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Team: 2018-19 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 28, 2018
Published: Sep. 28, 2018
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Sep. 28, 2018 at 2:34 p.m.
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Way too much
Sep. 28, 2018 at 2:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Way too much


Keep in mind he is a RFA and has shown potential to be a 20+ point player.
Sep. 28, 2018 at 2:37 p.m.
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you can have shaw for aberg and a 3rd pick
Sep. 28, 2018 at 2:38 p.m.
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Quoting: jassan28
Keep in mind he is a RFA and has shown potential to be a 20+ point player.


brett Connelly for a 2nd?
Sep. 28, 2018 at 2:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy316
you can have shaw for aberg and a 3rd pick


No cap wiggle room though
Sep. 28, 2018 at 2:39 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
brett Connelly for a 2nd?


That could easily work out for the team but Conolly is a key depth player for the Caps and can play the PP if someone is injured
Sep. 28, 2018 at 2:39 p.m.
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No cap wiggle room though


make it Aberg a 2nd and a 5th then MTL will retain half so his cap is 1,950,000
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Sep. 28, 2018 at 2:40 p.m.
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Quoting: jassan28
That could easily work out for the team but Conolly is a key depth player for the Caps and can play the PP if someone is injured


they can easily replace him with barber or shum.....hes going to drop to a 4th line role by season end. imo
Sep. 28, 2018 at 2:52 p.m.
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Very fair offer that makes sense
Sep. 28, 2018 at 2:53 p.m.
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Quoting: jassan28
Keep in mind he is a RFA and has shown potential to be a 20+ point player.


20+ points isnt worth a 2nd and 3rd
Sep. 28, 2018 at 3:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
20+ points isnt worth a 2nd and 3rd


Milan Lucic was offered a first as a rental for 3 months, that picks is DeBrusk today
Sep. 28, 2018 at 3:29 p.m.
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Milan Lucic was offered a first as a rental for 3 months, that picks is DeBrusk today


Doesnt mean much, we have seen debrusk and cehlarik isnt near him
Sep. 28, 2018 at 3:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Doesnt mean much, we have seen debrusk and cehlarik isnt near him

Rick Nash for 20’games after giving away Spooner and a 1st
Sep. 28, 2018 at 3:32 p.m.
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Quoting: jassan28
Rick Nash for 20’games after giving away Spooner and a 1st


spooner was underachieving and nash was a good all around player and his rep around he league helped his value
Sep. 28, 2018 at 4:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
brett Connelly for a 2nd?


That. That would be a massive overpay for somebody who has cleared waivers and is no more than a depth player at this point in his career
Sep. 28, 2018 at 4:35 p.m.
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Quoting: jassan28
Keep in mind he is a RFA and has shown potential to be a 20+ point player.


also khaira is a 20 point player. kills penalties, can play center and is cheaper
Sep. 28, 2018 at 4:52 p.m.
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Edited Sep. 28, 2018 at 5:04 p.m.
Quoting: apo_salven
That. That would be a massive overpay for somebody who has cleared waivers and is no more than a depth player at this point in his career


massive overpayment for a 27 point (15 goals, 12 assists) in 70 games player?? when did he clear waivers, 4 years ago? and yes hes a depth player but to bring up he cleared waivers 3-4 years ago seems silly considering he turned his game around a lot since then. he just won a Stanley cup I believe he factored in on the gwg ? this "depth , waive clearing player" would have been 3rd on the oilers in goals and 7th in points. but yeah MASSIVE is a great word to describe the 2nd round pick....

edit: at the deadline Patrick maroon got a 3rd round pick and a prospect. he scored 30 points and had 14 goals. incase your math isn't great thats only 3 more points and 1 less goal.

its safe to say a 3rd and a mid level prospect could equal or is close to a 2nd round pick. oh yeah Connelly won a cup last year which in most peoples eye would out weigh the 3 points. (also pretty sure maroon played with mcdcvid) ....the best player in the nhl.

