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3-Team Trade PIT/VGK/MTL

Created by: Arom5477
Team: 2018-19 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 11, 2018
Published: Jul. 11, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
VGK Gets: A Replacement for Perron and Neal with Kessel (and whatever they get from the Haula Trade)

MTL Gets: Their MUCH NEEDED center depth. After this, MTL would have Drouin, Haula, Bellerive, and Kotkaniemi. That’s pretty good...

PIT Gets: More LW impact and a team leader. A good RW. And a VGK 1st that will make for a good draft day for PIT (Two 1sts in a proclaimed deep draft). And cap space for a Guentzel (and Brassard maybe?) resign.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,750,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Tuch, Alex
  2. 2019 1st round pick (VGK)
Additional Details:
VGK Agrees to Trade Erik Haula to MTL
2.
PIT
  1. Pacioretty, Max
Additional Details:
Max Pacioretty Agrees to a Contract Extension of $7M x 6 years. Full NTC for first four years of contract, then M-NTC for last two.
MTL
  1. Bellerive, Jordy
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (PIT)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$73,017,392$0$557,500$6,482,608
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$734,167$734,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 5
$1,875,000$1,875,000
LW
UFA - 1
$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$4,050,000$4,050,000
LW
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
$650,000$650,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 5
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
$3,750,000$3,750,000
G
UFA - 2
$3,333,225$3,333,225
LD
UFA - 4
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 1
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 5
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
$650,000$650,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Jul. 11, 2018 at 3:43 p.m.
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Good deals, very interesting. But I'm not sure VGK would accept that deal as a Pens fan that would be great if it happened but Vegas wouldn't agree to that. Good job though.
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Jul. 11, 2018 at 3:51 p.m.
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Haula isn't a center so those trades don't help them.

EDIT: Actually it looks like he did play center last season. For some reason I thought he was a winger.
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Jul. 11, 2018 at 4:07 p.m.
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Idk if MTL takes Haul, Bellerive and a 2nd for Pacches
Jul. 11, 2018 at 4:19 p.m.
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Idk if MTL takes Haul, Bellerive and a 2nd for Pacches


If they don’t, then Bergevin definitely proves he has issues.
Jul. 11, 2018 at 4:22 p.m.
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This is an interesting idea that makes a good case for how each team could benefit.

Unlike with the 50 trades posted every day involving Brassard, the Pens keep their center depth. They also get better on the left wing long-term while giving Daniel Sprong a top six spot where he can find success. Right wing depth is excellent with the addition of Tuch.
Jul. 11, 2018 at 4:22 p.m.
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If they don’t, then Bergevin definitely proves he has issues.


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If they don’t, then Bergevin definitely proves he has issues.


A guy who's only broken 40 points once in his career and is already 27 + a 2nd round pick for a top 10 LW?
Jul. 11, 2018 at 4:32 p.m.
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Quoting: datools
A guy who's only broken 40 points once in his career and is already 27 + a 2nd round pick for a top 10 LW?


Why do people conveniently forget/leave out the fact that this winger has an expiring contract?
Jul. 11, 2018 at 4:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Chigurrhh
Why do people conveniently forget/leave out the fact that this winger has an expiring contract?


I think it's implied at this point that he works out an extension before being moved for MTL to get max return
Jul. 11, 2018 at 4:34 p.m.
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Quoting: datools
A guy who's only broken 40 points once in his career and is already 27 + a 2nd round pick for a top 10 LW?


You conveniently forgot the blue chip center prospect that plays like a 1st round pick...
Jul. 11, 2018 at 4:41 p.m.
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You conveniently forgot the blue chip center prospect that plays like a 1st round pick...


Good usage of the word conveniently. IMO I don't think Montreal moves Pacciorety without getting a reliable top 6 center or a first. If you look at Montreal's prospects, they're inundated with center prospects. https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/pages/montreal-canadiens-organizational-depth-chart
Jul. 11, 2018 at 5:04 p.m.
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Quoting: datools
I think it's implied at this point that he works out an extension before being moved for MTL to get max return


That doesn’t raise his value much. That’s not the same as a roster player being traded with term. Montreal doesn’t have the option of keeping him. They have made it clear they are not extending the guy. If anything, this limits the teams that he can be traded to and lowers his value.

Montreal doesn’t have much leverage here. He also is coming off a bad season and plays winger. This value isn’t close to what you seem to think.
Jul. 11, 2018 at 5:07 p.m.
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Trade is declined as Patches won’t agree to an extension
Jul. 11, 2018 at 5:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Chigurrhh
That doesn’t raise his value much. That’s not the same as a roster player being traded with term. Montreal doesn’t have the option of keeping him. They have made it clear they are not extending the guy. If anything, this limits the teams that he can be traded to and lowers his value.

Montreal doesn’t have much leverage here. He also is coming off a bad season and plays winger. This value isn’t close to what you seem to think.


Paccioretty agreeing to an extension pre-trade does not lower his value, c'mon. A bad season does not make a perennial 30 goal scorer that much less valuable. Montreal has all the leverage, they have 9 months to trade one of the best wingers in the game to the highest bidding team? You don't think a team would be willing to trade a 2nd line C for a first line wing?
Jul. 11, 2018 at 5:33 p.m.
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Quoting: datools
Paccioretty agreeing to an extension pre-trade does not lower his value, c'mon. A bad season does not make a perennial 30 goal scorer that much less valuable. Montreal has all the leverage, they have 9 months to trade one of the best wingers in the game to the highest bidding team? You don't think a team would be willing to trade a 2nd line C for a first line wing?


It's not "the highest bidding team". You are missing the point that this would only work with a team Paccioretty agrees to sign with. This gives him control over where he goes, lowers the amount of teams he can be traded to, and lowers his value. It's not that complicated.

" You don't think a team would be willing to trade a 2nd line C for a first line wing?"

Certainly not when that winger has an expiring contract.
Jul. 11, 2018 at 5:49 p.m.
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I'd be blown away if Montreal didn't already have an offer for a 3C (Haula) and 2nd and a prospect. Clearly they're trying to get more with a team he would extend on.
Jul. 11, 2018 at 6:06 p.m.
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Make it brassard to montreal instead of kessel to VGK. We get haula and patches while vegas gets prospects and picks.
Jul. 11, 2018 at 11:11 p.m.
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Like the idea of the trades. Don’t like The extension for Max. 6yrs @ 7 mil for a 31 yr old after the Jack Johnson contract really seems like a bad call to me.
Jul. 11, 2018 at 11:32 p.m.
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Like the idea of the trades. Don’t like The extension for Max. 6yrs @ 7 mil for a 31 yr old after the Jack Johnson contract really seems like a bad call to me.


He's 29.
Jul. 12, 2018 at 1:03 a.m.
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one of the few trade proposal involving the pens getting pacioretty that isn't a obvious huge overpay, if you can get him to sign for what kessel is signed for right now than I think the deal is pretty good and still fair(to all 3 sides). That is the key to it though, him signing the extension.
Jul. 12, 2018 at 12:46 p.m.
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I wouldnt hate this,
I think vegas gets the best end of the deal. But it would balance out the pens glut at RW
 
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