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Team: 2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 22, 2018
Published: Oct. 22, 2018
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  1. Honka, Julius
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Healthy scratch who has fallen out of favor but has good underlying numbers. Need depth on the forward group.
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  1. Brown, Connor
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Hard to keep all the 2m players when we need to pay the big 3, move on and recycle rookie contracts for 4L
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TOR
  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav ($2,000,000 retained)
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Leafs could use the LW help huge, NYR have no use for him and can get some decent futures if they keep the cap hit down for the Leafs.
NYR
  1. Gauthier, Frédérik
  2. Leivo, Josh
  3. 2019 4th round pick (STL)
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (TOR)
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  1. Bellows, Kieffer
  2. 2020 4th round pick (NYI)
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Zaitsev was an obvious Lou guy, dubas needs to rid that contract for the long-term cap problem even though he is probably a capable 4D.
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  1. Bracco, Jeremy
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. 2019 1st round pick (TOR)
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
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G
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RD
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Oct. 22, 2018 at 2:39 p.m.
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I honestly don't even know how to respond to this...
Oct. 22, 2018 at 2:45 p.m.
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I'm just going to make a quick tweek here. And by that I mean trade 5 roster players.

How about you settle down there.
Oct. 22, 2018 at 3:24 p.m.
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I honestly don't even know how to respond to this...


I guess i didnt mean quick change but what’s wrong with it?
Oct. 22, 2018 at 3:26 p.m.
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All 4 trades are not even close to fair. My favorite is Zaitsev, a cap dump and you expect to get a very good prospect and a pick. Cap dumps cost you something you do not. Get to cap dump and get quality for them What are you thinking, that everyone is stupid.
Oct. 22, 2018 at 3:35 p.m.
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All 4 trades are not even close to fair. My favorite is Zaitsev, a cap dump and you expect to get a very good prospect and a pick. Cap dumps cost you something you do not. Get to cap dump and get quality for them What are you thinking, that everyone is stupid.


Honka is a healthy scratch for Polak... you dont healthy scratch guys that are worth the farm especially for a pylon. Brown scored 20 goals dude, he’s only deep on a depth chart with a lot of RW talent. Zaitsev is not a cap dump, he signed the contract a year ago from the guy you’re trading him to. He may not be worth as much as i gave as a return but i can assure you he’s not a guy that would clear waivers. What to you is namestnikov worth? He’s a free agent after next season and they get a couple prospects and picks, that’s probably the most unrealistic trade, but he’s not a guy that people will give a first plus for. And pesce is playing as 5th-6th D in carolina man, that trade is actually heavily leaned to carolina favor honestly
Oct. 22, 2018 at 3:55 p.m.
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All 4 trades are not even close to fair. My favorite is Zaitsev, a cap dump and you expect to get a very good prospect and a pick. Cap dumps cost you something you do not. Get to cap dump and get quality for them What are you thinking, that everyone is stupid.


This ACGM is not good, but Zaitzev is no cap dump. He has been very good this year. Don't buy into the anti-Toronto hype.
Oct. 22, 2018 at 4:00 p.m.
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This ACGM is not good, but Zaitzev is no cap dump. He has been very good this year. Don't buy into the anti-Toronto hype.


I’m curious as to why you think that about my post. Honestly want to get a different view
Oct. 22, 2018 at 4:06 p.m.
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Namestikov is a bust. How is could remotely help the Leafs? Zaitsev certainly isn't a cap dump. Can't imagine why the Canes would trade a steady NHL Dman for futures.
Oct. 22, 2018 at 4:07 p.m.
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I’m curious as to why you think that about my post. Honestly want to get a different view


The Nylander contract is too high for one.

The trades are just awful.
Brown for a scratch? Brown has been fine.
Vlad has been... well, not good, and Rangers would send you a bouquet for taking his contract, even at 50%.
Losing Zaitzev, who has been excellent this year for nothing?
Pesce for very little? Look, I think that if Pesce was coming, and they wanted Nylander, Carolina is going to need to add a good amount, but this is a huge undervaluation of him.

