Nylander alone is worth much more than Tuch and Miller..

Nylander is easily more valuable than both Miller and Tuch combined... No doubt about it

no what why just stop no why what?

I think Miller is capable of being top pair D man and he is super affordable.

That's why I think it should Nylander+.

Wow, you guys seriously overvalue your players.

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^ See, I can play that dumb game too.

Dude, he is not "easily" better than both combined, and yes, there IS doubt.

Welcome to Toronto fans

We dont, we just know how good Nylander really is and that package which would send 2 fringe NHLers, 1st rounder and other pick plus incredibly talented forward for middle-6 winger and not-a-top-pairing RHD with one good season is bs..

But you didn't say all that. You just said that Nylander is better than both combined, which is also BS. Big time BS.

Not winning a playoff round for 15 years skews one's evaluation abilities.

No its not BS. Nylander is player that has similar point totals as 22yr old to Kucherov and similar style. He would develop into superstar this year or next year just watch. He hasnt showed full potential yet and he has 2 60+point season in range of his ELC.. similar to Kuch.. Not saying he is Kuch, but his potential is that high. Value a little lesser but still not Miller and Tuch..

Yes, it is absolutely BS, but I'm not going to waste any more time trying to argue with blind homers.

Nylander has better ppg avg than Kucherov at age 22.. 0.72 to 0.706 which is small difference but still, Kuch was on SC favourite team, Nylander not.. Im not a blind homer, putting in facts, you know that word fact right?.. Miller had ONE good season and Tuch is very good, but combined not Nylander at all.. Nylander is on another level. And Im the most realistic Leafs fan.. if other team had Nylander I would say the exact same thing ffs.. but yeah, Im blind.. lol

Damn.. you mispelled Seth Jones for Miller before typing Nylander+1st rounder..

Actually not a bad trade. Miller has only had one good season, last year, so we'll see what his actual long term form is. I don't think Vegas does the deal. Tuch and Miller are NHLers and they only get one back in return, Nylander.

I cannot see the Leafs including their 1st round pick from any year as part of a deal, regardless of how competitive they were or how high they were in the standings. Additionally, that Vegas team played well above their means last season. Like seriously, basically the entire team had career years. I would like to see what year 2 brings before the Leafs start giving up pieces that may fall back to earth pretty fast. I am not saying Miller and Tuch aren't good players, but they may not be as good as they showed for much of last season.

This is what getting out there on CapFriendly is all about. Present some ideas. If you're discouraged by some of the Toronto fans' comments, note that you got a positive one from one of the best (palhal). As for my personal opinion, as a fan of BOTH teams, I can see how it could work out to both's advantage. If Miller and Tuch are the real thing, then the Maple Leafs are fine. If Nylander is the real thing, then Las Vegas is fine. What's in everybody's subconscious is the Martin Erat-for-Filip Forsberg trade, which is what the Toronto fans are worried about.

Some of us Toronto guys do. SOME.

All of which is true, but I'd like to offer a different perspective on first-round picks. Toronto signed John Tavares in the off-season and has Matthews, Marner, Kadri and Rielly, all stars, plus might-be-stars like Kapanen, Liljegren, Johnsson and Dermott (not to mention Nylander because he's in this trade). The Maple Leafs don't need any more stars (i.e., successful first-round home runs); they need a supporting staff. They don't need to draft a Cam Fowler; they need to draft two guys like Jake Muzzin and Brandon Montour. Trading away first-round picks should be seen as the price of having signed Tavares.

But if the Leafs are really trying to build sustainable growth and success for long-term, they still need to draft well and having your 1st rounders obviously helps quite a bit. It doesn't have to be a home run by any means. Remember, all ELC deals are exempt from expansion drafts, so it would actually be in the Leafs interest to acquire and develop players/prospects that Seattle cannot obtain, similar to how well positioned the Leafs were in the Vegas draft.

So I'm assuming that means that Dermott doesn't have to be protected (along with Liljegren and Sandin), which in turn means that either Ozhiganov or Carrick will be exposed (unless Zaitsev has two awful years or gets traded). The rest of the core remains. It's a pretty nice position to be in.

Trade fills both teams needs. Toronto needs to watch Miller a little more