Nash who is older received a 1st and spooner and he had 34 points in 71 games..... Nash is a house hold name but his stat line states hes just a depth player. he had 9 more points 6 more goals.....they gave up a 1st and spooner for him.....just saying
Sep. 28, 2018 at 4:53 p.m.
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It looks to me as though Edmonton's greatest need is to improve the ability of the defense to support a quick break-out and transition game, not adding to their complement of forwards.
Sep. 28, 2018 at 5:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
spooner was underachieving and nash was a good all around player and his rep around he league helped his value


Nash had 28 points in 60 games with nyr 6 with Boston in 11 games ...total of 34 points in 71 games (21 goals) .47 ppg

spooner had 25 points in 35 GAMES! ( not yelling stressing a point) with Boston 16 in 20 games with the rangers.... total of 41 points in 55 games thats .74ppg

spooners ppg is the same as William nylander.
Sep. 28, 2018 at 5:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Nash had 28 points in 60 games with nyr 6 with Boston in 11 games ...total of 34 points in 71 games (21 goals) .47 ppg

spooner had 25 points in 35 GAMES! ( not yelling stressing a point) with Boston 16 in 20 games with the rangers.... total of 41 points in 55 games thats .74ppg

spooners ppg is the same as William nylander.


But nashes 2 way game was better and its not our fault spooner was good with us boston agreed to the trade
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Sep. 28, 2018 at 5:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy316
you can have shaw for aberg and a 3rd pick


You mean shaw and 3rd for Aberg. Shaw is a negative value like Z Smith, even bigger. That's bad cap in today's fast and young NHL.
Sep. 28, 2018 at 6:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
massive overpayment for a 27 point (15 goals, 12 assists) in 70 games player?? when did he clear waivers, 4 years ago? and yes hes a depth player but to bring up he cleared waivers 3-4 years ago seems silly considering he turned his game around a lot since then. he just won a Stanley cup I believe he factored in on the gwg ? this "depth , waive clearing player" would have been 3rd on the oilers in goals and 7th in points. but yeah MASSIVE is a great word to describe the 2nd round pick....

edit: at the deadline Patrick maroon got a 3rd round pick and a prospect. he scored 30 points and had 14 goals. incase your math isn't great thats only 3 more points and 1 less goal.

its safe to say a 3rd and a mid level prospect could equal or is close to a 2nd round pick. oh yeah Connelly won a cup last year which in most peoples eye would out weigh the 3 points. (also pretty sure maroon played with mcdcvid) ....the best player in the nhl.

Nash who is older received a 1st and spooner and he had 34 points in 71 games..... Nash is a house hold name but his stat line states hes just a depth player. he had 9 more points 6 more goals.....they gave up a 1st and spooner for him.....just saying


I'm not saying Connolly is a bad player & he has improved since Boston traded two 2nd round picks for him, but you don't trade a 2nd round pick for a player who got 27 points (which is barely 3rd line level at the most) unless they're young with potential (Calgary traded a 2nd for Lazar 2 deadlines ago, which hasn't panned out at this point). You could still sign free agents who would get you 27 points (Stempniak, Cammalleri, etc.) or trade less for a player who can get you those points while playing the minutes Connolly got. Also, I was wrong he didn't clear waivers, Boston didn't offer him a qualifying offer.

I see your point regarding Maroon,but it should be noted that he had 2 strong playoff performances in the previous 2 years and was rotating through the 1st line with Getzlaf & Perry that year. He then went and got 14 points in 16 games after the deal and 27 goals the season after. You are correct he did play with McDavid (2nd best behind Crosby) when he was in Edmonton.

That Nash trade was also an over-payment for what he produced, but that was also what the market was for him. Nash is/was a very strong 2-way player as well with great speed despite his huge body. He brings a lot to the table even if hes not scoring. If hes not scoring though then that 7.8mil price tag was too much (which it often was at the end with NYR & BOS). Nash and Connolly are not similar players. Nash excelled at multiple things (even when not scoring) while Connolly does not. I don't see how that trade relates to this but that's my opinion.
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