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Price to STL...again

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Team: 2018-19 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 15, 2018
Published: Sep. 15, 2018
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MTL
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  1. Price, Carey ($3,000,000 retained)
2.
MTL
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (VGK)
VGK
  1. Bouwmeester, Jay ($2,700,000 retained)
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
27$79,500,000$72,746,308$0$2,215,000$6,753,692
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 3
$1,850,000$1,850,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
$2,250,000$2,250,000 (Performance Bonus$1,250,000$1M)
C
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$175,000$175K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,166,667$1,166,667
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,300,000$1,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
$950,000$950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$900,000$900,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
$839,166$839,166
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$758,333$758,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
RW
UFA - 3
$650,000$650,000
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UFA - 1
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$4,625,000$4,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 8
$2,100,000$2,100,000
LD
UFA - 2
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
$950,000$950,000
G
UFA - 1
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RD
UFA - 2
$4,350,000$4,350,000
G
UFA - 3
$748,333$748,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
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UFA - 1

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Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:13 p.m.
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NOT WORTH IT PRICE IS PRICE FOR REASON AND HIS NOT GOING ANYWHERE
Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:17 p.m.
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Quoting: MakingHistory
NOT WORTH IT PRICE IS PRICE FOR REASON AND HIS NOT GOING ANYWHERE


I get the impression you're very emotionally invested in Price...
Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:19 p.m.
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I just don't think Price is tradable. He's coming off an awful season and starting a 10 million dollar contract this year. He's also dealt with injuries his entire career. I don't think Price will fetch anything you want on the trade maket. That being said, Price is the best goalie in the league and trading him for a return you don't want is criminal. For these reasons I think Price retires a Hab.
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Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:19 p.m.
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I'd trade Weber before Price. Plus he dosen't have NMC so it would be easier
Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:21 p.m.
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I'd trade Weber before Price. Plus he dosen't have NMC so it would be easier


Both of them are not going anywhere
Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:22 p.m.
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Quoting: MakingHistory
Both of them are not going anywhere


and why is that? Phaneuf got traded twice, surely we can find a way to trade Weber.
Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:24 p.m.
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Quoting: STLBlues17
I just don't think Price is tradable. He's coming off an awful season and starting a 10 million dollar contract this year. He's also dealt with injuries his entire career. I don't think Price will fetch anything you want on the trade maket. That being said, Price is the best goalie in the league and trading him for a return you don't want is criminal. For these reasons I think Price retires a Hab.


Price ALONE can bring me to the playoffs, but he can't bring me a cup. Does Armstrong make this trade?
Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:26 p.m.
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and why is that? Phaneuf got traded twice, surely we can find a way to trade Weber.


Weber and Price are both Corner stones to elite hockey team you can't basic off injury's
Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:27 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Architect
Price ALONE can bring me to the playoffs, but he can't bring me a cup. Does Armstrong make this trade?


As a Blues fan I would accept this trade, but my point is that this is a lame return, but probably the best that Price can get. If this is all Price gets you, than I think they should just keep him.
Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:28 p.m.
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If Bergevin traded Price, that would be the straw that broke the Camel's back.
I think for this trade to go through though, STL would have to add a prospect like Erik Foley or Klim Kostin. Good work though!
Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:29 p.m.
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and why is that? Phaneuf got traded twice, surely we can find a way to trade Weber.


Forget the Phaneuf example. Habs are projected to finish near the bottom. What's the point of keeping either 1 of them, when they can still bring in a good return if traded, and simultaneously increase our chances at #1 OAP?
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Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:31 p.m.
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Weber and Price are both Corner stones to elite hockey team you can't basic off injury's


oh jeez you really believe Weber is an elite d-man...smh. We aren't in 2012 anymore i fear.
Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:32 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Architect
Forget the Phaneuf example. Habs are projected to finish near the bottom. What's the point of keeping either 1 of them, when they can still bring in a good return if traded, and simultaneously increase our chances at #1 OAP?


Yea well i hope someone somewhere will be dumb enough to give us a decent returnfor Weber's atrocious contract without making us retain salary
Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:34 p.m.
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oh jeez you really believe Weber is an elite d-man...smh. We aren't in 2012 anymore i fear.


what fool Weber is Weber shut down defense men he not a moving puck defense men. Just needs good partner.
Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:37 p.m.
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what fool Weber is Weber shut down defense men he not a moving puck defense men. Just needs good partner.


and in today's NHL having a 33 years old injury-prone slow moving shutdown d-man is really the trend...Hell i like Petry better.
Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:38 p.m.
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As a Blues fan I would accept this trade, but my point is that this is a lame return, but probably the best that Price can get. If this is all Price gets you, than I think they should just keep him.


Like i mentioned to the other poster, MTL is rebuilding. They won't be relevant for the next 3-4 yrs. Price at 35 won't make sense to MTL. Getting something in return does. If you think Price is worth more than what I'm asking, there can always be future conditions included in the deal. Price in STL could mean dynasty for the next 5 yrs.
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Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:41 p.m.
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Yea well i hope someone somewhere will be dumb enough to give us a decent returnfor Weber's atrocious contract without making us retain salary


So what if we retain salary? We got the cap space
Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:41 p.m.
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Like i mentioned to the other poster, MTL is rebuilding. They won't be relevant for the next 3-4 yrs. Price at 35 won't make sense to MTL. Getting something in return does. If you think Price is worth more than what I'm asking, there can always be future conditions included in the deal. Price in STL could mean dynasty for the next 5 yrs.


