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GM Game v3 - Washington Capitals - SAMSONOV MUST GO

Created by: krakowitz
Initial Creation Date: Sep 17, 2018
Published: Sep 17, 2018 at 5:14 pm
Team: 2018-19 Washington Capitals
Team Explanation
MISSION — OVI NEEDS MORE CUPS THAN CROSBY

TRADE TRACKER
Offseason - 7/12
September - 1/4
October - 3/4
November - 0/4
December - 2/4
January - 2/4
February - 3/4
March - 0/8

Contracts: 42/50
50 exempt contracts: 0
Reserve List: 55/90

??? ICE CREW ???
Kate Upton, Scarlet Johansson (Avengers style), Kylie Jenner (pre-pregnancy), Jessica Alba, Anna Kendrick, Jennifer Lopez, Beyoncé, Mila Kunis, Gigi Hadid and Jennifer Lawrence


Head Coach - Barry Trotz
Assistant Coaches - Todd Reirden, Lane Lambert, Blaine Forsythe



GM - krakowitz

UNDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES UNTOUCHABLE (don't waste your time asking)
Shane Gersich
Evgeny Kuznetsov
Christian Djoos
Nicklas Backstrom
Alex Debrincat
Tomas Hertl
Jakub Vrana

MASSIVE OVERPAY REQUIRED (not interested in moving)
Alex Ovechkin
Braden Holtby
John Carlson
Timothy Jimothy Oshie
Evgeni Dadonov
Anton Stralman
Samuel Girard
Ilya Samsonov

FOR THE RIGHT PRICE (more willing to listen on these guys)
Mats Zuccarello
Charlie Coyle
Robert Hägg
Nick Cousins
Tomas Nosek
All other prospects


ON THE BLOCK
All Prospects
All draft picks



TEAM NEEDS
Any sort of upgrade


RE-SIGNINGS
John Carlson - $7.3M AAV x 8 years, NMC (Years 1-3), NTC (Years 4-7), No protection (Year 8)
Madison Bowey - $800K AAV x 1 year
Travis Boyd - $750K AAV x 2 years
Riley Barber - $750K AAV x 2 years
Tom Wilson - $3.5M AAV x 4 years
Alex Petrovic - $1.75M AAV x 2 years


UFA Signings
Mark Letestu - $1.6M AAV x 2 years (voided due to signing a PTO)
Mario Kempe - $675K AAV x 3 years
Tomas Nosek - $925K AAV x 3 years
Tomas Hyka - $925K x 3 years
Dakota Mermis - $675K x 3 years

Jersey Numbers
Charlie Coyle - 3
Rod Langway - 5 (retired)
Anton Stralman - 6
Yvon Labre - 7 (retired)
Alex Ovechkin - 8
Mike Gartner - 11 (retired)
Peter Bondra - 12 (retired)
Jakub Vrana - 13
Nicklas Backstrom - 19
Alex Debrincat - 21
Nick Cousins - 25
Christian Djoos - 29
Ilya Samsonov - 30 (not currently in NHL)
Dale Hunter - 32 (retired)
Petr Mrazek - 34
Mats Zuccarello - 36
Olaf Kolzig - 37 (retired)
Tomas Hertl - 48
Samuel Girard - 49
Julius Honka - 60
Evgeni Dadonov - 63
Braden Holtby - 70
John Carlson - 74
T.J. Oshie - 77
Robert Hägg - 80
Evgeny Kuznetsov - 92
Tomas Nosek - 93

2018 Draft Picks
1st Round — Rasmus Sandin, Dominik Bokk
2nd Round — Jacob Bernard-Docker
3rd Round — Ryan O’Reilly
4th Round — Kyle Topping
7th Round — Jett Alexander, Liam Kindree


PROSPECT RANKINGS
Shane Gersich - whatever is higher than A+++++++++
Ilya Samsonov - A++
Nils Lundkvist - A
Ryan O’Reilly - B
Kyle Topping - B-
Tobias Geisser - B-
Riley Barber - B-
Travis Boyd - B-
Maxim Mamin - B-
Dakota Mermis - C+
Jett Alexander - C+
Liam Kindree - C+
Damien Riat - C+
Kris Bindulos - C+
Juuso Ikonen - C+
Dmitri Zaitsev - C+
Max Kamerrer - C
Tyler Lewington - C
Colby Williams - C
Everybody else is irrelevant


