Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I'd probably agree that SJ wouldn't be super into trading Hertl, but i don't think its fair to say MD95 had a bad season. Even with the really bad start in Ottawa, he still put up 27 goals and nearly 60 points.
We're having the same argument that should have been had in Ottawa before the Matt Duchene trade. They traded a bunch of young futures and Kyle Turris for Matt Duchene. The question is, how much better is Duchene than Turris? On the outside, not much better. Once you start getting down into the detail, Duchene is a better player.
So is Duchene a better player than Tomas Hertl? The short answer is yes, but how much better? If I'm the Sharks, I want Duchene, but not at the cost of Hertl. Doing the Duchene-for-Hertl deal makes the team a lot better, but once you consider taking away Hertl from the Sharks, how much better did they really get? I'll give you Tierney, Donskoi, etc. Honesly, I want Duchene to play WITH Hertl. Same line. Hertl-Couture-Duchene. Ottawa should want the futures, not the players that are in their primes right now. They should want the John Norris or Ryan Merkley or the Dylan Gambrell. They can get more of those, save more money, and be even better in 3-5 years.
Blow the whole thing up. The problem is that Ottawa doesn't want to admit they are bad, they don't want to rebuild. They are losing money, and a rebuild will only drive fans away more. But in order for them to actually have a decent future, they need to trade everything and build it back up. Trade Duchene for a bunch of picks and prospects, not Tomas Hertl. Trade Erik Karlsson (without Bobby Ryan) for the three best prospects you can get out of someone and a couple of picks. Trade Bobby Ryan for another bad contract and a prospect. Trade Mark Stone for a boatload of talent you won't see until after 2020, but will make the team better than it is now.
They got to goalie prospect from Pittsburgh. They have a solid defensive prospect. And they have a couple decent forwards in the development stage. Add more. Look at what the Lightning did by adding Stamkos, Kucherov, Johnson, Point, Killorn, Palat, Droiun, etc. as they rebuilt the entire team. They used that to build up their defense around Victor Hedman. Do it right and tear the whole team down, be bad for two years, and make this team the right way.
I'm not saying Duchene was garbage last year, but it wasn't a "good" year by his standards. You're trying to trade him at his lowest value. He looks like a bad influence by being on two horrible teams in a row, and he didn't necessarily blow things up like MacKinnon did last year after Duchene left. He also only has a year on his deal. My point is his value is really low right now, that's all.