Quoting: HawksFan28
Wrong.....
The cap went up - that means salaries go up too, the only comparable to Matthews is McDavid, and no doubt Matthews will get McDavid money if not more. 12.5
Marner is going to want Draisaitl money and he will get it 8.5
Nylander is going to want 7.5 at least..
Look, JVR just got 7, are you saying Nylander at his age isn't worth more than that?
Toronto is going to be in cap hell with 40 million tied up in 4 players..
And the notion that these kids will just take a "discount" isn't going to happen - this is the first huge contract these kids are going to have to get paid and they're going to want as much as possible, because who knows, they could get injured 2 years down the road and they're no longer the player they once were - but at least they will be set for life... So you better believe they're going to get paid...
I mean at the very least Toronto is going to have to dump Kadri and Marleau..
The notion these guys are going to take lowball offers is just insanity when you look around the league and there are guys that aren't as good as them making more .....
Age, potential, production and comparisons is how you determine these salaries - not what you believe they are "subjectively" worth..
If Dubas wants to play hardball with Nylander all he has to do is look no further than Nik Ehlers' deal in Winnipeg, who is set to make $6M per for the next 7 years starting in 2018-2019. So if the Leafs were to lock up Nylander for $6M per for 7 years, both players would make 7.5% of the $79.5M salary cap in 2018-2019. What makes these two players comparable is nearly everything. So using your metrics of age, potential and production for comparison you will see that Nylander and his agent are not in a position to demand $7.5M.
Age:
Both are 22 years old and were drafted in the first round of the 2014 draft (8th and 9th overall) and both signed their ELCs at age 18.
Production:
In two full seasons Ehlers scored 54 goals, 70 assists and 124 points (25 on the PP) in 164 games for 0.76 points per game, playing 16:30 minutes a night on average. In the same two seasons Nylander scored 42 goals, 80 assists and 122 points (38 on the PP) in 163 games for 0.75 points per game, playing 16:30 minutes a night on average. Both players have played with elite line-mates at both 5v5 and on the powerplay.
Potential:
Both players have the potential to be top line scoring wingers (which they already are). So judging by their past performance it is easy to project that both players will consistently score within the 60-70 point range over the course of a full season.
Thus, since many of the contracts in the league are decided by comparable player contracts, a precedent has already been set that a winger of Nylander's caliber, at his age, is objectively worth $6M per year. What statistics can his agent bring to the table that would merit his client being paid more? Maybe David Pastrnaks contract? lets see.
Pastrnak is also 22 years old and signed his ELC at 18.
In the same two full seasons, he has scored 69 goals, 81 assists, and 150 points (50 on the PP) in 157 games for 0.96 points per game. Making it likely that he gets 70-80 points a year in a full season.
He makes $6.6M per season which started in 2017-2018 meaning he made 8.8% of the $75M salary cap, which for Nylander would only come out to $6.9M per year. However, based on production and potential it does not appear that he deserves as much as Pastrnak.