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Created by: ChiHawk
Team: 2018-19 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 28, 2018
Published: Jul. 28, 2018
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Trades
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  1. 2019 2nd round pick (OTT)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (CBJ)
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CAR
  1. Anisimov, Artem
  2. Forsberg, Anton
  3. Highmore, Matthew
  4. Kahun, Dominik
  5. 2019 2nd round pick (OTT)
  6. 2019 4th round pick (BOS)
  7. 2020 1st round pick (CHI)
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$79,500,000$66,889,711$1,232,500$1,907,500$12,610,289
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
$10,500,000$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
$778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$5,725,000$5,725,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, C
UFA - 1
$2,625,000$2,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 5
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
$833,750$833,750
C, LW
RFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
C
UFA - 1
$706,666$706,666
C, LW
UFA - 2
$2,775,000$2,775,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
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UFA - 2
$6,000,000$6,000,000
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M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 2
$6,875,000$6,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 2
$2,250,000$2,250,000
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UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 3

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Jul. 28, 2018 at 12:44 p.m.
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GM Tom Dundon
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Canes need better players, not more players. The picks are good, but not sure this is the right offer.

Anisimov’s contract hard to take on for the Canes right now.
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Jul. 28, 2018 at 1:08 p.m.
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Pile of crap won’t do it.
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Jul. 28, 2018 at 1:12 p.m.
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The CAR trade is far off value wise. Also, Hawks aren't trading Kahun before he plays a game in the organization considering they just signed him. Do you realize how bad that would look for the Hawks?
Jul. 28, 2018 at 2:56 p.m.
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Pile of crap won’t do it.


You've made 4 GM teams and over 2,000 comments; do you just troll other teams? You rarely give any positive feedback. Your comments are useless.
Jul. 28, 2018 at 2:57 p.m.
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The CAR trade is far off value wise. Also, Hawks aren't trading Kahun before he plays a game in the organization considering they just signed him. Do you realize how bad that would look for the Hawks?


So a team never trades a player they signed in the last few months? And why exactly does this look bad for the Hawks. This is a business not a church youth group.
Jul. 28, 2018 at 2:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
Canes need better players, not more players. The picks are good, but not sure this is the right offer.

Anisimov’s contract hard to take on for the Canes right now.


It's rumored the Canes are looking for picks and prospects, not better players for the current roster. Kahun is a good LW prospect with the ability to play 2nd line minutes, Forsberg is a great backup goalie prospect, highmore is a good bottom 2 line center prospect.
Jul. 28, 2018 at 3:19 p.m.
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Never heard a rumor that canes are willing to eat crappy contracts either

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It's rumored the Canes are looking for picks and prospects, not better players for the current roster. Kahun is a good LW prospect with the ability to play 2nd line minutes, Forsberg is a great backup goalie prospect, highmore is a good bottom 2 line center prospect.
Jul. 28, 2018 at 3:21 p.m.
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I find @Gofnut999 ‘s comments useful and usually pretty impartial.

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You've made 4 GM teams and over 2,000 comments; do you just troll other teams? You rarely give any positive feedback. Your comments are useless.
Jul. 28, 2018 at 3:52 p.m.
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You've made 4 GM teams and over 2,000 comments; do you just troll other teams? You rarely give any positive feedback. Your comments are useless.


Your offer would be the same as me offering Backes, Blidh, Sherman, and 2nd for Schmaltz. Wanna do it? No? Because it’s garbage for quality.

I give positve feedback when i see a good trade. If you haven’t seen any it should tell you something.
Jul. 28, 2018 at 5:03 p.m.
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So a team never trades a player they signed in the last few months? And why exactly does this look bad for the Hawks. This is a business not a church youth group.