IN THE MINORS
Tomas Hyka
Mario Kempe
Juuso Ikonen
Hampus Gustafsson
Riley Barber
Maximillian Kamerrer
Mason Mitchell
Beck Malenstyn
Mattias Bau
Dakota Mermis
Tyler Lewington
Colby Williams
Aaron Ness
Tobias Geisser
Kris Bindulis
Ilya Samsonov



PLAYER RIGHTS OWNED
Jett Alexander, G, North York (OJHL) (Jun. 1, 2020, extends 4 years once he goes to college)
Peter Guggisberg, RW, Ambri-Piotta (Swiss NLA) (Indefinite)
Garrett Harr, D, Utah (ECHL) (Indefinite)
Liam Kindree, RW, Kelowna (WHL) (Jun. 1, 2020)
Nils Lundkvist, D, Lulea HF (SHL) (Jun. 1, 2022)
Benton Maass, D, Univ. of New Hampshire (NCAA) (Aug. 15, 2021)
Ryan O’Reilly, C, Univ. of Denver (NCAA) (Aug. 15, 2022)
Damien Riat, C, Geneve-Servette (Swiss NLA) (Indefinite)
Kristian Røykås Marthinsen, LW, Almtuna (Allsvenskan) (Jun. 1, 2021)
Steven Spinner, RW, Univ. of Nebraska-Omaha (NCAA) (Aug. 15, 2019)
Kyle Topping, C, Kelowna (WHL) (Jun. 1, 2020)
Sebastian Walfridsson, D, MODO (Allsvenskan) (Jun. 1, 2021)


?????????????????
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Carlson, John8$7,300,000
Wilson, Tom4$3,500,000
Petrovic, Alex2$1,750,000
Bowey, Madison1$800,000
Kempe, Mario3$675,000
Mermis, Dakota3$675,000
Hyka, Tomas3$925,000
Boyd, Travis2$750,000
Walker, Nathan1$650,000
Edler, Alexander1$1,250,000
Trades
WSH
    Players signed after game start
    SJS
    1. Orpik, Brooks
    2. Kempný, Michal
    3. Fehérváry, Martin
    4. Bowey, Madison
    5. Carlson, John
    6. Sgarbossa, Michael
    7. Dowd, Nic
    8. Boyd, Travis
    9. Wilson, Tom
    10. Smith-Pelly, Devante
    11. Megna, Jayson
    12. Shumakov, Sergei
    WSH
    1. 2019 6th round pick (WSH)
    VAN
      Reverting IRL trade
      WSH
      1. Chlapik, Filip
      2. 2019 4th round pick (OTT)
      Additional Details:
      2018 1st round pick (PIT)
      OTT
      1. Connolly, Brett
      Additional Details:
      RFA rights to Philipp Grubauer
      WSH
        Future Considerations
        ARI
        1. 2019 3rd round pick (WSH)
        Brooks Orpik
        WSH
          RFA rights to Alex Petrovic
          FLA
          1. 2020 3rd round pick (WSH)
          2. 2019 4th round pick (WSH)
          WSH
          1. Brodin, Jonas
          MIN
          1. Chlapik, Filip
          2. Johansen, Lucas
          WSH
            2018 1st round pick (PIT)
            ANA
            1. 2020 6th round pick (WSH)
            2018 1st round pick (WSH)
            2018 6th round pick (WSH)
            RFA rights to Devante Smith-Pelly
            WSH
            1. Carter, Jeff ($1,000,000 retained)
            2. 2019 5th round pick (LAK)
            3. 2019 7th round pick (LAK)
            LAK
            1. Burakovsky, André
            2. Siegenthaler, Jonas
            3. 2019 2nd round pick (WSH)
            WSH
            1. Cousins, Nick
            ARI
            1. 2019 4th round pick (OTT)
            WSH
            1. Hjalmarsson, Niklas
            ARI
            1. 2020 2nd round pick (WSH)
            rights to Jacob Bernard-Docker
            WSH
            1. Eriksson Ek, Joel
            2. Stalock, Alex
            Additional Details:
            rights to Andrei Svetlakov
            MIN
            1. Niskanen, Matt
            2. 2020 5th round pick (WSH)
            WSH
            1. Dadonov, Evgeni
            FLA
            1. Wilson, Tom
            2. Walker, Nathan
            3. Copley, Pheonix
            4. Pinho, Brian
            5. 2021 2nd round pick (WSH)
            6. 2021 3rd round pick (WSH)
            WSH
              2018 7th round pick (MTL)
              VAN
              1. 2020 7th round pick (WSH)
              WSH
              1. Strålman, Anton ($1,250,000 retained)
              Additional Details:
              TRADE w/ FLORIDA
              TBL
              1. Hjalmarsson, Niklas
              2. 2019 6th round pick (WSH)
              Additional Details:
              rights to Andrei Svetlakov
              WSH
              1. Coyle, Charlie
              Additional Details:
              TRADE w/ OTTAWA
              MIN
              1. Pilon, Garrett
              2. 2020 1st round pick (WSH)
              3. 2020 4th round pick (WSH)
              WSH
                Nathan Walker
                FLA
                  Claimed off of waivers
                  WSH
                    waiver claim
                    FLA
                    1. Walker, Nathan
                    WSH
                    1. Hertl, Tomas ($825,000 retained)
                    Additional Details:
                    Salary retention is to match in game cap hit
                    SJS
                    1. Eller, Lars
                    2. Bowey, Madison
                    3. 2019 7th round pick (WSH)
                    4. 2019 7th round pick (LAK)
                    Additional Details:
                    TRADE w/ Panthers
                    WSH
                    1. Bajkov, Patrick
                    2. Schemitsch, Thomas
                    FLA
                      included in above deal
                      WSH
                      1. Hägg, Robert
                      Additional Details:
                      TRADE w/ NJD
                      PHI
                      1. Vanecek, Vitek
                      2. Petrovic, Alex
                      WSH
                      1. Mrázek, Petr ($500,000 retained)
                      Additional Details:
                      Retention is to match in game cap hit
                      CAR
                      1. Stalock, Alex
                      2. 2021 4th round pick (WSH)
                      3. 2021 7th round pick (WSH)
                      Additional Details:
                      Trade w/ Florida
                      WSH
                      1. Girard, Samuel
                      Additional Details:
                      rights to Rasmus Sandin
                      COL
                      1. Brodin, Jonas
                      2. Jonsson-Fjällby, Axel
                      WSH
                      1. Harrington, Scott
                      CBJ
                      1. Lewington, Tyler
                      2. 2019 5th round pick (LAK)
                      WSH
                      1. 2019 1st round pick (PIT)
                      Daniel Sprong
                      PIT
                      1. Carter, Jeff
                      2. Hobbs, Connor
                      WSH
                      1. Sprong, Daniel
                      ANA
                        WSH
                        1. Zuccarello, Mats
                        Additional Details:
                        Maxim Mamin, 2021 7th round pick (WSH)

