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Trade Gards (get Karlsson for fun)

Created by: MattyMadden28
Team: 2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 15, 2018
Published: Aug. 15, 2018
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Gotta move Jake. As good as he is, if the right deal was available, you’d have to consider it. What do you think you’d get for him. If Dmen are such a premium asset he’d get a bunch in return even as a ufa. Yes he makes the team better this year. Yes the Leafs D are weaker then it’s forward group. And yes he’s probably the best Dman on the team. But this team is going to go on a run for the next 7 years getting a 1st in a strong draft with a decent roster D or/and a prospect plus whatever makes the deal, could contribute on the cheap in the heart of those 7yrs. Trading him to say Chicago who may feel there window is closing and take a chance by adding some mobility to there back end. They even have the cap to sign him to. So Gards to Chicago for say their 2019 1st, 2020 2nd (condition of resigning) and Jokiharju (29th 2017). The First could easily be a 20-25 pick or a top 10 depending on how Chicago bounces back next year. And the young RHD in Joki would give the leafs a potential cheap RHD puck mover. The young core of Rielly Dermott Borgman Rosen Liljegren Sandin and Jokiharju would be solid and cheap enough in the heart of the next 7 years.

Now
Rielly Carrick
Dermott Zaitsev
Borgman Hainsey

Potentially
Dermott Rielly
Sandin Jokiharju
Borgman Liljegren
Rosen Zaitsev

Now I’m not saying trading Jake is a slam dunk move. There is risk. Trading one year of Jake Gardiner on a contender for potential doesn’t always work out but it’s a risk I’d take with the depth of LHD, Jakes likely next contract and the potential to add a cheap RHD asset plus potentially good picks for the next 7yrs
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$6,750,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
  2. 2019 1st round pick (CHI)
  3. 2019 2nd round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Gardiner, Jake
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2.
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2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$79,500,000$71,700,833$2,550,000$6,432,500$7,799,167
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 1
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 1
$6,750,000$6,750,000
RW
UFA - 6
$787,500$787,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$863,333$863,333
RW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$767,500$767,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 4
$850,000$850,000
G
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
$1,300,000$1,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 15, 2018 at 1:41 p.m.
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Chicago laughs and hangs the phone
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Aug. 15, 2018 at 1:43 p.m.
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Let’s hear it
Aug. 15, 2018 at 1:44 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Chicago laughs and hangs the phone


Quoting: MattyMadden28
Why. Is a top pair D not worth a late first prospect D and first on a potentially good team?
Aug. 15, 2018 at 1:48 p.m.
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Quoting: MattyMadden28


The problem is that Chicago does need defensive defenders not pure offensive guys like Gardiner who would get 6+mil extension in 1yr. Next thing is that 2019 1st rounder for chicago would be likely top-10 pick and they would not give up that for Gards.
Aug. 15, 2018 at 1:50 p.m.
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Ok. Fair enough. So if you think Chicago is destined for the basement should they trade there big guys? Should probably get value for them during the rebuild? No?
Aug. 15, 2018 at 1:51 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
The problem is that Chicago does need defensive defenders not pure offensive guys like Gardiner who would get 6+mil extension in 1yr. Next thing is that 2019 1st rounder for chicago would be likely top-10 pick and they would not give up that for Gards.


Ok. Fair enough. So if you think Chicago is destined for the basement should they trade there big guys? Should probably get value for them during the rebuild? No?
Aug. 15, 2018 at 1:52 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
The problem is that Chicago does need defensive defenders not pure offensive guys like Gardiner who would get 6+mil extension in 1yr. Next thing is that 2019 1st rounder for chicago would be likely top-10 pick and they would not give up that for Gards.


If that is your only reason then find a team that needs that form of defense. Florida comes to mind.
Aug. 15, 2018 at 1:53 p.m.
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Quoting: MattyMadden28
Ok. Fair enough. So if you think Chicago is destined for the basement should they trade there big guys? Should probably get value for them during the rebuild? No?


Have they got someone big on 1yr deals they could deal? Most of their big guys are on 2,3 or more yrs deals
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Aug. 15, 2018 at 1:53 p.m.
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If that is your only reason then find a team that needs that form of defense. Florida comes to mind.


I was thinking about that. But what we would take on?
Aug. 15, 2018 at 1:57 p.m.
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I'd never make that trade as CHI. I think they're a bottom 10 team this year, especially playing in the division that they do. Give up your best d prospect and an early first for a guy you will have for a year and then he walks? Or throw in a second and you keep a dman they can't afford and is very one-dimensional? Doesn't make sense to me.
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Aug. 15, 2018 at 1:59 p.m.
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Quoting: MattyMadden28
Ok. Fair enough. So if you think Chicago is destined for the basement should they trade there big guys? Should probably get value for them during the rebuild? No?


They just don't have very many guys who can be traded. Kane and Toews will have statues in front of the United Center, Keith will be hanging from the rafters, Seabrook's contract is unmovable. The only guys they can trade are Anisimov, Murphy, and Rutta which they will likely deal at the deadline if they aren't in contention. Our first round pick isn't in play until they're in contention.
Aug. 15, 2018 at 2:47 p.m.
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Defends team in explanation with “this team is going to go on a run for 7 years” and then trades away best prospects on defence... *palm hits face*. Thankfully he doesn’t know how good Ozhiganov is going to be or I’m sure he would have put him on the block with our future of prospects and a first rounder...
Aug. 15, 2018 at 2:49 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
I was thinking about that. But what we would take on?


Wow, lol. I didn't even think of that part. Touche. I feel silly.
Aug. 15, 2018 at 3:24 p.m.
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Why would the Hawks give up so much for a young rental. Why do the Leafs gut it's future for a one year rental?
Aug. 16, 2018 at 4:39 a.m.
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Why would the Hawks give up so much for a young rental. Why do the Leafs gut it's future for a one year rental?


I get it. You don’t like rental trades.
Aug. 16, 2018 at 12:23 p.m.
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Quoting: MattyMadden28
I get it. You don’t like rental trades.


No, I rental trades are OK to the right teams. But there is this obsession that rentals should get full long term playing value in trades.
 
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