So yeah, the whole thing really.
Oct. 22, 2018 at 4:12 p.m.
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The Nylander contract is too high for one.

The trades are just awful.
Brown for a scratch? Brown has been fine.
Vlad has been... well, not good, and Rangers would send you a bouquet for taking his contract, even at 50%.
Losing Zaitzev, who has been excellent this year for nothing?
Pesce for very little? Look, I think that if Pesce was coming, and they wanted Nylander, Carolina is going to need to add a good amount, but this is a huge undervaluation of him.

So yeah, the whole thing really.


I don’t know id you follow advanced statistics at all but Honka is good by all accounts. He’s a high pick that hasn’t earned the coaches trust. Brown realistic is our 4th RW and it’s hard to keep 2+m on the 4th line. Nylander is my fav leaf, so maybe it’s a little overpaid. Zaits has been good but the 4.5 is steep to keep at this point. Namestnikov for spare parts making 2m idk how you’d argue that that’s not an upgrade on marleau at this point in his career. Pesce maybe i am wrong, but i dont see them getting full value with teams seeing him sitting on the 3rd pair.

Funny enough this post has one person saying all trades are awful for torotno and another saying Toronto will never get that for them.
Oct. 22, 2018 at 4:15 p.m.
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Namestikov is a bust. How is could remotely help the Leafs? Zaitsev certainly isn't a cap dump. Can't imagine why the Canes would trade a steady NHL Dman for futures.

Namestnikov is a good player, not a game changer but a middle 6 guy thats an upgrade on marleau. Pesce is the one trade i do feel you may be right, i think value is there (personally) but maybe the futures don’t adress their wants.
Oct. 22, 2018 at 4:18 p.m.
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I don’t know id you follow advanced statistics at all but Honka is good by all accounts. He’s a high pick that hasn’t earned the coaches trust. Brown realistic is our 4th RW and it’s hard to keep 2+m on the 4th line. Nylander is my fav leaf, so maybe it’s a little overpaid. Zaits has been good but the 4.5 is steep to keep at this point. Namestnikov for spare parts making 2m idk how you’d argue that that’s not an upgrade on marleau at this point in his career. Pesce maybe i am wrong, but i dont see them getting full value with teams seeing him sitting on the 3rd pair.

Funny enough this post has one person saying all trades are awful for torotno and another saying Toronto will never get that for them.


Vlad has been awful. He will be in KHL sooner rather than later. He cannot crack a rebuilding teams roster, so no, Marleau is much better, as he is still an NHL player. Brown is a solid 3rd line guy, he has been good with Kadri. Zaitzev has played up to his contract, the problem was he should have gotten one of term and hit, and Lou gave him both. Right now he is playing up to the hit, and that is all that matters for the near future.

And you do not need to clear cap space. Get everyone signed to fair contracts (don't even need discounts) and everyone is back.

Hyman(2.25)-Tavares(11)-Marner(7.5)
Marleau(6.25)-Matthews(11)-Kapanen(3)
Nylander(4.75)-Kadri(4.5)-Brown(2.1)
Johnsson(1.5)-Lindholm(1.5)Grundstrom(.925)

Leivo(0.971,250)-Goat(.675)

Rielly(5)-Dermott(.863,333)
Ozhiganov(1.5)-Zaitzev(4.5)
Borg/Rosen/Marincin (.925) - Liljegren(.863,333)
Borg/Rosen/Marincin (.925)

Andersen(5)
Sparks(.800)

Total cap hit: 78,297,160
Total cap space (cap at 82.5): 4,202,084

Find 300k extra and you can keep Gards at full price (8@4.5 = 36 million)
BoG and NHLPA say cap is minimum 82.5.

