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PK Becomes (more of) A Star

Created by: burla13
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Initial Creation Date: Aug. 31, 2018
Published: Sep. 1, 2018
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I am a Leafs Fan, if you think I am being biased please consider the following. 1, I am not trying to destroy the hockey world by brings PK to the Leafs, I personally think that their D is fine the way it is and in fact they will be okay if they just play the correct system.

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/165552

Please refer there to see it would be fine. That being said, lol, Dubas has shown quite obviosuly with Tavares 11 and Matthew's probably 11, you will pay for skill. PK Subban has to get paiddd 9 million for 4 more years. PK also for reasons I wish someone would explain gets on people nerves and it is seemingly happening again, with a big cap hit and a bigger personality.
This is shocking, but the Leafs have a play whi is similar to PK, But is actually younger. Jake is 28 and PK is 29. A lot of the same defsives lapses Mr. Subban has, My Gardiner also has. Now Jake, 28 would fit nicest in Nashville with Josi 28, Ellis 27, Elkholm 28. Writing it in pairs makes it even grosser becausenthisneould be the youngest and Best top 4 in the NHL.
ELKHOLM 28 ELLIS 27
JOSI 28 GARDNIER 28

Believe it or not, Nashvile gets rid of their oldest and by far most expensive Dman.
Now you are probably thinking well the Leafs would live that but what about cap. The Besury I believe is Zaitsev. Quiet NZ, who will probably have a breakout year. However is he goes with Jake, Jake expected to take less for a good team. Philly Deal 7 mil over 5 years. You and a third pair D who can play 20 mins a night. 4.5 and he just plays with Hamus (oh yeah old too pairing guy makes 1.25 and will take 1 next year.
Your bottom pair makes less than 6 while you ditch you most expensive play. You get a player almost as good as PK he just passes the puck (could get a John Carlsom 68 points in Toronto or Nashville), you get a guy who can run PP 1 because if not for Rielly he would do it with Tavares Matthew's and Nylander.
Jake is happy in a new place where she can be amazing and no one worries about his mistakes.
PK fills the leafs 1 hole, Babs can trust him now to play 28 mins.

This year
Reilly-PK
Dermott-Carrick
Hainsey-Holl (100% D-zone starts)
You can afford 9 for 4 because it isnt too long. When it's over PK IS 33 and takes a discount, or the cap is up 10 mil, he and Reilly resign together at a collective number
9 and 9
9 and 8. You can make it work.
Next year you take the approach of veteran young guy and you train the troops.
Dermott (read for 20 mins a night) PK 30 28mins
Rielly-Liljegren(rookies 15-18 mins)
Rosen-Holl/Carrick/Subban J.

This all started because I keep seeing interviews with his brother. Kyle apparently found his issue, he very well could play 4 with the marlies and play on this team. He has nothing but praise for the organization for having a different way of looking at things. I wonder if thisnLeafs team, Junior teammate of 2009 champ and Olypuc champ John Tavares qnd Auston Matthew's Nylander Marner, Zach Hyman has book and Connor Brown has skate commercials. Dubas is okay and in fact happy with marketing because it helps his cap. Hey connor take 2.1 3 years Marleaus contract is gone and then we can pay you a bit more. In the Meantime here's a little endowment money on the side.

PK would destroy the city of Toronto. He would have club nights at Drakes Club in the ACC after the game. Think about it people and if you think the value is off you have to remember the money. Nashville took on money per year PK for Subban, but clearly get the better player.
If the leafs gar more cap they would give Jake 5 x 7, but they cant and would rather wait for kids.
If you get get the ladder half of PKS carrer while Liljegren and Sandin get older. You could have a great player leading into a wealth of talent.

Last point, Jake is entering his prime, with no playoffs he is still very fresh, his last 2 years he has had hisn2 best seasons and playing offside with Josi where he can rush, make sick outlet passes and have the occasions one-timer. You get this guy and it is 2 less than you were planning with subban. With that logic Zaitsev turns from 4.5 to 2.5. So Zaitsev adds 2 5 to you cap, he is 26 (Nasvhilles literal rook, youngest, least games played)
You get 2 younger players at a cost.
If they have Zaitsev at 2.5 more to their cap for the next 6 years that is literally what they had with Ellis, who is taking only 6.25
This is where and why I think this make ethe most sense. Everyone loves Nashvilles D because they are young skilled and cheap. If they make this trade. Again if you think PK is 100x better than Jake you ar we just wrong.
This top 6 this year would be
3.75-2.5
4- Jake 4.05
Hamus 1.25- Zaitsev 4.5
18-19 20.05 mill. That's nuts

