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(SJS / OTT) - Karlsson, Perron for Tierney, DeMelo, Norris, Balcers & picks

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Sep 13, 2018 at 2:44
#1
A trade between San Jose Sharks and Ottawa Senators has been confirmed.
Trade Details
Ottawa Senators Acquire:
Ottawa Senators
Joshua Norris (Signing Rights)
2020 conditional 1st round pick* (SJS)
2021 conditional 2nd round pick** (SJS)
2019 conditional 2nd round pick*** (FLA)
conditional 1st round pick****

****Sens receive a 1st round pick from the Sharks (no later than 2022) if Karlsson is on an Eastern Conference roster (reserve list) during the 2018-19 season.
*Conditions: Ottawa receives Sharks 2019 1st round pick if Sharks do not make the playoffs. If Sharks make the playoffs, Ottawa receives Sharks 2020 1st.
*Result: Sharks made the 2019 playoffs, Ottawa receives Sharks 2020 1st round pick
**Conditions: Sens receive Sharks 2021 2nd round pick if Karlsson is re-signed. The selection upgrades to a 2021 1st if Sharks reach the Stanley Cup final in 2019.
***Conditions: 2019 2nd round pick is the higher of the two picks the Sharks currently own: Panthers and their own.
Result: Ottawa will receive Panthers 2019 2nd round pick.
Sep 13, 2018 at 2:45
#2
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH

How does Wilson keep doing this?
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Sep 13, 2018 at 2:47
#3
#DisruptTheNight
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THE PICKS ARE ALL CONDITIONAL
Sep 13, 2018 at 2:48
#4
Martin Erat's Lawyer
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How did Ottawa not get at least Merkley out of this?
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Sep 13, 2018 at 2:49
#5
CSickmann
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Winner? Loser? This is a no brainer.

What is the condition? If Melnyk leaves they get the picks and this clownshow can finally end?

That Sharks Blue Line now. Sweet Jesus!
Sep 13, 2018 at 2:49
#6
MountRoyal514
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And the Avs are even better positioned to draft Jack Hughes next year now, and they don't even have to lose for him ...
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Sep 13, 2018 at 2:49
#7
Point for Hart
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Condition for one of the 1sts: If Karlsson plays for an Eastern Conference team, Ottawa gets another 1st. Pathetic. Dorion is a ****ing idiot.
Sep 13, 2018 at 2:51
#8
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Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
How did Ottawa not get at least Merkley out of this?


No Merkley, no Meier, no LeBanc. They got a 3rd line center, a college player who could choose not to sign there, and a few picks. Yeesh
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Sep 13, 2018 at 2:52
#9
Go Jets Go!
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Hard to say that Sharks aren't the CLEAR winners here haha.
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Sep 13, 2018 at 2:53
#10
Pens Fan
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Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
How did Ottawa not get at least Merkley out of this?


Because of their "commitment to leadership." neutral
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Sep 13, 2018 at 2:54
#11
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Ottawa did get SJ's 2017 1st round selection, a 2020 1st round pick, a 2019 2nd round pick, and a potential 2021 2nd rounder. All for a guy, regardless of how great he is, who only has 1 year left on his contract. I would say Ottawa got a pretty good return, given that there is no guarantee Karlsson will sign with SJ long term (or any other team for that matter, with the exception of maybe TB.) If SJ ends up winning a cup because of this, then it was clearly a great trade for them, but that is a big IF.
Sep 13, 2018 at 2:55
#12
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Whoever voted fair deal has to be a delusional Sens fan.
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Sep 13, 2018 at 2:56
#13
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Embarassing for OTT
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Sep 13, 2018 at 2:56
#14
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And the winner of the day... Colorado Avalanche with the biggest chance to get Hugues next year.
Sep 13, 2018 at 3:00
#15
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Wow that is an atrocious deal for OTT
Sep 13, 2018 at 3:00
#16
Jets
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If if there is no extension, this is a farcical return for OTT franchise player. I genuinely feel bad for Sens fans at this point, their franchise is one gigantic tire fire.
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Sep 13, 2018 at 3:02
#17
Lets go bolts!
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*Steve dangle voice* sens fans if I were you. . . Find the nearest LCBO.
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Sep 13, 2018 at 3:02
#18
Caps GM v3
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This is a franchise altering type trade. Dorion whiffed on it. He traded the best player the franchise has ever had, for what? I'm higher on Josh Norris than most are, but he probably maxes out as a 2C. Balcers is nice, but he's a complementary piece. Tierney and Demelo are just roster players that they don't need. They got a 2020 1st, when they still don't have a 2019 1st. Two more picks are nice, but the chances any of this becomes worth just 1 season of Erik Karlsson is nuts.

Dorion has whiffed on two huge trades for this franchise, and it's left them in a hell hole. He now has my distinction as the worst GM in the game right now. The worst roster in the game and no first round pick or elite prospects to show for it.
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Sep 13, 2018 at 3:08
#19
Senstacular
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I'm sad.... legit sad... no excitement at all for the upcoming year...
Sep 13, 2018 at 3:11
#20
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Can't wait to see how Dorion handles trading Duchene and Stone lol. Feel bad for Sens fans though.
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Sep 13, 2018 at 3:21
#21
fence
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This will go down as maybe the worst trade of all time.
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Sep 13, 2018 at 3:40
#22
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How do you get less for Karlsson than what you gave up for duchene
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Sep 13, 2018 at 3:46
#23
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Quoting: krakowitz
This is a franchise altering type trade. Dorion whiffed on it. He traded the best player the franchise has ever had, for what? I'm higher on Josh Norris than most are, but he probably maxes out as a 2C. Balcers is nice, but he's a complementary piece. Tierney and Demelo are just roster players that they don't need. They got a 2020 1st, when they still don't have a 2019 1st. Two more picks are nice, but the chances any of this becomes worth just 1 season of Erik Karlsson is nuts.

Dorion has whiffed on two huge trades for this franchise, and it's left them in a hell hole. He now has my distinction as the worst GM in the game right now. The worst roster in the game and no first round pick or elite prospects to show for it.


I'm agreeing with you on most things, but they got some prospects... Chabot made the jump last year and is now automatically the number 1 in Ottawa pretty much, there's Tkatchuk, Brown, White, Formenton, Batherson, Luchuk, and now Norris. Defence prospects are slim beyond Bernard-Docker though.
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Sep 13, 2018 at 3:55
#24
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Pacioretty got a better return lmao
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Sep 13, 2018 at 3:59
#25
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