                        trade w/ FLA
                        NYR
                        1. Eriksson Ek, Joel
                        2. Stephenson, Chandler
                        3. 2021 6th round pick (WSH)
                        Additional Details:
                        rights to Chase Priskie
                        WSH
                        1. Mamin, Maxim
                        FLA
                          WSH
                          1. DeBrincat, Alex
                          Additional Details:
                          2019 2nd round pick (TOR)

                          trade w/ Winnipeg
                          CHI
                          1. Sprong, Daniel
                          2. 2019 1st round pick (WSH)
                          Additional Details:
                          rights to Dominik Bokk
                          WSH
                          1. 2019 2nd round pick (TOR)
                          TOR
                            WSH
                            1. Honka, Julius
                            2. 2019 4th round pick (DAL)
                            Additional Details:
                            rights to Nils Lundkvist
                            2019 7th round pick (DAL)
                            DAL
                            1. Orlov, Dmitry
                            WSH
                            1. 2019 7th round pick (DAL)
                            TOR
                              WSH
                              1. Johansson, Marcus
                              Additional Details:
                              trade w/ Colorado
                              BOS
                              1. 2019 2nd round pick (TOR)
                              WSH
                              1. Fulcher, Kaden
                              Additional Details:
                              Grabner, Edler
                              DET
                              1. Coyle, Charlie
                              2. Boyd, Travis
                              3. 2019 4th round pick (DAL)
                              WSH
                              1. Grabner, Michael ($1,125,000 retained)
                              Additional Details:
                              retention to match in game cap hit
                              ARI
                                WSH
                                1. Nosek, Tomas ($37,500 retained)
                                Additional Details:
                                Just wanted the little logo on my team
                                VGK
                                  DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
                                  2018
                                  2019
                                  PIT
                                  DAL
                                  2020
                                  2021
                                  WSH
                                  WSH
                                  ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
                                  23$80,000,000$73,329,293$82,500$1,415,000$6,670,707

