It's down to 4 teams interested in trading for Nylander on a long term deal. Otherwise it's an offer sheet or bridge now to trade later.

Every choice has a consequence now, you can't just talk tough to negotiate -- beggars can't be choosers

I think that amongst these teams a solid player and a first or second would be ideal for Toronto. A possible prospect would also be helpful. One player who I feel hasn’t gotten any attention as a swing piece is Adam Fox of the canes. He is ranked the 50th best nhl prospect and he could swing a nylander trade with the canes. He has not been officially on contract yet but he will probably get signed. Fox and pesce for nylander would be very ideal for the leafs because you get a possible future first liner and a player on a great contract for the next 5+ years.

Who is begging? You are the most dramatic person on the planet.

If Toronto's brain trust is as smart as I think they are, they have a very specific criteria for a defenceman they'd trade Nylander for.

1) They need to be great skaters
2) They need to be 25 or under
3) should cost less than 7 million

All these fans who are trading a 22 year old with massive upside for 27/28 year olds are so short sighted. Who gives up a guy who will be elite for the next 8-12 years for a guy who's best hockey is likely behind him.

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It's your first season as a Leafs fan; stick to what you know and constructing trades for "Montreal's great depth players"

I would be all over that trade to be honest. I think I would prefer Bean to take over for Gardiner so there is more flexibility with Dermott. Maybe a Bean/Dermott duo?

Dude... You literally made a comment that made ZERO sense and had ZERO baring on what I was getting at here. If anything you gave me one star to reiterate my point.

That is kind of what I was getting at here. Just pointing out to the website that the value for Nylander is just not there in the league. very few deals make true sense.

you Trade a player and get a value based on what he is not what he might be .

teams are trading established players to help TML with a cup run and given TML is asking for a RD that automatically means they are trading for the hardest players to draft Stars in the entire NHL.
LD sure , like with Centers most talented NHL stars are Lefty's .

half the players you listed have more value then Nylander except those over 25 like Spurgeon ,Byfluglien ,Pietrangelo ,and Manson .
even then WPG nor ANA would consider moving Byfluglien and Manson given the depth of their forwards they have no reason .

Spurgeon and Pietrangelo are important team members but have younger better players thriving ready for more responsibility .
Spurgeon is the easiest to get as MIN has the weakest forward depth of the 2

Good, concise but thorough summary of many if not all of the ideas, realistic and not, that have been floated (except Tanev from Vancouver, ha ha ha).

Why would you give one star to a post saying nothing exceptional other than to summarize many of the ideas, realistic or not, that have been floated regarding Nylander? There's something wrong with you.

Are you under the impression that insulting people makes you seem smarter to the outside world?

There is no helping some people, apparently. (re prior comment by tatatavares)

Yeah, I cannot understand the one star. Tata has proven himself an idiot time and time again on this site.

5 stars because even the 3 it's at is undeserved.

Left out on purpose

I also left out Hjar from Arizona, just because the value would be too far.

And that is what this post is bringing up. Its going over just how unrealistic these trades truly are.

It's today's news.
NJ, NYR, CAR, TBL are involved in exploring an extension for Nylander and are scouting the Leafs to prepare their best bids in the upcoming week via Chris Johnston. That matches perfectly with Dubas flying to Nylander but never actually discussing a new offer, according to Dreger.

There's a limited menu in front of us, and we can't go backwards in time to change it now.

The only off-topic comment came when a pigeon flew in to talk about his feelings. If you want to dismiss all the news you don't like, you don't need to bother me about it. If one pigeon is followed by two more pigeons, it doesn't change anything

First of all, NHL, especially Toronto, is all speculation. Second of all, you are WAY too negative. You think I am dismissing news, when I am not at all. Made you should re-read the post.

I am saying there is a limited menu now. As time went on, teams like St Louis dropped out of the running. The Leafs can't hold out until they consider trading Parayko at all, let alone for Nylander.

I am not saying there will be a bad deal. But it probably won't be the deal that meets the Leafs needs with certainty.
Maybe D prospects that could. Maybe some forwards that enable another trade down the line. Maybe a mix of both.

If the trade plan fails to do well, the backup plan is a bridge deal or matching an offer sheet. Both of which are ultimately about delaying until there is a better trade market.
If Nylander plays his whole career as a Leaf, it probably happens through a bridge deal with Marleau/Gardiner/maybe more leaving to open up cap space when Nylander needs another extension.

That's my whole perspective on the table. It's not all knowing or dramatic. You were misled by many faces bearing no opinion of their own, they just react like pigeons.

But again, my post is literally pushing exactly what you just said. I am saying there isn't a trade that makes sense. I am saying there is no clear right trade and right value. And I believe Toronto isn't shopping him. But that last part is my opinion.

You posted a wish list of players that are rarer than Nylander. The Leafs aren't guaranteed a win. You can't just talk tough and get what you want, there's a reason why the longest an NHL player has sat out was like 11 games.
It's too late in the process to entertain the impossible when we get leaks about the actual parameters on the table. I'd bet NYR+NJD will make the best offers, while CAR+TBL will make minimal offers.

Go nuts asking what you want from NYR so long as you don't limit their future, and can fit within the Leafs' cap. They'd be happy to spend more and tank harder.

It feels like there is a bias to trading Nylander sooner than later, possibly to avoid conflict within the team and make it easier to sign Matthews and Marner.
I'm beginning to think that the standard price of Nylander's RFA years is quite high, and so it would still mean dumping cap elsewhere just to fit Matthews and Marner.

You must really struggle with this, but YOU are actually WRONG. If you actually READ what I wrote, you will see what I said. Which was, a Stanley Cup hopeful does NOT TRADE FOR FUTURES! They need impact players. I also said that Sportsnet did an article about potential targets and I outlined some. PERIOD. Dude, read before you try to stir sh*t up, its painful.