You really think Paccioretty is only worth Anisimov ?? Please explain that trade

why would Carolina do that?? Skinner> Saad Faulk > Murphy. and they add a 3rd

Thanks for the post.

That was actually an error. I meant to modify the trade a bit. But Anisimov's term is a factor in the trade. He has proven that he can play with high end W's and produce or a be a catalyst of production for other high end forwards. MTL also needs C's and he fills that void. Pacioretty is a UFA at the end of the year, so there is some risk involved with trading for him.

Thoughts?

Thanks for the post.

My thoughts on the trade are there have been reports that CAR are looking to move Skinner and Faulk and CAR's owner has already proven that he is going to be stubborn on paying his players (i.e. Hannifin and Lindholm). Both Skinner and Murphy have term on their contract, so they are appealing. Skinner is a UFA at the end of the season and Faulk is a UFA in '20.

The 3rd round pick might not be in the cards. CHI might actually have to throw in a pic or another prospect after taking a second look at it.

What are your thoughts?

Carolina would not want Connor Murphy

Just look at our Defense, he doesn't fit in

That's a valid argument. CAR is pretty set on the right side of their back end. It still doesn't hurt to have depth on the back end, especially with Murphy's experience, Faulk no longer being on the roster and Fleury not having a full season under his belt. If they added Murphy as a possible 5-6 D , their D core would be pretty bulletproof.

What would you suggest? Who would you throw in the trade to make this a more balanced deal?

If you want Faulk and Skinner,
Probably Saad and Anisimov and maybe a pick

Skinner has a little more upside than Saad but Saad has beeter Term and Cost

If Skinner is willing to Sign an extension in CHI (maybe 7x7, similar to E.Kane) it's probably close 1 for 1, as I expect a bounce back season for Saad and Skinner
Faulk has a little more value than Anisimov, and given the Skinner ext. i would want a 2nd rd pick

So.........

Skinner (with Ext. between 6.5 or 7) and Faulk for
Saad, Anisimov, and a 2nd

I think that's fair. It put's a little kink in my other moves with Pac to get Barrie haha. But I think it would be a smart move for CHI to add a RHD like Faulk and extend a smart and skilled W like Skinner.

None of these are good or realistic??

The Hawks should not give up Saad for Skinner. If the Hawks only care about getting a top 6 offensive player on a contract that expires 2018-19, then they would have better off keeping Panarin. And Saad technically has a higher defensive impact statistically than Faulk and Carolina doesn't want/need Murphy lbr. If Skinner doesn't work out, it'd be super hard to trade him at the TDL because of his NMC. I like Skinner a lot but he's not great defensively and Faulk is just so-so there, so you've made the team weaker defensively with this trade, though probably better offensively.

If the Hawks could get Pacioretty for that deal (they couldn't), why wouldn't they just keep him and Saad as their 1-2 LW for the season instead of going for Skinner? Patches is older but he's cheaper and could be flipped more easily as he has no NMC.

If Colorado would give up Barrie for Patches, why wouldn't Montreal just do that deal themselves since they need defensemen just as much as they need centers?

Seabrook wouldn't waive his NMC to Buffalo.

How is Skinner better than Saad? Outside of last season, Saad has pretty much been a 50+ point player every season prorated and Skinner is similar with some consistently issues as well. The difference is that Skinner gets more points via goals and Saad is a much much better player defensively. They're the same age, but Saad's contract is better value as he's signed for 3 more seasons while Skinner will want E.Kane/JVR money in a year.

I live in the south and get the Canes feed so I watch them a lot - Skinner is one of my favorite players to watch and would love him on the Hawks, but it's objectively not true that Skinner is better than Saad.