Quoting: SuprDave45
"Fantasy Summary
A sturdy two-way defenseman who supports the play well and could be capable of moderate contributions in the NHL."
This says first pair and better than Foote? Nooo, it says capable of moderate contributions...LMAO..great job though! I win!
Here's Foote's scouting report from the same site:
"Fantasy Summary
The large coveted right-shot defender, Foote is capable of becoming a top-pairing defenseman with a moderate-high offensive ceiling, and exceptional peripheral statistics."
There ya go, black and white...COVETED RIGHT SHOT DEFENDER...TOP-PAIR = I win!
Fowler isn't Lindholm's parter...Josh Manson is...before that it was Sammy Vatanen....know why? come ooon sure ya do...cause their RHD! LOL Nice try though
So Phily's D is good?? lol...who is the great RHDman on their squad? Right, there isn't one...as I said NO BETTER OPTION...and as I said QUALITY D core...Phily's D sucks! Nice try though
Shatty never played top pair when the Blue's D was good...he would only play on the PP...nice try though
Bottom line, youre grasping at straws and proving my point...but thank you...I win again!
No, Cal Foote is not a generational talent, but Libor Hajek is? Foote's projected as top pair dman! Again, on our roster only Miller has that potential (LHD lol)! You really need to get a grip on who the Rangers actually have on their squad, stop taking advice from Sam Rosen! Saying we already have 25 d men so I won't add Foote when he's rated better than all of the dmen on your squad is...just plain dumb! You can move any one of the d on your team later on...duh lol
I didn't say I wouldnt take Volkov or Raddysh in a vacuum...I said I wouldn't take them over Foote because their not top end talent compared to Foote who is. You keep buzzing over that FACT! And you still haven't found me anything that says either of them are top 6 talent. Let me save you some time...you won't, because they aren't! lol I win!
Their third line, filler players who might make the second line if their on a bad team. That's what you want to rebuild with? That's what you want to pass on a top pair RHD for???? Your smoking!
LOL WHAT!?!? Sure it matters, why bother having a draft then? That's the worst comment youve made yet! LMAO Yes, you can get lucky and catch lightning in a bottle, but compare it to how many players DON'T make it from the 2nd round on...and the overwhelming numbers speak for themselves! Derek Stepan is an elite talent? That's your example? Using an exception to try and establish a rule just doesn't work...stop lol. Nice try though!
Again, there's lots of other places to add forward prospects, and again I'd argue the Rangers already have more "sure thing" forwards than they do Dmen....which was made obvious by this years draft! Facts, I win again!
If you have a chance to get a blue chip top pair RHD, you do it all day! What is the value of top pair d men? Look at their contracts, look at what is traded away to get one of them! Their value is through the roof right now, comparable to maybe only 1C's...pay attention! lol Watch what Justin Faulk pulls in when he's traded! Look at what Doughty just signed for....lets see Raddysh get a contract like that lmao!!!
Ryan McDonagh isn't a forward lol. You said scoring depth being homegrown, we already have that anyway...this still doesn't add up to a reason not to trade for Foote. Nice try though...
And I was telling YOU, that you apparently haven't done any research yourself, because your opinion about the players doesn't come close to what the experts have already said...black and white...easy to find! Again, stop drinking the Rangers blue coolaid because you heard Joe Micheletti say something on air about how good Libor Hajek is! LOL
Quoting: SuprDave45
"Fantasy Summary
A sturdy two-way defenseman who supports the play well and could be capable of moderate contributions in the NHL."
This says first pair and better than Foote? Nooo, it says capable of moderate contributions...LMAO..great job though! I win!
Here's Foote's scouting report from the same site:
"Fantasy Summary
The large coveted right-shot defender, Foote is capable of becoming a top-pairing defenseman with a moderate-high offensive ceiling, and exceptional peripheral statistics."
There ya go, black and white...COVETED RIGHT SHOT DEFENDER...TOP-PAIR = I win!
Fowler isn't Lindholm's parter...Josh Manson is...before that it was Sammy Vatanen....know why? come ooon sure ya do...cause their RHD! LOL Nice try though
So Phily's D is good?? lol...who is the great RHDman on their squad? Right, there isn't one...as I said NO BETTER OPTION...and as I said QUALITY D core...Phily's D sucks! Nice try though
Shatty never played top pair when the Blue's D was good...he would only play on the PP...nice try though
Bottom line, youre grasping at straws and proving my point...but thank you...I win again!
