Nylander already stated that he wants longterm deal and not bridge deal. But that 6.25 might be a reality, but I expect full 8yr deal.

Nylander is going to get around 7 for 8 years. He wants long term and so does Dubas so they'll get a deal done in that range.

But why would Nylander be over 6.5? All comparable players have him in the low 6's.

If Toronto can figure out they're cap situation by signing Matthews Nylander and marner for discounts and then fix their D they'll win the cup imo

We'll see. I don't believe Nylander want a long term deal (but that's just me). Folks should NEVER believe what players, coaches, executive say in the the press. All parties, we give the long term spiel, and don't want to embarrass themselves or the other party. If a long term deal is not reached, both can say we couldn't come to a long term solution now, but will revisit it at a later date. All parties save face.
Sammy, I know you wish to be a NHL executive. Gotta learn to play the press. Whatever is said to them, may or may not be true. To quote the late great Flip Wilson, "A lie is as good as the truth if you can get someone to believe it."

You're correct. The Leafs have a decision to make in 2019/20 or 2020/19. Go with an expensive forward lineup and cheap, young defence (which still might be good). OR. If an expensive veteran Dman is needed, an expensive forward will have to traded for cap reasons. All teams do the same balancing.

Because comparable are done in percentages of the cap so anyone who you compare him to (Nikolaj Ehlers is a popular one I guess) you will have take in to account that the cap went up by about 5 mil. So when Ehlers signed the cap was 75 mil, his contract works out to about the 8% of the cap which would be 6,360,000 in this cap.

This has to be one of the biggest "ifs" in a while. That is A LOT of question marks. What qualify as "discounts"? Do you think all three plus an outsider defenceman all take "discounts"? I think you could probably take 10 teams in the NHL and do a "what if" scenario like this and say they will win the cup.

Larkin signed his contract hours ago. Last I checked, cap has not changed. That will be a huge indicator on cap inflation. 6x6 to 6@6.25 for Nylander.
Larkin: 16G/63P
Nylander: 20G/61P

Nylander gets more b/c he's done it two seasons in a row plus more goals.
That being said, he played with Matthews. Larkin plays on the Wings. Also Nylander plays wing, Larkin is a #1C (C's cost more).

That Larkin signing was a steal for the Wings thoooo, I guess it does help the Leafs case now.

Because inflation and he's going to push for 8 years instead of 6 or 7. Just give him the damn money, he'll earn it. Trust me.

Larkin is not a 1C

Actually 5 years is a longterm contract bridge deals are usually 1-3 years in length. A contract like that does help keep his cap hit lower (in this case 6.25 is probably on the high end from what i'm reading for less than max years) but also allows the leafs to give him a max year contract in 4-5 years that will keep him here for his prime years. I would prefer 7-8 years but if it lowers his cap hit by a mill or 2 it will give us more flex signing every one else.

Thank god you're not a gm. Overpay him! He will earn it! Trust me! Do you remember that the leafs are about to go into cap hell? At best we will be scraping within hundreds of thousands of the cap, so literally every dollar matters here. Also, don't overpay your players! IT SETS PRECEDENT! If Nylander is worth 7, how much is Marner worth? How about Matthews? How about Kapanen, Brown, and Johnsson?

Dude. Larkin is a #1C. Look all around this site, almost all DET ACGM's have Larkin at #1C. Have you seen the kid play? He is the real thing. So don't be stupid.

Your right centres do make a bit more so seeing nylander is a RW who fills in at centre he should be on par or less than Larkin.

