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Sens 2019. Massive blockbuster with Columbus. Pt. 1

Created by: Bklentz21
Team: 2018-19 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 20, 2018
Published: Jun. 20, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$8,000,000
3$3,000,000
2$3,500,000
2$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,000,000
2$6,000,000
7$8,000,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Bittner, Paul
  2. Dubinsky, Brandon
  3. Milano, Sonny
  4. Panarin, Artemi
  5. Wennberg, Alexander
  6. 2020 1st round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
Murray
Jenner
2.
NSH
  1. Jenner, Boone
  2. Smith, Zack
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$80,000,000$81,276,666$0$1,610,000-$1,276,666
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
$4,900,000$4,900,000
C
UFA - 5
$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$3,100,000$3,100,000
C
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,100,000$1,100,000
C
UFA - 1
$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
UFA - 8
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
$4,750,000$4,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
$2,400,000$2,400,000
G
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$360,000$360K)
LD
UFA - 2
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$4,650,000$4,650,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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Jun. 20, 2018 at 8:43 p.m.
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Wow that is a terrible ripoff for us!
Jun. 20, 2018 at 8:45 p.m.
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Bklentz21
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Quoting: Sens4life
Wow that is a terrible ripoff for us!


What do you think would need to be added then. More picks another roster player? Prospects.
Jun. 20, 2018 at 8:54 p.m.
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Columbus is giving up way too much.
Jun. 20, 2018 at 9:04 p.m.
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Edited Jun. 20, 2018 at 9:23 p.m.
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Columbus is giving up way too much.



How. We receive Stone who preformed at a higher level than panarin if you spread it over an 82 game season. Also on a worse team. Also we’d be getting stone at a smaller cap hit. Id take anyone over Dubinsky at this point. Brown will become a better center than Wennberg. And Karlsson would give us ultimately i would say the best defense in the league. Also a very terrifying power play which killed us in playoffs.

I feel it gives us 2 star players like you were saying earlier while also helping full some slots for Ottawa.
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Jun. 20, 2018 at 9:29 p.m.
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Lol the most absurd thing here is the Senators spending close to the Cap Ceiling next year when it’s clear Melnyk wants to be barely above the cap floor...
Jun. 20, 2018 at 9:33 p.m.
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I mean some signings don’t need too happen. One of Carlson or JVR. I’d say JVR
Jun. 21, 2018 at 2:59 p.m.
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Edited Jun. 21, 2018 at 3:11 p.m.
OP, if the Sens were able to sign van Riemsdyk, Stastny and Carlson, then there is no need to make that trade, they would have a very good team

Ryan-Duchene-Stone
Van Riemsdyk-Stastny-Dzingel
Boedker-Pageau-White
Paajarvi-Smith-Pyatt
McCormick

And they would still have prospects like Brown, Batherson, Chlapik, Zadina/Tkachuk, Formenton, Gagné, etc.

Carlson-Karlsson
Chabot-Ceci
Wolanin-Harpur
Borowiecki

Quoting: Sens4life
Wow that is a terrible ripoff for us!


Quoting: Ajp_18
Columbus is giving up way too much.


Yet I am not doing that deal if I am Ottawa. It's the kind of trade that will never happen so it's hard to read, way too many players involved but here is why I would never do this. I'd much rather have quality than quantity.

Ottawa assets :

Erik Karlsson : no need for any presentations.

Mark Stone : average of 70 pts per 82 games in his first 4 full NHL seasons. A selke level Winger who is the best in the league for takeaways. Just turned 26 years old.

Logan Brown : high end prospect, has the ability, size and speed to develop into a true N.1 Center

Bobby Ryan (2.5 retained) : Ryan might be overpaid and injury-prone but at 4.75 per year, he is still a positive contributor. He had a 44 pts per 82 games pace last season, despite struggling with hand injuries again. That was just after having monster playoffs with 15 pts in 19 games (3 GWG, 2 in OT, and impactful overall play). It's a guy with high end skill that can still give you over 50 pts if just relatively healthy enough

Columbus assets :

Artemi Panarin : best Columbus asset by far here.

Alex Wennberg : 23 y/o, signed 5 more years at a reasonable 4.9 per year. Good 2nd line center.

Sonny Milano : potential top-6 forward but still unproven

2020 1st round pick (CBJ)

Ryan Murray : Decent #4 D-man

Boone Jenner : Good 3rd liner.

Brandon Dubinsky makes 5.85 for the next 3 years. I'd much rather have Bobby Ryan making 4.75 for the next 4 years.

Bittner : was a 2nd round pick 3 years ago but nothing indicates that he will be more than a 4th line forward in the NHL


Now let's divide the trades

1) Karlsson for Panarin. Is it fair 1 on 1 or Columbus needs to add an asset? I think so, let's say Ryan Murray.

2) Ryan (with retention) for Dubinsky and let's say just Bittner (even if I would never do that)

3) I wouldn't trade Brown for Wennberg 1 for 1. But let's say I would.

4) So that leaves Mark Stone for Milano, Jenner and a 1st. No thanks

Overall, I easily decline. None of those deals interest me. Maybe just Panarin + Murray for Karlsson if the Sens are FORCED to trade Karlsson (aka IF he wants to leave)
 
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