19-20
3.75-6.25
4-7
1.25-4.5
To have 6 Dmen that can play 20 mins they make 26.75. Remember, if you do the same with PK
3.75-6 25
4-9
1.25
With 5 players at 24.25 you cannot have a strong player here and if Zaisev proves to have value you could staple him on the third pair he is just reliable and who know maybe he returns to 16-17 or this past years world championship where he has 8 points in 8 games ( no one talks about this, when used correctly and healthy he is actually good)
In Nashville he would be use correctly and the coach would love him


My last thought, this fixes the leafs only weakness, this moves Nashvilles only problem. Nashville cant have Jake, if PK is there, the Leafs cant have PK if Zaitsev was there. Nashville gets younger and deeper, they are deep in the wing, at center and this makes them a player deeper at D. They are definitively the best team on the west. Jake makes great money, has a great time. The boys hangout the one trip to Nash , I think he gets 60 points and is just a star.
PK comes to TO and the same happens. The coach pushes him, he gets better and simply the leafs have their missing piece. Instead of Polak PK is getting the put and actually using it. The Leafs are the best team in the East.
I think Nash Leafs cup and honestly I dont know who wins. But Nash as been there before, probably should have won, but injuries hurt them, it would be a great series I think it goes 7 and I would love to say the Leafs take it, but Sid lost cup 1, Auston could too, the preds would deserve it, Pk Tavares Matthew's get hungrier and Hoxkey because really fun in the future.

Please be constructive here, I have been going back an forth about if to post this but the more you look at the number, you think what Jake could do with the Preds, it might be fair value simply with contracts. The press get better than even money this year and get good young years to come.

Only done with an extension, but man I think this really could happen.
Last piece Luke Fox from sportsnet was on the SDP they asked for something that people arent talking about they he really thought could happen. Again, he was just being honest, he said Subnan is traded. I think Dubas a new age GM would live the guy who raced Terrel Owen's a lot more than an older school Poile (even though Poile is the Leagues best GM I really think that, he is older school) this more gives the preds more cap flexability, PK would certainly waive his NTC for the Leafs ot would be good for their brand and his brand.

I know that was long, I apologize, but for something this big to happen in the league I think there has to be a great case made. Not just Subban yo Leafs, boom. There is some really good reasoning to this and if Dubas can turn a solid asset in Jake into a 4 year asset We get PK for 4 years they get Jake for 1 at 4 million and 5 at 7 million.
That is 2 more years for 2 million less than PK, I really think this works and if I'm Dubas I would call Nash gm and make this case.
Your thoughts.
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Sep. 1, 2018 at 1:47 p.m.
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Getting younger by one year on defence and giving up a Norris caliber defence man for Gardiner who’s a middle pair defence man on a decent defence and Zaitsev who has a terrible contract doesn’t add up..
Sep. 1, 2018 at 1:52 p.m.
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Quoting: MeLeenyk_Out
Getting younger by one year on defence and giving up a Norris caliber defence man for Gardiner who’s a middle pair defence man on a decent defence and Zaitsev who has a terrible contract doesn’t add up..


Okay and I agree but my counter would be, I think in 3 years Jake Garndier will actually have more point than PK because he has far less miles and responsibility. Jake has never been on a good team. I think 1 star is harsh because with age and cap I think I make at least a justifiable case, but that's okay. If this deal doesnt happen the leafs stay status quo and are still a top 5 team in the league. I am not a preds fan so I dont see all the little things maybe PK is twice as good as Jake. But if you have them both to get points, because Ellis is RD1 in Nash, I think Jake could fill RD2 with Roman Josi just fine. Josi who is already the best player on his pairing would get a 50 potentially 60 point player in Jake and still be the best defender on the line.
Thank you for your feedback!
Sep. 1, 2018 at 1:59 p.m.
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Just awful
Sep. 1, 2018 at 2:01 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Just awful


Why? That isnt helpful, I would like real ideas. The leafs dont need to do this. It is a cap move as much as it is for players of skill. Please explain.
Sep. 1, 2018 at 2:02 p.m.
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Why? That isnt helpful, I would like real ideas. The leafs dont need to do this. It is a cap move as much as it is for players of skill. Please explain.