                                  Roster

                                  Left WingCenterRight Wing
                                  WSH
                                  Ovechkin, Alex
                                  $9,538,462
                                  LW, RW
                                  NTC
                                  UFA - 3
                                  WSH
                                  Kuznetsov, Evgeny
                                  $7,800,000
                                  C
                                  UFA - 7
                                  NYR
                                  Zuccarello, Mats
                                  $3,150,000
                                  RW
                                  UFA - 1
                                  CHI
                                  DeBrincat, Alex
                                  $778,333
                                  LW, RW
                                  RFA - 2
                                  WSH
                                  Bäckström, Nicklas
                                  $6,700,000
                                  C
                                  NTC
                                  UFA - 2
                                  FLA
                                  Dadonov, Evgeni
                                  $4,000,000
                                  RW, LW
                                  NMC
                                  UFA - 2
                                  WSH
                                  Vrána, Jakub
                                  $863,333
                                  LW
                                  RFA - 1
                                  SJS
                                  Hertl, Tomas
                                  $4,800,000
                                  C, RW
                                  UFA - 4
                                  WSH
                                  Oshie, T.J.
                                  $5,750,000
                                  RW
                                  NTC
                                  UFA - 7
                                  ARI
                                  Grabner, Michael
                                  $2,225,000
                                  RW, LW
                                  NTC
                                  UFA - 3
                                  ARI
                                  Cousins, Nick
                                  $1,000,000
                                  C, LW
                                  RFA - 1
                                  BOS
                                  Johansson, Marcus
                                  $2,750,000
                                  C, LW, RW
                                  NTC
                                  UFA - 1
                                  Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                                  Edler, Alexander
                                  $1,250,000
                                  Carlson, John
                                  $7,300,000
                                  WSH
                                  Holtby, Braden
                                  $6,100,000
                                  G
                                  NTC
                                  UFA - 2
                                  COL
                                  Girard, Samuel
                                  $728,333
                                  LD
                                  UFA - 2
                                  TBL
                                  Strålman, Anton
                                  $3,250,000
                                  RD
                                  NTC
                                  UFA - 1
                                  CAR
                                  Mrázek, Petr
                                  $1,000,000
                                  G
                                  UFA - 1
                                  CBJ
                                  Harrington, Scott
                                  $675,000
                                  LD
                                  UFA - 1
                                  PHI
                                  Hägg, Robert
                                  $1,150,000
                                  LD
                                  RFA - 2
                                  ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
                                  VGK
                                  Nosek, Tomas
                                  $925,000
                                  C, LW
                                  UFA - 1
                                  WSH
                                  Djoos, Christian
                                  $650,000
                                  LD
                                  RFA - 1
                                  DAL
                                  Honka, Julius
                                  $863,333
                                  RD
                                  RFA - 1

                                  Special Teams

                                  Power Play 1
                                  Oshie, T.
                                  Bäckström, N.
                                  Kuznetsov, E.
                                  Ovechkin, A.
                                  Carlson, J.
                                  Power Play 2
                                  DeBrincat, A.
                                  Hertl, T.
                                  Dadonov, E.
                                  Vrána, J.
                                  Girard, S.
                                  Penalty Kill 1
                                  Bäckström, N.
                                  Hertl, T.
                                  Djoos, C.
                                  Strålman, A.
                                  Penalty Kill 2
                                  Cousins, N.
                                  Oshie, T.
                                  Hägg, R.
                                  Carlson, J.

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                                  Oct 17, 2018 at 5:20
                                  #26
                                  TOR GM v4
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                                  Quoting: krakowitz
                                  As much as every GM appreciates getting sent offers, can we please try to keep them reasonable? A suspended fourth liner for the best goalie prospect in the world doesn't *exactly* meet those requirements haha

                                  No worries, what would you counter for Watson in your lineup?
                                  Oct 17, 2018 at 5:23
                                  #27
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                                  Quoting: Pross
                                  No worries, what would you counter for Watson in your lineup?


                                  As of right now, nothing. I'd wait until he comes back from suspension. I also like my fourth line as constructed right now, especially since Nosek is playing in the top 9 and Stephenson is on the Caps top line IRL. Should get me better shot metrics than most fourth lines
                                  Nov 5, 2018 at 4:43
                                  #28
                                  GM - Avalanche
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                                  Interested in Keith?
                                  That gives you an elite top pair.
                                  Nov 5, 2018 at 5:52
                                  #29
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                                  Vrana and samsonov for a 1st
                                  Or
                                  Vrana for goldobin +
                                  Nov 6, 2018 at 12:27
                                  #30
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                                  Quoting: Math
                                  Vrana and samsonov for a 1st
                                  Or
                                  Vrana for goldobin +


                                  Vrana and Samsonov for a first round pick? Is that what you’re suggesting?
                                  Nov 6, 2018 at 7:33
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                                  Quoting: krakowitz
                                  Vrana and Samsonov for a first round pick? Is that what you’re suggesting?


