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Winnipeg Jets signed Jacob Trouba (1 Year / $5,500,000 AAV)

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Jul. 23, 2018 at 11:31 a.m.
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The thing is Trouba has not been worth what he's been asking over the years. The first time he was asking for around $5 million a year and he was not worth it. This time he was asking for around $7 million a year and he's not worth that either. He's overvaluing himself. Plus add in the fact that he can't stay healthy over a full season.


If they had of paid him the $5 mil initially (everyone knew he would be worth that now) then they could have locked him up long term at a discount.
Jul. 23, 2018 at 7:22 p.m.
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When the club continues to refuse to pay a player his worth, it is the clubs fault.

It depends what the player thinks he's worth.

- If Trouba would have taken $6,250,000 or less for a few years....than I blame the Jets.
- If Trouba was demanding $7,000,000 or more for a few years....than I blame Trouba.
- Anything in between is a dicey situation...and if he just want's to leave regardless...than WTF can ya do besides trade em.

BTW I'm only talking about this year - they obviously would have been better off if they signed him with term a couple years ago.
Jul. 24, 2018 at 12:09 p.m.
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It depends what the player thinks he's worth.

- If Trouba would have taken $6,250,000 or less for a few years....than I blame the Jets.
- If Trouba was demanding $7,000,000 or more for a few years....than I blame Trouba.
- Anything in between is a dicey situation...and if he just want's to leave regardless...than WTF can ya do besides trade em.

BTW I'm only talking about this year - they obviously would have been better off if they signed him with term a couple years ago.


How are you "only talking about this year" when your suggestions literally all read "for a few years"

Anyways the reality here is the arbitrator changed the benchmark of what 24 year old RFA's get paid. NO ONE comparable to Trouba has ever received anywhere near $5.5 million for a single year.

Calvin Dehaan one year deal last season was $3.3 Million, Michael Stone's one year deal $4 million. Chevy $4 million offer was not a low ball. It was the market.

The only age relevant comparables receiving $5.5 million or more all signed for 8 years or more. Ekman-Larsson, Hedman, Ekblad and Fowler. Trouba's numbers aren't remotely in these players class. He's also 2 years younger than everyone mentioned other than Ekblad. Those deals are purchased 6 UFA years, not a single RFA year.

Players within Trouba's classs would include Barrie, Schultz & Parayko. They all got $5.5 million deals...for 3-5 year terms.

This arbitration case was stinking load of horse hockey with the Jets HUGE losers. Whoever the unnamed arbitrator deserves coal in his stocking come Christmas time.
Jul. 24, 2018 at 4:13 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
If they had of paid him the $5 mil initially (everyone knew he would be worth that now) then they could have locked him up long term at a discount.


The Jets offered him 5.5M x 6 years back in 2016. Trouba and KO refused to negotiate a long-term deal and had the trade request using his usage as the scapegoat excuse.
Jul. 24, 2018 at 4:23 p.m.
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The Jets offered him 5.5M x 6 years back in 2016. Trouba and KO refused to negotiate a long-term deal and had the trade request using his usage as the scapegoat excuse.


Source stating the Jets offered him that much?
Jul. 24, 2018 at 5:00 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Source stating the Jets offered him that much?


Should clarify, it was said that is what they were reported to have offered. take it fwiw

Gary Lawless article where Dreger says the Jets are offering 5.5M x 6 https://www.tsn.ca/the-tangled-path-ahead-for-trouba-jets-1.594202
Recent article that brings it up again https://thehockeywriters.com/winnipeg-jets-trouba-carlson-contract/
Jul. 24, 2018 at 8:20 p.m.
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Quoting: JamesFalk
How are you "only talking about this year" when your suggestions literally all read "for a few years"

Anyways the reality here is the arbitrator changed the benchmark of what 24 year old RFA's get paid. NO ONE comparable to Trouba has ever received anywhere near $5.5 million for a single year.

Calvin Dehaan one year deal last season was $3.3 Million, Michael Stone's one year deal $4 million. Chevy $4 million offer was not a low ball. It was the market.

The only age relevant comparables receiving $5.5 million or more all signed for 8 years or more. Ekman-Larsson, Hedman, Ekblad and Fowler. Trouba's numbers aren't remotely in these players class. He's also 2 years younger than everyone mentioned other than Ekblad. Those deals are purchased 6 UFA years, not a single RFA year.

Players within Trouba's classs would include Barrie, Schultz & Parayko. They all got $5.5 million deals...for 3-5 year terms.

This arbitration case was stinking load of horse hockey with the Jets HUGE losers. Whoever the unnamed arbitrator deserves coal in his stocking come Christmas time.


Unbiased opinion - Nice.
Jul. 25, 2018 at 12:48 a.m.
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Quoting: JamesFalk
How are you "only talking about this year" when your suggestions literally all read "for a few years"

Anyways the reality here is the arbitrator changed the benchmark of what 24 year old RFA's get paid. NO ONE comparable to Trouba has ever received anywhere near $5.5 million for a single year.

Calvin Dehaan one year deal last season was $3.3 Million, Michael Stone's one year deal $4 million. Chevy $4 million offer was not a low ball. It was the market.

The only age relevant comparables receiving $5.5 million or more all signed for 8 years or more. Ekman-Larsson, Hedman, Ekblad and Fowler. Trouba's numbers aren't remotely in these players class. He's also 2 years younger than everyone mentioned other than Ekblad. Those deals are purchased 6 UFA years, not a single RFA year.

Players within Trouba's classs would include Barrie, Schultz & Parayko. They all got $5.5 million deals...for 3-5 year terms.

This arbitration case was stinking load of horse hockey with the Jets HUGE losers. Whoever the unnamed arbitrator deserves coal in his stocking come Christmas time.


When I said "for a few years" I was referring to the term of the contract that he could have signed with the team this year.

Nothing to do with the past.
 
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