You traded for a norris winner giving up a pending UFA and an over paid 3rd pairing guy
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Sep. 1, 2018 at 2:13 p.m.
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Dermott Leivo 1st And Grundström. Is what they ask no that you pissed him off
Sep. 1, 2018 at 2:16 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
You traded for a norris winner giving up a pending UFA and an over paid 3rd pairing guy


Yeah but you get 6 years of Jake Garnsier who could get 60 points for 4 years of Subban.
6 years of Jake costs you 39.05 contract over when he is 34.
For 4 years of Subban whixh would cost you 36. When he is done he is 33. You get 2 more years of a very similar player for less money. You use that to have NZ as a PK specialist (no pun intended!) And he really only coast you 2.5 and tahts for 6 years. Literally the Ellis contract because of the money. I'm not saying it'll happen dude, we are on capfriendly though and this is in fact a capfriendly deal for the Preds.
Even if you dont want to believe Jake is very good, actually look at his metrics, Ntlander scored the fastest goal in OT in NHL history because of his passes, if you watch his lightweight pack instead of his lowlight pack. He is fantastic. And the leafs cant resign him. The preds cant either unless they shed cap. This trade does both. Of Nashcille even mentions Liljegrns name I say thank you but jo thanks we'll keep Jake for a year he will be fantastic. Have unreal numbers and get a big deal.
Or Nashville makes a very logical trade and instead of the 1 for 1 wher they fleeced Montreal it is a modern day 2 for 1 and both teams get things that they really want.
Sep. 1, 2018 at 2:20 p.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Dermott Leivo 1st And Grundström. Is what they ask no that you pissed him off


Seriously. I'd do that too lol we have Sandin coming who will be better than dermoot.
You are telling me 1 roster player a healthy scratch a 4th liner and a 30th pick is better for Nashville. I make the trade right away.
Reilly-Subban
Garndier-Zaitsev
Rosen-Carrick
Then
Reilly-Subban
Rosen-Zaitsev
Liljegrn-Holl/Carrick
Sandin.

I think the first trade is better honestly.
Sep. 1, 2018 at 2:22 p.m.
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Seriously. I'd do that too lol we have Sandin coming who will be better than dermoot.
You are telling me 1 roster player a healthy scratch a 4th liner and a 30th pick is better for Nashville. I make the trade right away.
Reilly-Subban
Garndier-Zaitsev
Rosen-Carrick
Then
Reilly-Subban
Rosen-Zaitsev
Liljegrn-Holl/Carrick
Sandin.

I think the first trade is better honestly.


Then your 2020 top 4 is
Reilly-Liljegren
Sandin-Subban
Rosen-1 of the 6 players who want this job.
Sep. 1, 2018 at 2:23 p.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Dermott Leivo 1st And Grundström. Is what they ask no that you pissed him off


Actually this make sense if then in the offseasons Jake signs in Nash
Then Dermott is on the third Pair and they are still deep.
Sep. 1, 2018 at 2:37 p.m.
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why not offer hyman and brown for ovechkin while you're at it?
Sep. 1, 2018 at 2:40 p.m.
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I think this is a bit of an underpayment

not think actually know

it isn't the most realistic

but...

PK to the leafs is a good fit for PK and the leafs but the offer would have to blow nashville away

I think this should get it done

PK for Zaitsev, Nylander, 1st
Sep. 1, 2018 at 2:45 p.m.
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Seriously. I'd do that too lol we have Sandin coming who will be better than dermoot.
You are telling me 1 roster player a healthy scratch a 4th liner and a 30th pick is better for Nashville. I make the trade right away.
Reilly-Subban
Garndier-Zaitsev
Rosen-Carrick
Then
Reilly-Subban
Rosen-Zaitsev
Liljegrn-Holl/Carrick
Sandin.

I think the first trade is better honestly.


Ok then you piss Nashville off so they say you had to offer 1st, Nylander, Marner, Matthews, Sandin, Dermott, Brown, And Kapanen for PK.
Sep. 1, 2018 at 3:07 p.m.
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Quoting: habs_fan123
I think this is a bit of an underpayment

not think actually know

it isn't the most realistic

but...

PK to the leafs is a good fit for PK and the leafs but the offer would have to blow nashville away

I think this should get it done

PK for Zaitsev, Nylander, 1st


I agree in the sense that even if it is equal, thenoptics have to work and there have been so many conditional picks so like a 2nd round pick that if the Leafs make it to the conference final, it becomes a first. Like a good pick and if we are good you guys get a first.
Nashville uses pick 30 and 31 to trade up for a Dman who they like 3 years later.
Top 4 is the same.
3rd pair.
1st round pick 3 year deal 863,333 3 years, left or right shot.
Either 3rd pair lefty or 2nd pair rightt. Nash keeps getting better.
Idk I just feel like this trade make a lot of sense.
The response of the guy after you makes me think it is even more reasonable, because they really do make good trading partners. Jake might even take 6 because of tax and then you add 2 players for 10.5 instead of 1 for 9. Which is just excellent value!
Sep. 1, 2018 at 3:07 p.m.
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I agree in the sense that even if it is equal, thenoptics have to work and there have been so many conditional picks so like a 2nd round pick that if the Leafs make it to the conference final, it becomes a first. Like a good pick and if we are good you guys get a first.
Nashville uses pick 30 and 31 to trade up for a Dman who they like 3 years later.
Top 4 is the same.
3rd pair.
1st round pick 3 year deal 863,333 3 years, left or right shot.
Either 3rd pair lefty or 2nd pair rightt. Nash keeps getting better.
Idk I just feel like this trade make a lot of sense.
The response of the guy after you makes me think it is even more reasonable, because they really do make good trading partners. Jake might even take 6 because of tax and then you add 2 players for 10.5 instead of 1 for 9. Which is just excellent value!