I should make it clear. Nylander is 3@4.75 million.
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In isolation, unlike the others, I think your trades are reasonably fair value. But I, like others, have issues with the trades because I don't see the need for them.

The biggest question I have is about the Zaitsev trade, which is what impels you then to make the Honka trade. If you believe (hope) that Zaitsev rebounds this year (see Jake Muzzin, 2016 - 2017), then you keep him and therefore Connor Brown, with less disruption to the roster. (See @LoganOllivier .) The Namestnikov trade only happens because you want to fill the hole left by the trade for Pesce, which is a pretty good idea. A first, a second, a prospect and a roster player is no overpayment for a second- or third-pairing defenseman, no matter what the Carolina extremists tell you. If your entire post were one trade, with Brown substituted for Johnsson in the Pesce trade, you might have gotten much different feedback.
Oct. 22, 2018 at 4:35 p.m.
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In isolation, unlike the others, I think your trades are reasonably fair value. But I, like others, have issues with the trades because I don't see the need for them.

The biggest question I have is about the Zaitsev trade, which is what impels you then to make the Honka trade. If you believe (hope) that Zaitsev rebounds this year (see Jake Muzzin, 2016 - 2017), then you keep him and therefore Connor Brown, with less disruption to the roster. (See @LoganOllivier .) The Namestnikov trade only happens because you want to fill the hole left by the trade for Pesce, which is a pretty good idea. A first, a second, a prospect and a roster player is no overpayment for a second- or third-pairing defenseman, no matter what the Carolina extremists tell you. If your entire post were one trade, with Brown substituted for Johnsson in the Pesce trade, you might have gotten much different feedback.


I respect this point of view. I personally don't see Zaitsev being worth his contract though, I can see him as a 4D(we can't pay 4 of them 4m+ with our forward group). The roster is getting disturbed the moment Nylander signs anyways, and I do believe Dubas is looking (at NYR Last night) to move a RW. I also think to rid ourselves of the risk of having Zaitsev not be worth the money is a smart move with a cap crunch in the forefront. Turning this into 1 or 2 trades would be a lot more sensical I agree, I find it hard to come up with though. Thanks for the input!
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Oct. 22, 2018 at 4:43 p.m.
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Vlad has been awful. He will be in KHL sooner rather than later. He cannot crack a rebuilding teams roster, so no, Marleau is much better, as he is still an NHL player. Brown is a solid 3rd line guy, he has been good with Kadri. Zaitzev has played up to his contract, the problem was he should have gotten one of term and hit, and Lou gave him both. Right now he is playing up to the hit, and that is all that matters for the near future.

And you do not need to clear cap space. Get everyone signed to fair contracts (don't even need discounts) and everyone is back.

Hyman(2.25)-Tavares(11)-Marner(7.5)
Marleau(6.25)-Matthews(11)-Kapanen(3)
Nylander(4.75)-Kadri(4.5)-Brown(2.1)
Johnsson(1.5)-Lindholm(1.5)Grundstrom(.925)

Leivo(0.971,250)-Goat(.675)

Rielly(5)-Dermott(.863,333)
Ozhiganov(1.5)-Zaitzev(4.5)
Borg/Rosen/Marincin (.925) - Liljegren(.863,333)
Borg/Rosen/Marincin (.925)

Andersen(5)
Sparks(.800)

Total cap hit: 78,297,160
Total cap space (cap at 82.5): 4,202,084

Find 300k extra and you can keep Gards at full price (8@4.5 = 36 million)
BoG and NHLPA say cap is minimum 82.5.

I should make it clear. Nylander is 3@4.75 million.


