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Is this close MTL EDM COL - Summer of 2019

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Team: 2018-19 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 21, 2018
Published: Sep. 21, 2018
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I think this is a bit lopsided towards the Avs, but it helps each team at an immediate position of need.
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23$79,500,000$66,518,095$0$2,377,500$12,981,905
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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C
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, LW
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$100,000$100K)
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$1,975,000$1,975,000
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
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UFA - 5
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 3
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$2,150,000$2,150,000
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
LD
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$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
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Sep. 21, 2018 at 3:13 p.m.
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Montreal is not trading Drouin for RNH
Sep. 21, 2018 at 3:13 p.m.
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As an oilers fan, that's pretty fair value. But now that we've drafted Bouchard, and we've got Bear coming too, I don't see them giving up that much for an offensive dman. Not to mention, without Nuge, we have pretty much 0 top 6 wingers... It's sort of solving a problem and creating another one. Just my opinion!
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Sep. 21, 2018 at 3:22 p.m.
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As an oilers fan, that's pretty fair value. But now that we've drafted Bouchard, and we've got Bear coming too, I don't see them giving up that much for an offensive dman. Not to mention, without Nuge, we have pretty much 0 top 6 wingers... It's sort of solving a problem and creating another one. Just my opinion!


Well put. This time next year Edmonton has 4 right-shooting d-men (in addition to Larsson and Benning) who will be pushing for NHL work: Bouchard, Berglund, Bear and Persson.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/evan-bouchard
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/filip-berglund
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/ethan-bear
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/joel-persson

Although I don't have a problem with the trade per se, it doesn't really fill a need in Edmonton and losing RNH would be a high price to pay.
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Sep. 21, 2018 at 3:27 p.m.
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In my opinion: Barrie > or close= Drouin > RNH
Sep. 21, 2018 at 3:31 p.m.
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Montreal is not trading Drouin for RNH


So... let me get this straight. A winger who scored 0.60 points/game last year is more valuable than a center who scored 0.77?

Nugent-Hopkins: 62, 24-24-48 +10

Drouin: 77, 13-33-46 -28
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Sep. 21, 2018 at 3:32 p.m.
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In my opinion: Barrie > or close= Drouin > RNH


Drouin's results are generally worse than RNH's. What formed your opinion that way?
Sep. 21, 2018 at 3:35 p.m.
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Drouin's results are generally worse than RNH's. What formed your opinion that way?


I believe Drouin has a higher upside than RNH, also RNH is two years older. Drouin and RNH are producing similarly while Drouin is 2 years younger. A "retooling" team doesn't make trades that make their team older
Sep. 21, 2018 at 3:37 p.m.
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I believe Drouin has a higher upside than RNH, also RNH is two years older. Drouin and RNH are producing similarly while Drouin is 2 years younger. A "retooling" team doesn't make trades that make their team older


I hear you on the age thing, but IMO 2 years younger (when talking about players in thier mid-20's) does not cancel the difference between

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Sep. 21, 2018 at 3:39 p.m.
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I would just like to say that I’m pleased with the debate that this post has created!
Sep. 21, 2018 at 3:43 p.m.
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I hear you on the age thing, but IMO 2 years younger (when talking about players in thier mid-20's) does not cancel the difference between

C
0.77 p/g
+10

and

LW
0.60 p/g
-28


Did RNH not spend 50% of last season playing with Mcdavid? Drouin was forced to play (and be the best player on his line) as 1st line C for the first time last year while RNH was put on the wing beside McDavid. There is a big difference there
Sep. 21, 2018 at 3:48 p.m.
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Drouin's results are generally worse than RNH's. What formed your opinion that way?


GP:82 G:18 A:25 P:43 This is the year before McDavid line... RHN need a superstar beside him to perform!!
Sep. 21, 2018 at 3:49 p.m.
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Did RNH not spend 50% of last season playing with Mcdavid? Drouin was forced to play (and be the best player on his line) as 1st line C for the first time last year while RNH was put on the wing beside McDavid. There is a big difference there


Nugent-Hopkins played just 13 games with McDavid last year. Thirteen.

