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Toronto Maple Leafs signed Frédérik Gauthier (2 Years / $675,000 AAV)

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Jul 11 at 2:50 PM
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Frédérik Gauthier has signed a new contract with the Toronto Maple Leafs.
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LENGTH: 2 YEARS
EXPIRY STATUS: RFA
SIGNING TEAM: Toronto Maple Leafs
VALUE: $1,350,000
C.H.% : 0.85
SIGNING DATE: July 11, 2018
SEASONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY
2018-19$675,000$675,000$0$0$650,000$650,000$100,000
2019-20$675,000$675,000$0$0$700,000$700,000$100,000
TOTAL$1,350,000$1,350,000$0$0$1,350,000$1,350,000$200,000
Jul 11 at 4:48 PM
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Y tho? Why give a two-year, two-way deal to a guy that can't crack 20 points in the AHL?
Jul 11 at 6:38 PM
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Good depth signing for Marlies.
Jul 11 at 7:01 PM
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Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
Y tho? Why give a two-year, two-way deal to a guy that can't crack 20 points in the AHL?


a) because they can. just 2 more RFAs, few roster spots left and just at 45 contracts.
b) I've read it before, I think in the parting letter of Marty St.Louis on the players tribune: as a 1st round pick, you're given more chances than other players. the organization spent ressources on you to develop you, maybe they had a plan for you, and if it doesn't work out, they're much more often committed to give you another chance than if you'd be an undrafted free agent AHL signing (or even guys like Clendening etc). in this case it's not a loss for the leafs to keep him around.
Jul 12 at 11:33 AM
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You need fourth liners in the AHL too. The two way aspect is just so they can call him up now and again, as the Leafs aren't particularly deep in 4th line centers. They would rather bring him up to sit in the press box or play 8-9 minutes than guys who they are actually developing with bigger roles on the Marlies.
Jul 12 at 3:28 PM
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Quoting: Danny12357
You need fourth liners in the AHL too. The two way aspect is just so they can call him up now and again, as the Leafs aren't particularly deep in 4th line centers. They would rather bring him up to sit in the press box or play 8-9 minutes than guys who they are actually developing with bigger roles on the Marlies.


Quoting: Danny12357
You need fourth liners in the AHL too. The two way aspect is just so they can call him up now and again, as the Leafs aren't particularly deep in 4th line centers. They would rather bring him up to sit in the press box or play 8-9 minutes than guys who they are actually developing with bigger roles on the Marlies.


He is only 23 years old too

And speaking of 4th line center depth Babcock speaks highly of Par Lindholm. I saw him speaking when he was asked about the center who left for the KHL
Miro Altonen who got some consideration to make the team last year. His answer to the Question how did he feel losing Altonen his answer was
" Ya ! But we got Lindholm. It was just the way he said it. Plus they gave Lindholm 925K with 850 in bonuses. He could cap out at 1.775
Jul 12 at 11:16 PM
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Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
Y tho? Why give a two-year, two-way deal to a guy that can't crack 20 points in the AHL?


Why are you acting like they couldn't just give this contract away to any team they want at any time they want?

If you have a good AHL team you will take this contract with no questions asked.

Who wouldn't want the GOAT on their team?
Jul 13 at 10:20 AM
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Quoting: drewjenks
Why are you acting like they couldn't just give this contract away to any team they want at any time they want?

If you have a good AHL team you will take this contract with no questions asked.

Who wouldn't want the GOAT on their team?


Because there are such things as AHL-only contracts, which would have made more sense in this case because Gauthier likely will not, or should not, play in the NHL.
Jul 13 at 10:27 AM
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Most likely won't be playing with the Leafs this year except to fill in for injuries perhaps. Nice player for the Marlies though.
Jul 13 at 8:57 PM
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Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
Because there are such things as AHL-only contracts, which would have made more sense in this case because Gauthier likely will not, or should not, play in the NHL.


You lose your ownership of a players rights when you sign them to AHL deals.

So you'd prefer to give him away....instead of trading him for a late pick if/when we ever run out of contract slots? (he's not gonna count against the cap either way).

They're taking applications in Montreal....toss one in !
Jul 15 at 12:45 PM
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Quoting: drewjenks
You lose your ownership of a players rights when you sign them to AHL deals.

So you'd prefer to give him away....instead of trading him for a late pick if/when we ever run out of contract slots? (he's not gonna count against the cap either way).

They're taking applications in Montreal....toss one in !


You don't lose ownership of player rights. Toronto would still have priority over other teams if they did decide to sign him to an NHL deal.
Jul 15 at 2:22 PM
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Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
You don't lose ownership of player rights. Toronto would still have priority over other teams if they did decide to sign him to an NHL deal.


So if someone signs Gauthier to a $1,500,000 cap-hit in January.....and we can't match it.....would we lose Gauthier for nothing? (The answer is yes).

We wouldn't get any draft picks as compensation like normal offer sheets.

Why take the risk for no reason when he costs $675,000 on a 2-way deal with no cap hit in the AHL?

We may as well just keep him signed & trade him for a late pick if the Leafs run out of contract slots....we still have 4 ATM with only Nylander to sign.
 
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