No, teams never do that. It'd be different if he had played for the team and they extended him, like Hino. And think about it, would you want to sign with a team that signs and trades people immediately?
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Jul. 28, 2018 at 6:34 p.m.
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Never heard a rumor that canes are willing to eat crappy contracts either


What crappy contracts are you talking about, certainly not 3 prospects that all have and will play in the NHL on cheap contracts as of now? Anisimov, is that what you are referring too? It's not considered a crappy contract for a center that scores 20 goals a season. Is it slightly high, maybe $500K high but Hawks can retain and that would be constructive feedback versus calling it a crappy contract as doing so, tells me you don't understand contract values. A crappy contract is $4.1M a year for Darling who has a save % of .888.
Jul. 28, 2018 at 6:43 p.m.
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Your offer would be the same as me offering Backes, Blidh, Sherman, and 2nd for Schmaltz. Wanna do it? No? Because it’s garbage for quality.

I give positve feedback when i see a good trade. If you haven’t seen any it should tell you something.


Now I know you're out of your mind. Comparing Backes to Anisimov...you're kidding right? AA scores 20 goals a season, Backes doesn't, comes at $1.5M cheaper, and is 4 years younger. Dumb comparison.

Futhermore, I included a Center, LW who has huge upside, and proven backup goalie who is still plenty young and has upside...better save % then Darling; I'm guessing you don't know much about these players to write them off as garbage.

The picks are a 1st, OTT's 2nd which is basically a late round 1st, and a 4th.

Schmaltz has a lot more value then Faulk, and more value then a one dimensional LW'er as Schmaltz is a 4 years younger, a two way player, a center and a much cheaper contract both being 1 year rentals. Comparing Schmatlz's value one on one to Faulk or Skinner is simply assinine. Any GM wouldn't do such a thing. Exactly why Car wanted Schmaltz and a 1st for Faulk and Skinner both and Chi told them to go scratch.
Jul. 28, 2018 at 6:47 p.m.
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No, teams never do that. It'd be different if he had played for the team and they extended him, like Hino. And think about it, would you want to sign with a team that signs and trades people immediately?


Do you want me to show you examples of teams that have signed a player a rookie and traded him before he played for the NHL team he signed with?

It's a business. It happens a lot more then you realize. Just how do you think we got Edjsell? C'mon, give me a break. I know Hawks fans see Kahun as the possibility to be the next Panarin but look as his play in the DEL. He certainly has the chance to be a 20 to 30 goal scorer and a solid 2nd or 3rd line option but he's not the 2nd coming of Kane like Panarin was.
Jul. 28, 2018 at 6:49 p.m.
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Now I know you're out of your mind. Comparing Backes to Anisimov...you're kidding right? AA scores 20 goals a season, Backes doesn't, comes at $1.5M cheaper, and is 4 years younger. Dumb comparison.

Futhermore, I included a Center, LW who has huge upside, and proven backup goalie who is still plenty young and has upside...better save % then Darling; I'm guessing you don't know much about these players to write them off as garbage.

The picks are a 1st, OTT's 2nd which is basically a late round 1st, and a 4th.

Schmaltz has a lot more value then Faulk, and more value then a one dimensional LW'er as Schmaltz is a 4 years younger, a two way player, a center and a much cheaper contract both being 1 year rentals. Comparing Schmatlz's value one on one to Faulk or Skinner is simply assinine. Any GM wouldn't do such a thing. Exactly why Car wanted Schmaltz and a 1st for Faulk and Skinner both and Chi told them to go scratch.


I'd love to see you throw some GM teams together, you've only made 4 but make over 2,000 comments on others ideas, to see what your "expertise" would do; judging by your comment here comparing Backes to Anisimov and lack of knowledge about the players in this proposed trade, I'm pretty sure you couldn't pull a 5 star rating.
Jul. 28, 2018 at 6:53 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Do you want me to show you examples of teams that have signed a player a rookie and traded him before he played for the NHL team he signed with?

