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How the Lightning Could Manage Karlsson

Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 6, 2018
Published: Jul. 7, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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New Jersey has over $20 million of cap space and should have no problem taking on Callahan's cap for two years. They get a promising prospect who is competitive to make their roster immediately, a draft pick, and a veteran leader. The Devils aren't a complete mess and Callahan originally played in the New York area, so New Jersey shouldn't be on his no trade list.

The Avalanche get much needed depth scoring, in the form of both J.T. Miller (a 20 goal scorer, even on the Rangers) and Barre-Boutlet, who plays a similar game to Yanni Gourde. I'm not sure if they'd actually give up a promising prospect like that knowing that the Lightning have little leverage, but other teams would take J.T. Miller without Barre-Boutlet and it makes sense for the Avalanche.

Perhaps I'm undervaluing Karlsson here, but you can exchange Sergachev for Foote if you want, and/or add in draft picks and prospects such as Somppi. I don't think the Senators will get any more than that from anyone. The point of this was to see if they could make the cap work, not to find a fair trade deal, though, and this is how I see the trade ending up.

All of these teams know the Lightning are desperate, but J.T. Miller is not exactly a cap dump and he provides much needed depth scoring. Teams would take him without any prospect, and the addition of a prospect should make it appealing enough that the Avalanche give someone who seems NHL-caliber at some point, such as Timmins or Meloche. If not, the Lightning have Cernak to call up anyway. The Devils get Volkov and a draft pick for two years of a contract they can afford, so even though the Lightning have their hands tied, they shouldn't want that offer to go to waste. And afterwards they should have enough to deal with a Karlsson trade.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$6,000,000
8$10,000,000
3$1,200,000
3$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,500,000
8$10,000,000
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  1. 2019 6th round pick (NJD)
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  1. Callahan, Ryan
  2. Volkov, Alexander
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (TBL)
2.
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  1. Barré-Boulet, Alex
  2. Miller, J.T.
  3. 2020 4th round pick (TBL)
  4. 2022 1st round pick (TBL)
3.
TBL
    1. Erik Karlsson
    OTT
    1. Foote, Cal
    2. Katchouk, Boris
    3. 2020 1st round pick (TBL)
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    4. Jake Dotchin
    5. 2019 3rd round pick (becomes 2nd if the Lightning win the Cup)
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    2022
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    2019
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$82,000,000$81,929,164$0$1,215,000$70,836

    Roster

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    $5,300,000$5,300,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    $8,500,000$8,500,000
    LW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    $10,000,000$10,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 8
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 6
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 3
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    RW, C, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    $4,450,000$4,450,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    $728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
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    UFA - 1
    $833,333$833,333
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    RFA - 2
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    $833,333$833,333
    C
    UFA - 1
    $728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    $7,875,000$7,875,000
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    NMC
    UFA - 6
    $10,000,000$10,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 8
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    $6,750,000$6,750,000
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    NTC
    UFA - 7
    $894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    $1,150,000$1,150,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    $853,333$853,333
    RD
    UFA - 1
    $1,200,000$1,200,000
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    Jul. 7, 2018 at 12:03 a.m.
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    Going to lose Sergachev or Vasilevskiy as you won’t be able to afford them both
    Jul. 7, 2018 at 12:31 a.m.
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    You're still 3 players short of a roster and you'll have no money to sign Vas of Sergachev
    Jul. 7, 2018 at 12:34 a.m.
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    Quoting: Kosterjr
    Going to lose Sergachev or Vasilevskiy as you won’t be able to afford them both


    There's an expansion draft next summer for Seattle, which is Tyler Johnson's home town. The hope would be that Yzerman convinces him to waive his NTC and leaves him exposed, and Seattle takes him (which would make sense, as he would be by far their most talented forward available). Otherwise, other teams that need depth scoring should be willing to take him - he's a very capable #2 center with playoff experience who can also play wing. Then, they free $5,000,000, they get another $2,000,000 when Carle's buyout comes off, and if the cap goes up by about $2,000,000, they have almost $13.5 million for both of them. I think Vasilevskiy gets $6,500,000 and Sergachev gets $5,000,000 on a bridge deal. They would then look to dump Killorn, and they can give up mid-draft picks, or, if need be, Somppi (one of the best in the QMJHL who should definitely be able to play on the NHL level). That leaves them with $9.5 million for Cirelli, Stephens, Joseph, and Meloche. Cirelli gets $4,000,000, Meloche gets $3,000,000 (or is replaced with someone worth that amount), and Stephens and Joseph are each signed short-term for $1,200,000 to prove that they can be consistently good before they get raises. The next season, the salary cap goes up more because of added revenue from Seattle, and they have some breathing room for contract expiries.
    Jul. 7, 2018 at 12:40 a.m.
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    You're still 3 players short of a roster and you'll have no money to sign Vas of Sergachev