Jake could even end up with more career points which is pretty crazy
Sep. 1, 2018 at 3:41 p.m.
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This is so funny, I'm sorry because I am a nerd. I made the teams with that one switch. With all the other changes in the league. Simmed the whole year NHL 18
Leafs 100points win the Division
Nashville 100points 2nd in the Division, 1st is GAA 2.21.
I'll let you know who wins the cup.
No playing just simming.
Sep. 1, 2018 at 5:01 p.m.
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PK would destroy the city of Toronto. He would have club nights at Drakes Club in the ACC after the game. Isn't that reason the Leafs DON'T want Subban.
Sep. 1, 2018 at 5:10 p.m.
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PK would destroy the city of Toronto. He would have club nights at Drakes Club in the ACC after the game. Isn't that reason the Leafs DON'T want Subban.


The team is so good. That's the point man, sell things make money, your your players, win with bringing in 1 or 2 marlies each year. Like the more money the league makes, the more the cap goes up, the more guys the Leafs can pay. The better they become.
I cant think about it because it makes me too excited.
Sep. 1, 2018 at 5:12 p.m.
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The team is so good. That's the point man, sell things make money, your your players, win with bringing in 1 or 2 marlies each year. Like the more money the league makes, the more the cap goes up, the more guys the Leafs can pay. The better they become.
I cant think about it because it makes me too excited.


Think of how much money the League made with Vegas in the final. Imagine Leafs Nashville. Omg you would get all of Canada + a good American market. League makes money cap goes up. PK and The rest of the team would be doing really well
Sep. 1, 2018 at 6:37 p.m.
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The team is so good. That's the point man, sell things make money, your your players, win with bringing in 1 or 2 marlies each year. Like the more money the league makes, the more the cap goes up, the more guys the Leafs can pay. The better they become.
I can't think about because it makes me too excited

Since the revenue is split 31 way, the cap doesn't go up that much even if the do better. That last sentence, " I can't think about it because it makes me too excited". Thought the minimum age to be on this site was 18 not 13happy .
Sep. 1, 2018 at 7:11 p.m.
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Well, I'm sorry dude. I'm 25 and my team has never won. If they did I would feel like I'm 13 haha.
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Sep. 2, 2018 at 6:32 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
You traded for a norris winner giving up a pending UFA and an over paid 3rd pairing guy


He's right and thats enough reason. Nash is not trading PK like he's some average hockey player that can be swapped straight up like that... oh wait... unless your name is Bergevin.
Sep. 2, 2018 at 9:38 a.m.
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He's right and thats enough reason. Nash is not trading PK like he's some average hockey player that can be swapped straight up like that... oh wait... unless your name is Bergevin.


Well my first point would be your arent trading for nothing. Jake would be a star in Nashville because he makes electric plays. As Steve Dangle says he does things no other guy can do. Then he turns the puck over and gets scored on, we in toronto watxh that 40 times and get mad instead of the slick passes he makes for plays (watch nylanders OT winner against Chicago)
But if you dont like Jake I think Ottawa can Help. Send EK to Nash for PK and a prospect
EK has 518 points in 627 games.
PK 377 in 582. Ek ials younger

We all love PK but just like Duchene is better than Turris as sad as that all turned out, Karlsson is better than Subban.
If you disagree I would like to know when Subban was a top 5 player in the world like EK was in 17 playoffs when Ottawa could have won the cup.
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/849727
Sep. 2, 2018 at 10:04 a.m.
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Well my first point would be your arent trading for nothing. Jake would be a star in Nashville because he makes electric plays. As Steve Dangle says he does things no other guy can do. Then he turns the puck over and gets scored on, we in toronto watxh that 40 times and get mad instead of the slick passes he makes for plays (watch nylanders OT winner against Chicago)
But if you dont like Jake I think Ottawa can Help. Send EK to Nash for PK and a prospect
EK has 518 points in 627 games.
PK 377 in 582. Ek ials younger


We all love PK but just like Duchene is better than Turris as sad as that all turned out, Karlsson is better than Subban.
If you disagree I would like to know when Subban was a top 5 player in the world like EK was in 17 playoffs when Ottawa could have won the cup.
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/849727


Do the math bud before you post a stat that exactly proves my point lol
 
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