Nylander is worth 7 for 8 years. Marner will get closer to 8 for 8 years and Matthews will get 11 for 8 years. Which are all fair deals for what they are going to accomplish. This can be done and it won't cripple the team, they may take a slight step back next year since they'll have to go very young on the blue line but its more than possible. What it would also do is provide long term cost certainty. The entire core would be under contract at a set rate through their prime years. As for Kapanen and Johsson, they'll either have to take home town discounts on short term deals (Similar to Hyman and Brown) and if they want bigger money or longer term, trade them and replace with a farm hand on a ELC. That's the beauty of this situation, paying the big guys just means we can't throw stupid money at depth guys. Its actually a positive thing. I'm not ever going to overpay a player but underpay stars is a recipe for disaster. Nylander, Marner and Matthews will be players that will score 80+ points for the next 8 years, why underpay on short term deals just to overpay after they show you how great they are during their prime? Look at Anahiem, or Chicago, or LA etc, teams that underpaid their stars when they were young and then gave them massive 8 year deals in their late 20's. Now many of those players are declining and still have several years left on heavily overpriced deals. Never pay people for what they did, but they are capable of doing now.

"You can pay Nylander and Marner 7 and 8 million."
Ahem *cough cough*
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/818258
No you can't.

Also just reread your last statement. "Look all around this site, almost all DET ACGM's Have Larkin at #1C" The Arm Chair Gm's on here are definitely the guys to listen to, no one has ever proposed anything ridiculous.

I have seen him play, he is a very good young player but a franchise 1C he is not. If he was on Toronto, he wouldn't even play centre and would likely play LW on one of the top two lines or he'd be 3rd line RW. He's very good but Detroit literally has zero depth. I'm not knocking him, I'm just telling it like it is. Playing 1C doesn't mean you are a 1C. 3 seasons ago Kadri was TO's 1C didn't mean he was an actual 1C. Is Drouin a 1C anywhere in NHL outside of Montreal? Probably not.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/815719

You just don't want to see it work.

Ideally, If he is a C, He would be a 2C while he develops. Detroit does not have that option, and thus needs to play him, and thus pay him as a 1C. I was giving you and easy example by looking at the ACGM's. The point is most people agree he is and will be a 1C, He is (funnily enough) like Nylander at C. Not amazing, but nothing to complain about. Just a decent 1C.

One thing that is absolutely sure is that Nylander isn't getting max term on his contract. He might get 6 or even 7 years, but not 8. The Leafs won't have 3 players signed for 8 years (because if they do that for Nylander, Marner & Matthews are next). Everytime a teams offers a max term contract to a player, it's a big risk for the organisation. Teams are less and less willing to do that, let alone do it for 3 of their players!

My guess is :
W.N. gets 6x6.35M$
M.M. gets 7x7.8M$
A.M. gets 8x11M$ (he should accept a little less, imho...like 10.5M$ to give the team a better chance/better cap situation)

Liljegren is not ready to be a 1RHD. Leafs do that and he will be Schenn 2.0. You are also under paying Johnsson, and don't have a full roster.

Nylander isn't a 1C but he's one of the best players in the League at 5v5, he's a possession monster and his talent level gives him en exceptionally high ceiling. If Larkin is a 1C then there are about 70 of them in the NHL when in reality there are less true 1C's in the NHL than there are teams. There are guys who play 1C and there are elite franchise centres. Larkin is a guy who will be forced to play 1C and that's too much pressure to put on him. All that being said, I have no problems with his contract, he's worth that much but he won't produce like Nylander will over the course of his contract. Nylander will be a point a game guy as early as this coming season. Larkin may never accomplish that.

You're right that it's possible, but only by taking a huge risk on defense by playing there young unproven D-man. But...it has worked for some teams in the past, who knows! There's potential, that's for sure

Zaitsev may need to be moved to make it all work, that or possible trade Kapanen or Johnsson but those depth guys are all expendable, Nylander is not. He's elite as are Marner and Matthews, those types of players are incredibly hard to find and when you get them, you lock them up and then find players to play with them. But those guys who make other players better are the ones who deserve the big bucks. If I was GM I'd never be caught handing out 5+ to guys like Tom Wilson or 3 million to Komarov or even 2 million for someone like Johnsson or Kapanen unless one of them scores 40 goals then maybe you make room for them by moving out some other depth guys like Brown or whoever.

The point is, in a salary cap world you need maximum value out of all your contracts and if you have the stars which Toronto does, those are the guys you pay, and then you get others to take hometown discounts.