    According to the NHL rules, a roster is to have at least 20 players and no more than 23. So, we have 20. If anyone gets injured, they are put on LTIR and we get cap relief on and can call someone up from the minor league. I explained how to re-sign Vasilevskiy and Sergachev in my post above.
    Jul. 7, 2018 at 12:56 a.m.
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    Quoting: I_Know_Nothing_About_Hockey_Or_Any_Sport2
    According to the NHL rules, a roster is to have at least 20 players and no more than 23. So, we have 20. If anyone gets injured, they are put on LTIR and we get cap relief on and can call someone up from the minor league. I explained how to re-sign Vasilevskiy and Sergachev in my post above.


    Yes, but can you tell me a team that actually had a 20 man roster last year??? It doesn't happen. And what happens if Vasilevsky has an amazing season next year? Maybe he's only worth 6.5... But what if he's worth 8? Even 9? You think Johnson will waive his full NTC to leave one of the best teams in the NHL? What happens if Seattle says, "we could take Johnson, but this is one of the most skilled teams in the league, theres a better player available". I like your train of thought, I really do, but it just seems too implausible for me, sorry.
    Jul. 7, 2018 at 1:14 a.m.
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    Edited Jul. 7, 2018 at 1:23 a.m.
    Quoting: mk458
    Yes, but can you tell me a team that actually had a 20 man roster last year??? It doesn't happen. And what happens if Vasilevsky has an amazing season next year? Maybe he's only worth 6.5... But what if he's worth 8? Even 9? You think Johnson will waive his full NTC to leave one of the best teams in the NHL? What happens if Seattle says, "we could take Johnson, but this is one of the most skilled teams in the league, theres a better player available". I like your train of thought, I really do, but it just seems too implausible for me, sorry.


    I mean, you may be right. This plan depends on a lot of things going exactly right. A 20 man roster is theoretically doable, but far from ideal. Vasilevskiy's value could be higher than people think it is now after next season. If Seattle refuses to take Johnson (now that I look at it again, either Karlsson or Sergachev would have to be available, which doesn't bode well for the Lightning), even with prospects or picks offered in addition, and/or Johnson refuses to waive his NTC to go to his home town because he's on a Cup contending team, they're in huge trouble. But, if something doesn't work out for them, they can trade Karlsson. Several teams should be interested in Karlsson signed long-term for $10,000,000, and they could easily get a pretty big package of prospects and/or a slightly less talented replacement for him and still win the Cup without surprising anybody. Or, they can keep managing well pushed against the cap. If anyone can do it, it would be Yzerman. If Johnson doesn't seem interested in Seattle, don't re-sign Sergachev and/or Cirelli. If Vasilevskiy's worth too much, it would be because he improved from an already Vezina-caliber effort, and in that case they can afford to get rid of someone and contend for a Cup.

    There's certainly a reason that no team has contended for a Cup for more than a few seasons. The only way you contend is if either everyone on your team takes a huge discount (which you shouldn't count on) or if you get lucky with your contracts and have people making less money than they're worth, in which case you only have until their contract expires and they demand more than you can afford. It's been 35 years since someone won three Cups in a row, and it's never happened in the salary cap era. The Blackhawks are the closest thing we've had to a dynasty, and they could only manage to contend for about six years (and that included multiple first round exits between each Cup win). Now, they're in cap hell and are questionable for the playoffs. If everything goes right, Yzerman can keep this going for quite a few years, but yes, something can easily go wrong and it can fall apart.
    Jul. 7, 2018 at 2:26 a.m.
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    Didn't Miller just sign an extension? That would be pretty underhanded to trade him away right after that unless it was discussed prior.
    Jul. 7, 2018 at 1:25 p.m.
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    Didn't Miller just sign an extension? That would be pretty underhanded to trade him away right after that, unless it was discussed prior.


    This is two seasons away. The trades with Ottawa and New Jersey would have to be this offseason, but they could wait on the J.T. Miller trade until next offseason, since they would probably have enough cap room until then.
     
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