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Let's all pretend this is possible, OK? Nylander+Draisaitl+Trouba

Created by: Cjeths
Team: 2018-19 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 23, 2018
Published: Jul. 23, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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I may have accidentally created a playoff team ?‍♂️

Ok so friendly reminder this is all for fun(it's in the title), but as always is open to constructive criticism.

Wanna hear thoughts from all fans involved in these trades.

Preferably counter offers instead of: "ABSOLUTELY NOT I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS **************..." etc etc

Next years $$$ situation:

If Smith has a comeback year, trade him, can't afford to keep him amongst other.

If he stinks again, buy him out, we're gonna need the $$$.

Cap could rise again close to $85 mil giving the NYR enough to sign everyone and maybe even an FA???
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$5,000,000
7$4,500,000
3$3,250,000
8$7,000,000
Trades
1.
NYR
    Rights to William Nylander

    Could take back Zaitsev's contract if it's as bad as some fans suggest. Or Hortons $$
    TOR
    1. Deangelo, Anthony
    2. Spooner, Ryan
    3. 2019 2nd round pick (NYR)
    4. 2019 2nd round pick (TBL)
    Additional Details:
    TBL Pick could turn into a 1st

    Maybe another F prospect gets added here
    2.
    NYR
    1. Draisaitl, Leon
    2. Lucic, Milan ($1,000,000 retained)
    EDM
    1. Bigras, Chris
    2. Gropp, Ryan
    3. Hayes, Kevin
    4. Namestnikov, Vladislav
    5. Nell, Chris
    6. 2020 2nd round pick (NYR)
    Additional Details:
    Probably insert another one of our 100 D prospects here:
    3.
    NYR
    1. Perreault, Mathieu
    2. Trouba, Jacob
    Additional Details:
    Eat Perraults $$$
    WPG
    1. Pionk, Neal
    2. Zuccarello, Mats
    3. 2019 3rd round pick (NYR)
    4.
    NYR
    1. 2019 3rd round pick (MTL)
    Additional Details:
    Or just any team wanting cheap depth goal scoring.

    Lucic @ $2.5 is actually pretty solid imo. If NYR had him @ $2.5 I'd take him, but not @ $5mil
    MTL
    1. Lucic, Milan ($2,500,000 retained)
    5.
    NYR
    TOR
    1. Perreault, Mathieu ($1,125,000 retained)
    Additional Details:
    Part of Nylander deal

    Could eat a little more $$$ on Perrault
    6.
    NYR
      Anywhere for a pick(s) rounds 4-7
      ANA
      1. Staal, Marc ($2,850,000 retained)
      Additional Details:
      Before y'all say "he ain't worth it at that price", people said the same about Girardi and he signed 2 years @ over $3mil a year w/ TBL and Girardi is older, with a lot less in the tank...
      Buyouts
      Retained Salary Transactions
      Buried
      DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
      2019
      Logo of the NYR
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the NYR
      Logo of the NYR
      Logo of the NYR
      Logo of the NYR
      2020
      Logo of the NYR
      Logo of the NYR
      Logo of the NYR
      Logo of the NYR
      Logo of the NYR
      Logo of the NYR
      2021
      Logo of the NYR
      Logo of the NYR
      Logo of the NYR
      Logo of the NYR
      Logo of the NYR
      Logo of the NYR
      Logo of the NYR
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      22$79,500,000$78,997,359$0$2,365,000$502,641
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
      $894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
      C, LW
      UFA - 3
      $8,500,000$8,500,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 7
      $7,000,000$7,000,000
      RW
      UFA - 6
      $4,625,000$4,625,000
      LW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      $5,350,000$5,350,000
      C
      UFA - 4
      $925,000$925,000
      LW, RW, C
      UFA - 1
      $2,275,000$2,275,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 2
      $863,333$863,333
      C, LW
      UFA - 3
      $894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
      C, LW
      RFA - 3
      $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
      RW
      RFA - 1
      $708,750$708,750
      C, LW
      UFA - 1
      $1,850,000$1,850,000
      RW
      UFA - 2
      $750,000$750,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      $4,500,000$4,500,000
      LD
      UFA - 6
      $6,650,000$6,650,000
      RD
      M-NTC, NMC
      UFA - 3
      $8,500,000$8,500,000
      G
      NMC
      UFA - 3
      $833,333$833,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
      LD
      UFA - 3
      $5,500,000$5,500,000
      RD
      UFA - 1
      $792,500$792,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
      G
      UFA - 2
      $650,000$650,000
      D
      UFA - 1
      $4,350,000$4,350,000
      LD/RD, LW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
      $700,000$700,000
      LD
      UFA - 1