But even putting that aside, here's a comparison of their first 4 seasons (since Drouin has only played 4):

Drouin
19: 70, 4-28-32 +3 0.46p/g
20: 21, 4-6-10 +1 0.48 (also had some AHL time)
21: 73, 21-32-53 -13 0.73
22: 77, 13-33-46 -28 0.60

Nugent-Hopkins
18: 62, 18-34-52 -2 0.84 p/g
19: 40, 4-20-24 +3 0.60 (lockout year)
20: 80, 19-37-56 -12 0.70
21: 76, 24-32-56 -12 0.74

(Age: GP, G-A-P +/- points/game)

McDavid wasn't even in the league in any of these seasons. I'm not seeing where Drouin is showing a "higher upside" or even "producing similarly" to Nugent-Hopkins.
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Sep. 21, 2018 at 3:50 p.m.
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Edited Sep. 21, 2018 at 3:57 p.m.
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GP:82 G:18 A:25 P:43 This is the year before McDavid line... RHN need a superstar beside him to perform!!


Last year, before playing with McDavid, Nuge was 49, 17-16-33 for 0.67 points/game - still better than Drouin's 0.60 p/g.
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Sep. 21, 2018 at 5:52 p.m.
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Both RNH and Drouin are 1st line LWs now. the Drouin project at center last year showed Drouin can be a solid #2 C nothing more. RNH before McJesus and Drai showed he wasn't cut out for the #1 C spot and was a solid #2 C. At the moment RNH is on the wing of the best player in the league, Drouin is on the wing of yet another winger... So of course RNH has the edge in this argument, hands down. Habs can't really argue this. But put Drouin on McJesus's wing and RNH with MTL and I'd think RNH would put up similar stats to what Drouin will be doing and Drouin would be putting up similar stats to what RNH would will be doing with McJesus. both are incredibly close in terms of skillsets.

It would be a lateral move for the Habs in this situation, not worth it considering RNH is 2 years older. and I don't see how this help EDM since they are super thin on the wing.
Sep. 21, 2018 at 8:55 p.m.
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Both RNH and Drouin are 1st line LWs now. the Drouin project at center last year showed Drouin can be a solid #2 C nothing more. RNH before McJesus and Drai showed he wasn't cut out for the #1 C spot and was a solid #2 C. At the moment RNH is on the wing of the best player in the league, Drouin is on the wing of yet another winger... So of course RNH has the edge in this argument, hands down. Habs can't really argue this. But put Drouin on McJesus's wing and RNH with MTL and I'd think RNH would put up similar stats to what Drouin will be doing and Drouin would be putting up similar stats to what RNH would will be doing with McJesus. both are incredibly close in terms of skillsets.

It would be a lateral move for the Habs in this situation, not worth it considering RNH is 2 years older. and I don't see how this help EDM since they are super thin on the wing.


Try reading the above posts. RNH scores more (and always has) sans McDavid.
Sep. 23, 2018 at 1:06 p.m.
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Last year, before playing with McDavid, Nuge was 49, 17-16-33 for 0.67 points/game - still better than Drouin's 0.60 p/g.


And who was beside him?? Taylor Hall!!! A MVP player!!! LOL C'mon dude, be honnest!!
Sep. 23, 2018 at 6:10 p.m.
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And who was beside him?? Taylor Hall!!! A MVP player!!! LOL C'mon dude, be honnest!!


Taylor Hall played for the New Jersey Devils last year.

Please try to keep up.
Sep. 26, 2018 at 1:28 p.m.
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Taylor Hall played for the New Jersey Devils last year.

Please try to keep up.


With the training camp, you should send a new trade Ty rattie VS Mete, Kotkaniemi and Suzuki, I think it will be fair!!! tears of joy
Sep. 27, 2018 at 9:40 a.m.
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With the training camp, you should send a new trade Ty rattie VS Mete, Kotkaniemi and Suzuki, I think it will be fair!!! tears of joy


Is that an offer?

Hmmm... maybe add a 1st round pick from MTL and I'll consider it...

/sarcasm
 
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