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Patches trade finally happens

Created by: ChiHawk
Team: 2018-19 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 15, 2018
Published: Aug. 15, 2018
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Description
Patches agrees to 6 year extension at $6M per season
Free Agent Signings
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Beaudin, Nicolas
3$925,000
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Pacioretty, Max
  2. 2019 3rd round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Beaudin, Nicolas
  2. Anisimov, Artem
  3. 2019 2nd round pick (CHI)
  4. 2019 4th round pick (BOS)
2.
CHI
  1. 2019 4th round pick (LAK)
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2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$64,583,878$1,232,500$4,915,000$14,916,122
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
$10,500,000$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
$778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$4,050,000$4,050,000
LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, C
UFA - 1
$2,625,000$2,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 5
$833,750$833,750
C, LW
RFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
C
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
$2,775,000$2,775,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
$775,833$775,833 (Performance Bonus$157,500$158K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
$3,850,000$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 4
$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 2
$6,875,000$6,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000
D
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 3

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Aug. 15, 2018 at 11:42 p.m.
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mmmh. maybe not....

you are going to need to add more my friend, especially if he resigns
Aug. 15, 2018 at 11:45 p.m.
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
mmmh. maybe not....

you are going to need to add more my friend, especially if he resigns


MTL gets a 2018 1st round pick that they were targeting, a high 2nd round pick (Hawks aren't going to do much this year), a 4th rounder, and AA who's a perennial 20 goal a year scorer and helps bridge the gap until your new Finnish center is ready. That's quite a package for a 1 year rental...he's a UFA not a RFA so MTL doesn't have a ton of leverage trying to trade him as part of an extension.
Aug. 15, 2018 at 11:49 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
MTL gets a 2018 1st round pick that they were targeting, a high 2nd round pick (Hawks aren't going to do much this year), a 4th rounder, and AA who's a perennial 20 goal a year scorer and helps bridge the gap until your new Finnish center is ready. That's quite a package for a 1 year rental...he's a UFA not a RFA so MTL doesn't have a ton of leverage trying to trade him as part of an extension.


and Patch is a perennial 33+ goal winger...
Aug. 15, 2018 at 11:52 p.m.
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
and Patch is a perennial 33+ goal winger...


Really? How many did he score last season? Everyone knows Patches probably isn't re-signing in MTL. They don't have much leverage. He should've been traded a while ago but his value is so low because of his poor performance this past season.
Aug. 15, 2018 at 11:54 p.m.
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
and Patch is a perennial 33+ goal winger...


Which is why it's not a 1 for 1 trade with AA. Not to mention Patches scored 17 last year and is coming off an injury.
Aug. 16, 2018 at 12:03 a.m.
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Really? How many did he score last season? Everyone knows Patches probably isn't re-signing in MTL. They don't have much leverage. He should've been traded a while ago but his value is so low because of his poor performance this past season.


Max wants to stay in MTL, he will be so thankful not to uproot his family,

MB shows him a fair contract and he sign in a heartbeat! So MB can take his time, and if it's not worth it, he will keep him.
Aug. 16, 2018 at 12:05 a.m.
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Max wants to stay in MTL, he will be so thankful not to uproot his family,

MB shows him a fair contract and he sign in a heartbeat! So MB can take his time, and if it's not worth it, he will keep him.


If you say so, even though MTL is a dumpster fire right now with an injured goalie and star defenseman...
Aug. 16, 2018 at 12:08 a.m.
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Max wants to stay in MTL, he will be so thankful not to uproot his family,

MB shows him a fair contract and he sign in a heartbeat! So MB can take his time, and if it's not worth it, he will keep him.


And let's be honest, in addition to Nick's point, I'm sure Patches would want to play in Chicago given they have the biggest fanbase in the NHL and play on a line with Kane and Schmaltz.
Aug. 16, 2018 at 8:20 a.m.
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I would say this is a very reasonable trade. I don't know much about Beaudin but his production has increased every year in the Q and he's a left shot D that fills a need for Montreal. And I agree with you that AA would be a good bridge/mentor type player until the young guy is ready.
Aug. 16, 2018 at 8:39 a.m.
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Habs fan here. I'll take this trade and I find it's a fair deal for both ends so great job (I may use this trade in my own post later on)

But any hockey fan knows that every player gets hurt and every player has a few bad seasons in their career. Yes Patches had a bad year last season but the team was in shambles so there's not much there. Put him with an actual C and he's back to his form for you guys. I also think that Chicago is a team he would resign long-term with so another added benefit for you guys.

I would like to add a condition where IF Patches resigns long-term with the Hawks, CHI 4th and MTL 3rd are removed from the trade.
Aug. 16, 2018 at 4:08 p.m.
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Only way I consider this is if Patches is extended, and at something reasonable in term and rate. Anisimov is worth a 2nd rounder, and you are adding in another 2nd and a first. Rental Patches is not worth 2 2nd's and a 1st. I personally would not do that trade even for an extended Patches. I would save the cap space and assets and let DCat, Hayden, and Sikura play more prominent roles (then they will with Patches here) and would not be surprised to see one or even two out produce Patches.

The Hawks are more then a Patches away from being a legit Cup contender (as in the whole enchilada). With or without Patches, I don't see the Hawks as more then playoff team that maybe wins a series (and that is with a lot of things working out ideally...Crawford is right, Toews/Saad bounce back, Keith/Seabs find the fountain of youth, lots of luck with health, etc). The Hawks need a kid if not two of their young D to breakout and be impactful at the NHL level and I see this year as a growing pains/developmental year where hopefully a couple are ready next year after taking some lumps this. If you have the cap space in hand, you can plug holes next off season when guys like not only Patches, but Stone, Duchene, Sequin, Panarin, Skinner, Eberle, Pavelski, Skinner, Hayes, Brassard, Wheeler, Nyquist, Zuccarello, Nelson, Simmonds, Silfverberg, & Lee are all currently in route to be UFA forward options (and I know many will not make it to market...but I bet several will and not cost a 1st and 2 2nds). Not even getting into Toronto, Winnipeg, & Tampa would seem to maybe need to shed a useful forward each to make the cap work. Even further, the Hawks best utilization of cap space maybe on D if none of the kid blossom as expected/hoped or if Crawford does not bounce back.
 
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