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      Jul. 23, 2018 at 6:16 a.m.
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      XXX
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      As a Leafs fan.. that for fricking sure would not ever give you Nylander who is worth top-tier #1 RHD
      Jul. 23, 2018 at 6:22 a.m.
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      Quoting: SammyT_51
      As a Leafs fan.. that for fricking sure would not ever give you Nylander who is worth top-tier #1 RHD


      So just going back to my description at the top of the page...would you mind sending a counter offer so as to help everyone see what You think is fair value from the NYR here?

      Take into account Torontos $$$$ situation with having to sign Matthews and Marner next season
      Jul. 23, 2018 at 6:58 a.m.
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      Quoting: Hockeyfan5699
      So just going back to my description at the top of the page...would you mind sending a counter offer so as to help everyone see what You think is fair value from the NYR here?

      Take into account Torontos $$$$ situation with having to sign Matthews and Marner next season


      First of all sorry I just watched that trade and written. Second of all.. taking to the account our money situation we would have circa 2mil in cap space when all of the triplets are signed. Nylander gets 6.5 per so we could possibly get back 8.5 million. NYR has no elite RHD. They have Shattenkirk but he is more less RH Gardiner and after Gardiner signing with some team it would be even paying wise same. I dont think NYR would want to part ways with Pionk so he would not be in the deal. Remember.. Nylander can get to Kucherov's level in year or two, he is that great but is in shade of JT, AM and MM. In this way.. there is need to have 1st rounder, then player who is going to be instead of Nylander in his place in the roster who has top-line ceiling and can play right now (Lias Andersson or Buchnevich take your pick or send Kravtsov and take the last part out which wouldve been top D prospect) and a NHL ceiling D prospect. You maybe dont see it but Nylander is one of the few players ever to have two 60pts seasons before even his ELC ended. He has both defensive and offensive abilities on the highest level, great shot, great skating, elite puckhandling and ability to play C on top line level but his main position is RW. He is superstar in every meaning of the word.
      Jul. 23, 2018 at 7:18 a.m.
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      Leafs are in semi win now mode. None of those pieces help the Leafs. Unless a capable Dman coming back in the trade, the Leaf say no. And certainly the Leafs would have no need for Perrault
      In many ways I like that Oiler trade. Oilers get rid of lots of cap..and will have to spend it later to wisely to get back to the playoffs.
      Lucic has a NMC. While you might waive it to go to some teams like the NYR, I just don't think he would agree to flipped again to a bottom feeder like Montreal.
      I like the concept of the Jets trade to help the Jets with their cap space next year.
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      Jul. 23, 2018 at 7:19 a.m.
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      Quoting: SammyT_51
      First of all sorry I just watched that trade and written. Second of all.. taking to the account our money situation we would have circa 2mil in cap space when all of the triplets are signed. Nylander gets 6.5 per so we could possibly get back 8.5 million. NYR has no elite RHD. They have Shattenkirk but he is more less RH Gardiner and after Gardiner signing with some team it would be even paying wise same. I dont think NYR would want to part ways with Pionk so he would not be in the deal. Remember.. Nylander can get to Kucherov's level in year or two, he is that great but is in shade of JT, AM and MM. In this way.. there is need to have 1st rounder, then player who is going to be instead of Nylander in his place in the roster who has top-line ceiling and can play right now (Lias Andersson or Buchnevich take your pick or send Kravtsov and take the last part out which wouldve been top D prospect) and a NHL ceiling D prospect. You maybe dont see it but Nylander is one of the few players ever to have two 60pts seasons before even his ELC ended. He has both defensive and offensive abilities on the highest level, great shot, great skating, elite puckhandling and ability to play C on top line level but his main position is RW. He is superstar in every meaning of the word.