Quoting: The_Architect
Like i mentioned to the other poster, MTL is rebuilding. They won't be relevant for the next 3-4 yrs. Price at 35 won't make sense to MTL. Getting something in return does. If you think Price is worth more than what I'm asking, there can always be future conditions included in the deal. Price in STL could mean dynasty for the next 5 yrs.


Yes I know last season and this season are not going look good but 2019 We are going be playoff team.
Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:42 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Architect
Like i mentioned to the other poster, MTL is rebuilding. They won't be relevant for the next 3-4 yrs. Price at 35 won't make sense to MTL. Getting something in return does. If you think Price is worth more than what I'm asking, there can always be future conditions included in the deal. Price in STL could mean dynasty for the next 5 yrs.

I think this is a realistic Price deal and shows his value, but I don't understand trading the best goalie in the world for a return that isn't that good.
Sep. 15, 2018 at 8:55 p.m.
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Wew this thread is nutty. Price and Weber are not going anywhere, period. We took Weber specifically so that he would retire as a Montreal canadian. If you look at habs prospects we've planned to draft players to eventually grow to replace them when they get older.

Weber is a vet, but his skill set and his strengths are going to regress at a slower pace then others. I'd say he has a career into his 40s, same with Price.

They are the leaders of this team, and yes, if we're honestly planning a rebuild, we should look to move them for young players, but at the end of the day Price has played the most games as our goalie then any other franchise goalie Montreal has ever had. We're going to retire his jersey for sure, and in 10 years time you'll see a whole generation of players who geared their game to match Webers and Prices.

Also, Montreal is not rebuilding. They won't need 3-4 years to be competitive again. A healthy Price and Weber already makes us a playoff team. and besides those two most of Montreal is under 25 years old. We're "building for the future" according to GMMB. And I'm happy with it.

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So what if we retain salary? We got the cap space


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and in today's NHL having a 33 years old injury-prone slow moving shutdown d-man is really the trend...Hell i like Petry better.
Sep. 15, 2018 at 9:06 p.m.
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I think this is a realistic Price deal and shows his value, but I don't understand trading the best goalie in the world for a return that isn't that good.


I'm not planning to keeping Allen. There's a few good teams that could use an upgrade in goal e.g FLA (easily I get a 1st ++ if I take Luongo off their hands), PHI ( I can get a 1st for sure if I take Elliot back, and by the time Allen's contract is up, Carter Hart will be ready).

So now I got 2 1st rnd picks (STL + FLA or PHI) , a 2nd (VGK) and Kyrou in the bank. And my gut tells me I can get more. That is better than 8 yrs of a Price that was all for nothing.
Sep. 15, 2018 at 9:21 p.m.
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Wew this thread is nutty. Price and Weber are not going anywhere, period. We took Weber specifically so that he would retire as a Montreal canadian. If you look at habs prospects we've planned to draft players to eventually grow to replace them when they get older.

Weber is a vet, but his skill set and his strengths are going to regress at a slower pace then others. I'd say he has a career into his 40s, same with Price.

They are the leaders of this team, and yes, if we're honestly planning a rebuild, we should look to move them for young players, but at the end of the day Price has played the most games as our goalie then any other franchise goalie Montreal has ever had. We're going to retire his jersey for sure, and in 10 years time you'll see a whole generation of players who geared their game to match Webers and Prices.

Also, Montreal is not rebuilding. They won't need 3-4 years to be competitive again. A healthy Price and Weber already makes us a playoff team. and besides those two most of Montreal is under 25 years old. We're "building for the future" according to GMMB. And I'm happy with it.


I don't care if we're a playoff team in 3-4 yrs. That's not good enough. If Price and Weber are on board with that cap hit, I want "cup contender status" in 3-4 yrs. but that would sound unrealistic, that's why you were very careful by using the word "competitive". Which it could mean different things. But assuming both of them will be effective till their 40's, that's unrealistic and too big a gamble. If I see regretion in 5 yrs when Price is 35, what the heck do I do with him and a contract that will definitely be untradable even if I retained half the cap/salary?
Sep. 15, 2018 at 9:24 p.m.
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I don't care if we're a playoff team in 3-4 yrs. That's not good enough. If Price and Weber are on board with that cap hit, I want "cup contender status" in 3-4 yrs. but that would sound unrealistic, that's why you were very careful by using the word "competitive". Which it could mean different things. But assuming both of them will be effective till their 40's, that's unrealistic and too big a gamble. If I see regretion in 5 yrs when Price is 35, what the heck do I do with him and a contract that will definitely be untradable even if I retained half the cap/salary?


You deal with it cause Price is a montreal legend, and we don't **** around with our legends too often.
Sep. 15, 2018 at 9:38 p.m.
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You deal with it cause Price is a montreal legend, and we don't **** around with our legends too often.


This is the business of winning cups, goalies don't win cups, good teams win cups. And if it means trading Price to get the pieces in order to be a constant contender, so be it. If Gretzky can be traded, then everyone can be traded.
 
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