                                  Yeah
                                  Nov 6, 2018 at 9:28
                                  #32
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                                  Quoting: Math
                                  Yeah


                                  Can you tell me why you think I should make that deal?
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                                  Nov 6, 2018 at 2:56
                                  #33
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                                  Quoting: krakowitz
                                  Can you tell me why you think I should make that deal?


                                  Because Math is your favourite. Simple answer really
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                                  Nov 6, 2018 at 4:36
                                  #34
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                                  Quoting: krakowitz
                                  Can you tell me why you think I should make that deal?


                                  What you would want more?
                                  Nov 6, 2018 at 5:07
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                                  Quoting: Math
                                  What you would want more?


                                  Simply put, Samsonov is a Top 3 Goalie prospect, and would command more than a 1st on his own.
                                  Vrana is heating up this year, getting top line minutes now and is overall a great Top 6 forward.

                                  So yes, a 1st for both is not fair.
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                                  Nov 6, 2018 at 7:34
                                  #36
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                                  Quoting: Math
                                  What you would want more?


                                  I’d want at least 3x the value you’re offering here. Jmac did a great job of explaining it
                                  Nov 6, 2018 at 9:48
                                  #37
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                                  Quoting: krakowitz
                                  I’d want at least 3x the value you’re offering here. Jmac did a great job of explaining it


                                  Would you interest in something around goldobin + for vrana
                                  Nov 6, 2018 at 11:47
                                  #38
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                                  Quoting: Math
                                  Would you interest in something around goldobin + for vrana


                                  It would have to be a pretty decent +, given the production I’ve been getting out of Vrana lately.
                                  Nov 10, 2018 at 1:50
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                                  @krakowitz

                                  Please list the following in your teams description;

                                  -Your player rights expiry dates
                                  -Your NMCs and NTCs as well as how many times they've been traded
                                  -The total number of players you have *including* unsigned players (maximum 90)

                                  Thanks
                                  Nov 15, 2018 at 9:40
                                  #40
                                  I'm the Captain now
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                                  Need me to take any cap struggles to help you further improve your team?
                                  Nov 15, 2018 at 10:48
                                  #41
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                                  Quoting: Gronk
                                  Need me to take any cap struggles to help you further improve your team?


                                  I've got nothing for ya. Thanks though
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                                  Nov 19, 2018 at 8:17
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                                  Quoting: Bo53Horvat
                                  @krakowitz

                                  Please list the following in your teams description;

                                  -Your player rights expiry dates
                                  -Your NMCs and NTCs as well as how many times they've been traded
                                  -The total number of players you have *including* unsigned players (maximum 90)

                                  Thanks


                                  Please get this done
                                  Nov 30, 2018 at 7:10
                                  #43
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                                  Quoting: Math
                                  Kuz and carlsson for josi and a pick


                                  Quoting: krakowitz
                                  I'd love to bring in Josi, and I'm willing to overpay to make it happen. Any interest?
                                  Nov 30, 2018 at 8:11
                                  #44
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                                  Quoting: Math


                                  I’m gonna hard pass on that. Those are two of my top performers, and both are outplaying Josi.
                                  Dec 1, 2018 at 7:45
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                                  What cost me backstom or kuz
                                  1st + what?
                                  Dec 1, 2018 at 8:51
                                  #46
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                                  Quoting: Math
                                  What cost me backstom or kuz
                                  1st + what?


                                  I would need an upgrade to do it. Not interested in dealing one of them for futures
                                  Dec 21, 2018 at 11:28
                                  #47
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                                  Sammer-Hammer must go eh?

                                  Whats the fee on that young'ing.
                                  Dec 21, 2018 at 4:50
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                                  Quoting: TMLSage
                                  Sammer-Hammer must go eh?

                                  Whats the fee on that young'ing.


                                  Looking for a big roster upgrade
                                  Dec 21, 2018 at 4:52
                                  #49
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                                  Quoting: krakowitz
                                  Looking for a big roster upgrade


                                  If he must go, why for such a large piece, unless you are adding.
                                  Dec 21, 2018 at 7:01
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                                  Quoting: TMLSage
                                  If he must go, why for such a large piece, unless you are adding.


                                  It doesn't have to be as cut and dry as you're making it sound here. In a deal for Samsonov, I'd need a high impact player coming back to me.
                                   
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