      Now this is a real good response! Thank you!

      So I do agree that Nylander is in the shadows of MM, AM, and JT, for sure, but I do believe we can field an offer that works for both sides.

      I'm gonna think on this one a bit and get back to ya.

      Lot to digest before a counter offer can be correctly made.

      Thanks for the comment! Definitely helped a lot!
      Jul. 23, 2018 at 7:23 a.m.
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      Quoting: palhal
      Leafs are in semi win now mode. None of those pieces help the Leafs. Unless a capable Dman coming back in the trade, the Leaf say no. And certainly the Leafs would have no need for Perrault
      In many ways I like that Oiler trade. Oilers get rid of lots of cap..and will have to spend it later to wisely to get back to the playoffs.
      Lucic has a NMC. While you might waive it to go to some teams like the NYR, I just don't think he would agree to flipped again to a bottom feeder like Montreal.
      I like the concept of the Jets trade to help the Jets with their cap space next year.


      Thanks for the comment!

      Yeah that Nylander trade is subject to change, kinda just threw something together vs thinking it out.

      What if Skjei was involved? What would be a reasonable counter offer in a Skjei-Nylander deal?

      Thanks! I figured the best thing for EDM is to open up $$$ for 2019 FA and to fix Chiarellis mistakes lol! Lucic probably doesn't waive to MTL, just sent him there bc I've seen a few times that MTL would be interested ?‍♂️I'm sure there's a team that'd take him @ $2.5 out there!

      O yea, if WPG is trading Trouba than they've gotta be able to also rid themselves of Perrault for that extra $$$ to re-sign Connor, Laine, Etc etc
      Jul. 23, 2018 at 9:00 a.m.
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      Management is pretty much set on not trading any young players. They have not done so in 5 years or so and I don't expect it now. Unless it's in a deal to get a similar aged high end dman he won't be going. The cap space is there for everyone the leafs have currently and still some left when UFAs walk. I don't know why people keep listening to the media who are just trying to create a negative spin on a 100% positive situation in Toronto.
      I cant really create a trade with the Rangers as honestly there is nothing they have we would want
      Jul. 23, 2018 at 10:06 a.m.
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      So I am going to make three points:

      First, a lot of these trades make sense, decent value and not too much head scratching involved (minus the leafs trade but SammyT explained that best).

      Two, this is a play-off team. That being said you gave up so many futures to get it, I question what is the point? This roster isn't sustainable and isn't a Stanley Cup winner, which I think is the main catch.

      Three, and its just to drive home a few points previous users have said, these trades have a lot of NMC involved so they maybe hard to get done, plus by the time you offer the proper value to Toronto and Winnipeg I think you're giving up too much of your future. Long rebuilds are hard, but man they pay off. Toronto rebuild was terrible, but we have so much coming up that we don't even have room, that is a great feeling. Stick to the course with a smaller rebuild, it will be worth it.
      Jul. 23, 2018 at 10:37 a.m.
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      Come onnnnn with that Trouba trade request. That isn't even close to ballpark. I don't think the Rangers have any pieces that are appealing enough to the Jets to even have them consider sending Trouba to NYR, and definitely not wit Perreault, who is a valuable depth player and doesn't need his contract to be "eaten" haha. This is leaps and bounds from being a decent proposal. Think somewhere along the lines of Trouba for a 1st, a good prospect and a good current player, at minimum. With so many teams interested, you better believe that it'll be a bidding war, and the team willing to give up the most will land him - and the jets aren't rushing to move him, seeing as they still have his rights for 2 more seasons and will likely be a contender for both of these years.
       
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