It's a business. It happens a lot more then you realize. Just how do you think we got Edjsell? C'mon, give me a break. I know Hawks fans see Kahun as the possibility to be the next Panarin but look as his play in the DEL. He certainly has the chance to be a 20 to 30 goal scorer and a solid 2nd or 3rd line option but he's not the 2nd coming of Kane like Panarin was.


They had him under contract for a year, it's not like Kahun who was signed a couple months ago. It really doesn't happen, and it absolutely reflects poorly on teams that would do it.

As for Kahun's talent level, I don't think he makes the team. He'll probably be called up at some point but he's not going to score 30 a year even if he plays with Kane
Jul. 28, 2018 at 6:59 p.m.
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They had him under contract for a year, it's not like Kahun who was signed a couple months ago. It really doesn't happen, and it absolutely reflects poorly on teams that would do it.

As for Kahun's talent level, I don't think he makes the team. He'll probably be called up at some point but he's not going to score 30 a year even if he plays with Kane


Incorrect. Preds signed him mid may 2017 and dumped him in February; never saw the ice.

Kahun definitely has a chance to score 20 to 30 goals on a 2nd line pairing or 3rd line...that’s his upside and value. Never said that would happen in his first year.
Jul. 28, 2018 at 7:03 p.m.
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Now I know you're out of your mind. Comparing Backes to Anisimov...you're kidding right? AA scores 20 goals a season, Backes doesn't, comes at $1.5M cheaper, and is 4 years younger. Dumb comparison.

Futhermore, I included a Center, LW who has huge upside, and proven backup goalie who is still plenty young and has upside...better save % then Darling; I'm guessing you don't know much about these players to write them off as garbage.

The picks are a 1st, OTT's 2nd which is basically a late round 1st, and a 4th.

Schmaltz has a lot more value then Faulk, and more value then a one dimensional LW'er as Schmaltz is a 4 years younger, a two way player, a center and a much cheaper contract both being 1 year rentals. Comparing Schmatlz's value one on one to Faulk or Skinner is simply assinine. Any GM wouldn't do such a thing. Exactly why Car wanted Schmaltz and a 1st for Faulk and Skinner both and Chi told them to go scratch.


Lol. Backes has averaged 22 goals per 82 games. AA-19. Backes has always been a better player than AA. Last season Backes had 33 pts in 57 games. AA 31 in 72. Backes has been an all-star and selke finalist. AA is a career 3rd liner.

All moot point. Both offers are equal in value. Pure ?. And i know the players you offered well. I follow every team, not just my own.
Jul. 28, 2018 at 7:09 p.m.
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Got me there...I really f’ed up when I offered darling that contract. You’re actually right, both Darling and Anisimov’s contracts are dogs, and we now both have to leave with them.

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A crappy contract is $4.1M a year for Darling who has a save % of .888.
Jul. 28, 2018 at 7:10 p.m.
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Lol. Backes has averaged 22 goals per 82 games. AA-19. Backes has always been a better player than AA. Last season Backes had 33 pts in 57 games. AA 31 in 72. Backes has been an all-star and selke finalist. AA is a career 3rd liner.


And Backes is 34 years old, on a $6M contract and all the skill you talk about was years ago. He couldn’t stay healthy last year and had 17 goals the prior season when he did stay healthy. Sorry, but AA has a lot more value TODAY which is what we are discussing then Backes and for $1.5M cheaper.
Jul. 28, 2018 at 7:15 p.m.
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And Backes is 34 years old, on a $6M contract and all the skill you talk about was years ago. He couldn’t stay healthy last year and had 17 goals the prior season when he did stay healthy. Sorry, but AA has a lot more value TODAY which is what we are discussing then Backes and for $1.5M cheaper.


He had diverticulitis. Hardly injury prone. He did have a down year the year before. He and his family had a hard time getting adjusted to the move. May have been a factor. The cap hit sucks. But i’d rather have him than Anisimov. He had more points, hits, blocks in fewer games. Better on faceoff. Better defensively. Outside of the PP AA is almost useless.
 
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