nope, Flames want Stone, it will cost them Tkachuk

Lol wtf

WOAH relax there sir. I think it's safe to say that Stone will not resign in Ottawa next year. And where on earth do you think that Stone gets you Tkachuk? That's not saying Stone isn't a great player, cause he is... that just means that anybody would rather have Tkachuk over Stone. There's a pretty significant age difference, Tkchuck has better raw talent and the contract situation.

So in return you're getting a 1st, a solid former 1st round defender prospect and a cap dump that's UFA in 2 years. The 1st should be a 2019 but other than that, I can't see any teams beat that offer...

It's nto "safe to say" Stone won't be back in Ottawa. If that were the case, he would already be gone. Secondly, there's no way I would ever take Matt Tkachuk over Stone. I'd gladly pay Stone what he's worth and keep him over Tkachuk. Stone is easily a top 10 RW in the league, Tkachuk is not. I think if Stone was considered a rental, the price would be high. Any team wanting to make a playoff push would easily offer up a young prospect and a first round pick. You want me to take an overpaid Frolik and get Stone in return for a playoff run, yeah i want more than Valimaki and a 1st. I'd look elsewhere if this was the return. A team like VGK or NSH would gladly give up a first round pick and high-end prospect for Stone, with probably a few other low end pieces. I could name 10 teams who would happily beat that offer for a year of Mark Stone.

If I can't say Stone won't resign in Ottawa then you can't say 10 teams would be willing to trade a high end prospect, a 1st and other pieces.. I'm not trying to say Stone isn't a top 10 RW in the league, he's been amazing the last 3 years.. Maybe I was devaluation Stone by agreeing with that trade, that's my mistake but I would still take Matt Tkachuck over Stone for a one-on-one

Tkachuk is not on the table for a trade. he is one of calgarys untouchables unless there is a massive overpay. and from the above comment Valimaki is a high end prospect. Valimaki and a first is a pretty solid offer for a rental. maybe we throw in Kilmchuk or Kylington but I don't see many more teams offering more than that. Frolik is also in there because Calgary would need to clear cap to take on Stones contract

Ottawa is a dumpster fire that is only intensifying it makes sense for them to be selling off their UFA's unless there is absolute certainty they are going to sign there

More than fair

I would not by any stretch say that Tkachuk is better than Stone (coming from a flames fan).

If this were a deadline deal and Calgary had contract in place to resign Stone, then I think it's a fair deal. Valimaki is a high-end D prospect. If Stone wanted to stay in Ottawa he would have signed more than a 1 year deal as he had the leverage in his contract negotiations, even if Melnyk was cheaping out on AAV for a longer term deal. Seems like a low value to get for Stone but it's a better deal than having Stone leave for nothing, in free agency. Stone is a very very good RW.

There is no way in hell Mark Stone is worth Matthew Tkachuk. It’s surprisig how one of the best D prospects in the game doesn’t interest you though. This trade needs more, but Tkachuk for Stone 1 for 1, the flames would be fleeced.