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Pacioretty to Colorado.

Created by: SammyT_51
Team: 2018-19 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 6, 2018
Published: Aug. 6, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
MTL
  1. Kamenev, Vladislav
  2. 2019 1st round pick (COL)
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (COL)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$67,100,595$0$2,195,000$12,399,405

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
UFA - 5
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, C
UFA - 1
$4,050,000$4,050,000
LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
$885,833$885,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
UFA - 2
$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$3,937,500$3,937,500
C, LW
UFA - 1
$1,975,000$1,975,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$950,000$950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$100,000$100K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$2,150,000$2,150,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 2
$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 3
$3,450,000$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
$5,900,000$5,900,000
G
UFA - 1
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$1,450,000$1,450,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Aug. 6, 2018 at 11:56 a.m.
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Love that idea, i would hope MB could get that kind of return.
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Aug. 6, 2018 at 11:57 a.m.
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Quoting: BigBaba
Love that idea, i would hope MB could get that kind of return.


The best thing is that Kamenev would get top-6 opportunity to show his talent. And of course the 1st rounder
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Aug. 6, 2018 at 12:00 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
The best thing is that Kamenev would get top-6 opportunity to show his talent. And of course the 1st rounder


I would prefer getting back maybe a defensive prospect but Kamenev is a big guy that could be helpful in Montreal or Laval
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Aug. 6, 2018 at 12:02 p.m.
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Wow, a trade that works for both teams. Don’t see that often on this site anymore. ??
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Aug. 6, 2018 at 12:02 p.m.
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Quoting: BigBaba
I would prefer getting back maybe a defensive prospect but Kamenev is a big guy that could be helpful in Montreal or Laval


Kamenev is good two-way C who was sidelined by bad injury otherwise he would be in top-9 in Colorado. He has nothing to do in AHL, he gotta need opportunity to prove himself and what better choice.
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Aug. 6, 2018 at 12:31 p.m.
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Big time pass on this. Kam is NHL ready prospect, 1 st, and a 3rd is way to much for Patches. He would help but hes a 30 year old pending UFA, thats not at all what the Avs direction is right now. Avs are just not in the situation that they to spending assets on older rentals

Skinner was a lower level prospect than Kamenev and mid round picks, why would Avs trade better assets for patches
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Aug. 6, 2018 at 12:34 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Big time pass on this. Kam is NHL ready prospect, 1 st, and a 3rd is way to much for Patches. He would help but hes a 30 year old pending UFA, thats not at all what the Avs direction is right now. Avs are just not in the situation that they to spending assets on older rentals

Skinner was a lower level prospect than Kamenev and mid round picks, why would Avs trade better assets for patches


Please see my idea for Las Vegas.
Aug. 6, 2018 at 12:36 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Please see my idea for Las Vegas.


Patches wont get that sort of return from Vegas. The skinner trade really skewed the market for a guy like Patches this late in the offseason.
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Aug. 6, 2018 at 12:38 p.m.
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Patches wont get that sort of return from Vegas. The skinner trade really skewed the market for a guy like Patches this late in the offseason.


Yeah, but George can afford to overpay. See Tatar, Tomas.
Aug. 6, 2018 at 12:42 p.m.
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Yeah, but George can afford to overpay. See Tatar, Tomas.


yeah thats not really how things would work. Again Montreal doesnt have the leverage as they already basically announced they are going to trade him. Teams are not going to over pay right now when the return on guys like Hoffman, Skinner, ROR have been low.

No one is going to offer up a 1st, multiple other draft picks, roster player+ for a 30 year old Pending UFA. Montreals best chance of getting a return for him is to keep him to start the season, play up his value and wait for a team that needs to make a trade to either deal with an injury or if a team is struggling and needs to make a change.
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Aug. 6, 2018 at 2:05 p.m.
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I'm in!!!! I suspect it's a little rich for Sakic's blood, but maybe....
Aug. 6, 2018 at 7:58 p.m.
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Good grief no! Not a hope of Patches fetching that in the current market and Sakic would be stupid to do it.
Aug. 6, 2018 at 10:36 p.m.
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Havent seen Kamenev’s name thrown out there too often on this site. Good trade, work for both team.
 
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