielly an not be able to get Panarin/Kessel in the process. Would there be any way a trade for O'Reilly to the Wild happens that doesn't involve Dumba or Granlund?
What if it was Zucker + Kaprizov for Panarin, you wouldnt need Kessel then too. You'd have Reinhart, who is going to produce more consistently for a longer time. IMO Kessel may only have a couple years left in him and who knows what point pace he will have without Malkin. And in the end you still have Granlund
Jun. 20, 2018 at 7:49 p.m.
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What if it was Zucker + Kaprizov for Panarin, you wouldnt need Kessel then too. You'd have Reinhart, who is going to produce more consistently for a longer time. IMO Kessel may only have a couple years left in him and who knows what point pace he will have without Malkin. And in the end you still have Granlund


I honestly don't think Zucker and Kaprizov would get us Panarin, Columbus would be looking for more. Besides, Kaprizov means more to the Wild than any other team. We have the connections to communicate with him and if we traded him its possible it could turn him away from coming to the NHL. I'm personally not a fan of getting Kessel, but he's still a top tier winger on the trade block. The only way I'd hope the Wild get O'Reilly is if we trade Staal. What would you say about something like Nino + Coyle for O'Reilly?
Jun. 20, 2018 at 8:24 p.m.
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I honestly don't think Zucker and Kaprizov would get us Panarin, Columbus would be looking for more. Besides, Kaprizov means more to the Wild than any other team. We have the connections to communicate with him and if we traded him its possible it could turn him away from coming to the NHL. I'm personally not a fan of getting Kessel, but he's still a top tier winger on the trade block. The only way I'd hope the Wild get O'Reilly is if we trade Staal. What would you say about something like Nino + Coyle for O'Reilly?

Nino and Coyle would be close, I think I'd want more and would also be motivated to take back Ennis if it got them something, I just dont know what. If Dumba is off the table, Spurgeon would be as well, and none of Minny's other RHD are upgrades over Nelson. I think Zucker Kaprizov would be a good deal for CBJ, Zucker has good numbers and fits into that core, and Kaprizov could be Panarin. If Minnesota gets sick of dealing with his situation (and if it turns him away from the NHL, thats not Minnesota's problem anymore).
 
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