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Canadiens de Montréal

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Team: 2018-19 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 27, 2018
Published: Aug. 27, 2018
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Trades
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MTL
  1. 2019 4th round pick (BOS)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (CHI)
4.
MTL
  1. 2019 5th round pick (LAK)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$79,500,000$69,939,165$0$3,557,500$9,560,835
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$839,166$839,166
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 3
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 1
$4,450,000$4,450,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
$950,000$950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$2,250,000$2,250,000 (Performance Bonus$1,250,000$1M)
C
UFA - 1
$1,850,000$1,850,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$1,300,000$1,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 8
$748,333$748,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RD
UFA - 2
$950,000$950,000
G
UFA - 1
$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4

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Aug. 27, 2018 at 5:23 p.m.
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ugggghhh come on man.
Aug. 27, 2018 at 5:29 p.m.
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Those trades are impossible. Except the Schlemko one, but with all the others, you overestimate the Canadiens players by a lot. Benn is not worth a 7th and Shaw is a 5th at best.
Aug. 27, 2018 at 6:26 p.m.
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Quoting: SkatinTintin
Those trades are impossible. Except the Schlemko one, but with all the others, you overestimate the Canadiens players by a lot. Benn is not worth a 7th and Shaw is a 5th at best.


Benn was acquired for a 4th round pick and Pateryn, he is worth more than a 7th.

Shaw was acquired for two 2nd round picks, injuries have certainly lowered his value but he is still worth more than a 5th.. hes a 3rd line utility guy that can play every position, hes won cups with Chicago and made big contributions in all of there playoff appearances, and hes a great teammate / locker room guy. His contract is front loaded which also increases his value. MTL has no reason to trade him unless they get a 2nd (not saying other teams will want him for a 2nd, but MTL just has no reason to trade him).

Edit:
Also Benn should have more value than schlemko, MTL gave a 5th to get Schlemko before he was injured and had a down year, his value has only decreased since then.. how do you come up with your trade values?
Aug. 27, 2018 at 6:44 p.m.
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Just no.
Aug. 27, 2018 at 9:02 p.m.
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Been drinking?
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Aug. 27, 2018 at 9:38 p.m.
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Aug. 27, 2018 at 11:46 p.m.
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Quoting: CaptainFlynnt
Benn was acquired for a 4th round pick and Pateryn, he is worth more than a 7th.

Shaw was acquired for two 2nd round picks, injuries have certainly lowered his value but he is still worth more than a 5th.. hes a 3rd line utility guy that can play every position, hes won cups with Chicago and made big contributions in all of there playoff appearances, and hes a great teammate / locker room guy. His contract is front loaded which also increases his value. MTL has no reason to trade him unless they get a 2nd (not saying other teams will want him for a 2nd, but MTL just has no reason to trade him).

Edit:
Also Benn should have more value than schlemko, MTL gave a 5th to get Schlemko before he was injured and had a down year, his value has only decreased since then.. how do you come up with your trade values?


Shaw has more downsides than upsides. He has clear and worrying concussion problems (and that's a major problem when physicality is half your game), he's at 3,9M for 4 more years and what numbers will he pull if he gets to play 82 games? (Which he won't) 35 points? He's maybe tradeable if MTL retains half his salary, maybe with that MTL would get a 2nd round pick.

Schlemko and Benn are nearly exactly the same if you think about point per game, but Schlemko has basic puck handling skills and Benn doesn't. Jordie Benn's future is in the AHL.

Pair Benn with Weber and he'll drag him down. Pair Schlemko with Weber and they'll be able to execute basic plays.

Or find a team that urgently needs a slow 7th defenseman that knows how to do icings, then maybe you'll be able to get a 5th round pick out of him.
Aug. 28, 2018 at 12:13 a.m.
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Edited Aug. 28, 2018 at 12:19 a.m.
Quoting: SkatinTintin
Shaw has more downsides than upsides. He has clear and worrying concussion problems (and that's a major problem when physicality is half your game), he's at 3,9M for 4 more years and what numbers will he pull if he gets to play 82 games? (Which he won't) 35 points? He's maybe tradeable if MTL retains half his salary, maybe with that MTL would get a 2nd round pick.

Schlemko and Benn are nearly exactly the same if you think about point per game, but Schlemko has basic puck handling skills and Benn doesn't. Jordie Benn's future is in the AHL.

Pair Benn with Weber and he'll drag him down. Pair Schlemko with Weber and they'll be able to execute basic plays.

Or find a team that urgently needs a slow 7th defenseman that knows how to do icings, then maybe you'll be able to get a 5th round pick out of him.


When Benn is at his best he is very solid defensively, good at breaking up plays, blocking shots, passing lanes, etc. He is better than schlemko defensively and as you said they put up similar number offensively.. factor in Benn makes $1M less and doesnt have the term that Schlemko does and it's quite obvious he is better and has more trade value (this was already proven before schlemko had his injuries.. 4th and Pateryn for Benn vs a 5th for Schlemko). Schlemko has also had injuries every season of his career - no reason to expect anything different going forward.

And as I said it doesnt make sense for MTL to trade Shaw, they dont need cap space and he is a good player when he is healthy. Over the past two seasons if he played a full 82 games he projects to 35 pts and 15 goals which is respectable for a 3rd liner - one could assume he would have even more consistency if he could stay healthy and 40 pts wouldnt be out of the question, except his health is the question. Unless a team will pay up and give MTL a 2nd they are better off keeping him. Also his $$$ goes down to about $3M average for the last 3 years of his contract which makes him more affordable to teams than don't spend to the maximum salary cap.
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Aug. 28, 2018 at 12:30 a.m.
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Edited Aug. 28, 2018 at 12:38 a.m.
Quoting: CaptainFlynnt
When Benn is at his best he is very solid defensively, good at breaking up plays, blocking shots, passing lanes, etc. He is better than schlemko defensively and as you said they put up similar number offensively.. factor in Benn makes $1M less and doesnt have the term that Schlemko does and it's quite obvious he is better and has more trade value (this was already proven before schlemko had his injuries.. 4th and Pateryn for Benn vs a 5th for Schlemko).

And as I said it doesnt make sense for MTL to trade Shaw, they dont need cap space and he is a good player when he is healthy. Over the past two seasons if he played a full 82 games he projects to 35 pts and 15 goals which is respectable for a 3rd liner -
One could assume he would have even more consistency if he could stay healthy and 40 pts wouldnt be out of the question, except his health is the question. Unless a team will pay up and give MTL a 2nd they are better off keeping him.


Let's agree to disagree regarding Benn and Schlemko.

I don't care about trading Shaw either, I'm just saying no one is going to take him. I personally think he's done and will retire due to his 5 concussions in the last 2 seasons.

edit: MTL has plenty of wingers, anyway. It's not like they need Andrew Shaw.
Aug. 28, 2018 at 7:41 a.m.
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Quoting: SkatinTintin
Let's agree to disagree regarding Benn and Schlemko.

I don't care about trading Shaw either, I'm just saying no one is going to take him. I personally think he's done and will retire due to his 5 concussions in the last 2 seasons.

edit: MTL has plenty of wingers, anyway. It's not like they need Andrew Shaw.


After adding armia the habs have 3 right handed forwards, shaw is one of them and he takes a lot of right handed draws for them.. he fills a need for the time being.
 
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