No, Cal Foote is not a generational talent, but Libor Hajek is? Foote's projected as top pair dman! Again, on our roster only Miller has that potential (LHD lol)! You really need to get a grip on who the Rangers actually have on their squad, stop taking advice from Sam Rosen! Saying we already have 25 d men so I won't add Foote when he's rated better than all of the dmen on your squad is...just plain dumb! You can move any one of the d on your team later on...duh lol
I didn't say I wouldnt take Volkov or Raddysh in a vacuum...I said I wouldn't take them over Foote because their not top end talent compared to Foote who is. You keep buzzing over that FACT! And you still haven't found me anything that says either of them are top 6 talent. Let me save you some time...you won't, because they aren't! lol I win!
Their third line, filler players who might make the second line if their on a bad team. That's what you want to rebuild with? That's what you want to pass on a top pair RHD for???? Your smoking!
LOL WHAT!?!? Sure it matters, why bother having a draft then? That's the worst comment youve made yet! LMAO Yes, you can get lucky and catch lightning in a bottle, but compare it to how many players DON'T make it from the 2nd round on...and the overwhelming numbers speak for themselves! Derek Stepan is an elite talent? That's your example? Using an exception to try and establish a rule just doesn't work...stop lol. Nice try though!
Again, there's lots of other places to add forward prospects, and again I'd argue the Rangers already have more "sure thing" forwards than they do Dmen....which was made obvious by this years draft! Facts, I win again!
If you have a chance to get a blue chip top pair RHD, you do it all day! What is the value of top pair d men? Look at their contracts, look at what is traded away to get one of them! Their value is through the roof right now, comparable to maybe only 1C's...pay attention! lol Watch what Justin Faulk pulls in when he's traded! Look at what Doughty just signed for....lets see Raddysh get a contract like that lmao!!!
Ryan McDonagh isn't a forward lol. You said scoring depth being homegrown, we already have that anyway...this still doesn't add up to a reason not to trade for Foote. Nice try though...
And I was telling YOU, that you apparently haven't done any research yourself, because your opinion about the players doesn't come close to what the experts have already said...black and white...easy to find! Again, stop drinking the Rangers blue coolaid because you heard Joe Micheletti say something on air about how good Libor Hajek is! LOL
Holy crud dude we've gotta stop with these long replies.
When you say "I win" reminds me of when I was in elementary school whenever anyone won anything they'd yell "I win!" Like really dude ?? it's a fantasy website not TSN ??
Anyways back to the conversation(and I'll try to keep it short)
You starting off with "fantasy summary" is perfect because of the word fantasy. They're all prospects and no matter what they're projected to be. So why add more prospects to your strength vs add to your weakness(strength and weakness in numbers not quality). I mean Christ man people thought RNH was gonna be a stud and he just turned into a 2C.
Philly's D is so bad that they made the playoffs (3rd seed) despite playing in the best division in hockey...right
Right so when their D got good it was Parayko-Pietrangelo who were both, wait for it, righty's!
Dude I think Cal Foote is good n all, but top 2 dmen aren't just given away in a contract dump if that's what you're trying to pass on. Kids good n all, but in this cap dump trade I made in this AGM were not getting Cal Foote. Already said before that I'd take him if we could get him cheap. You don't have to sell me on him. Like if we sent Namestnikov back to TBL in this AGM and it got us Cal Foote + Volkov/Raddysh I'd be down, but right now as it stands we need forwards.
Don't recall Sam Rosen every mentioning 25 dmen...or the 18 from before...or dmen in general tbh
Ok here's a 2nd round example: Nikita Kucherov. Better than before? Clearly you didn't understand me. Yeah it doesn't matter where players are drafted, it matters where they end up. Nail Yakupov was projected first overall, taken first overall, and thought to be this top line guy. Does that really matter anymore? No, it doesn't, because he busted. Zetterberg was a 6th rounder. Does it matter? No, because he had a great career and every team passed up on him more than once. That's why draft number doesn't really matter to me. It's what they do with their career that matters. Before you wet yourself I'm not downplaying prospects being blatantly better than others, moreso saying that anyone can become a great player, regardless of where they're drafted.
Cal Foote blue chip prospect? i think he could be someday, but blue chip is more like Miro Heiskanen, Eeli Tolvanen, Elias Pettersson, Andrei Svechnikov, etc etc.
That's where I made my mistake. I should've said that I like my players homegrown instead of scoring depth(brainfart on my part) meaning it's nice to see our players homegrown with the team, not just scoring depth. Like how WPG has don't it mostly.
I'll trust the experts the day that Nail Yakupov is a PPG player ??
When did Micheletti mention Hajek? I think Hajek is a good player and prospect from watching him during the Memorial Cup and during the WJC.
Same reason I like Volkov(seen him many times live in the AHL) Raddysh I haven't seen live, but have seen some of his games on TV.
Tried to keep it short for ya