A lot of those numbers are optimistic, matthews likely doesn't take 11 if he scores 50. I personally also don't think the cap is as tight as most people think it is aswell, but when Dermott, Lil, Kap, Johnsson etc all need to be paid, that's when it hurts. Also bridging Nylander means Dubas lost IMO. A 61 point - 21 year old is likelly only to improve, and so does his leverage as he's selling more UFA years next contract. IMO a bridge solidifies a Nylander trade before the contract is up. Why is Nylander all of a sudden a 3L LW? he's a right winger who put up a stellar season with Auston. I think Brown is a perfectly capable 3RW but Kapanen is better and cheaper at this point IMO making him expendable for Honka(who i think you should look into, hes good.). OZ is a RD and Dermott is a LD, I don't mind Dermott switching to RD but no point in moving both to opposites.
Oct. 22, 2018 at 4:47 p.m.
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I respect this point of view. I personally don't see Zaitsev being worth his contract though, I can see him as a 4D(we can't pay 4 of them 4m+ with our forward group). The roster is getting disturbed the moment Nylander signs anyways, and I do believe Dubas is looking (at NYR Last night) to move a RW. I also think to rid ourselves of the risk of having Zaitsev not be worth the money is a smart move with a cap crunch in the forefront. Turning this into 1 or 2 trades would be a lot more sensical I agree, I find it hard to come up with though. Thanks for the input!


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A lot of those numbers are optimistic, matthews likely doesn't take 11 if he scores 50. I personally also don't think the cap is as tight as most people think it is aswell, but when Dermott, Lil, Kap, Johnsson etc all need to be paid, that's when it hurts. Also bridging Nylander means Dubas lost IMO. A 61 point - 21 year old is likelly only to improve, and so does his leverage as he's selling more UFA years next contract. IMO a bridge solidifies a Nylander trade before the contract is up. Why is Nylander all of a sudden a 3L LW? he's a right winger who put up a stellar season with Auston. I think Brown is a perfectly capable 3RW but Kapanen is better and cheaper at this point IMO making him expendable for Honka(who i think you should look into, hes good.). OZ is a RD and Dermott is a LD, I don't mind Dermott switching to RD but no point in moving both to opposites.


These are all cap comparable numbers with cap inflation included. These are the base numbers, and they may deviate one way or the other.
Matthews is worth 11, although I'd take 11,343,434. All comparables put him here, also it matches Tavares' contract.
Nylander worth no more than 6@6.5/3@4.75 <---- Not paying Nylander 8 mil means Dubas won lol. If nylander wont sign long term at 6.5, then he must cave to bridge. Long term makes the most sense, but if Nylander wont move (cause the team sure wont), then it is a bridge.
Marner is Nylander's long term contract + 1 million (6-7@7.5)
No, the cap hit opens up the year after. Marleau's contract is gone and cap goes up, and we have no one important left to sign except for Dermott.
Dermott is a RD, he moved to LD when he was called up.
Oz and Zaitzev were a really good pair back in the KHL.
Don't worry about the line numbers. These are balanced lines that can be rolled all night. It is why Hyman plays on the 1st line lol.
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These are all cap comparable numbers with cap inflation included. These are the base numbers, and they may deviate one way or the other.
Matthews is worth 11, although I'd take 11,343,434. All comparables put him here, also it matches Tavares' contract.
Nylander worth no more than 6@6.5/3@4.75 <---- Not paying Nylander 8 mil means Dubas won lol. If Nylander won't sign long-term at 6.5, then he must cave to bridge. Long-term makes the most sense, but if Nylander won't move (cause the team sure won't), then it is a bridge.
Marner is Nylander's long-term contract + 1 million (6-7@7.5)
No, the cap hit opens up the year after. Marleau's contract is gone and the cap goes up, and we have no one important left to sign except for Dermott.
Dermott is a RD, he moved to LD when he was called up.
Oz and Zaitzev were a really good pair back in the KHL.
Don't worry about the line numbers. These are balanced lines that can be rolled all night. It is why Hyman plays on the 1st line lol.


Dermott is a LD that played RD, he moved to the RS with the Marlies but I agree it's not a problem if he does it again. I don't like having OZ on 2nd pair and on the wrong side, especially since we've seen him for single-digit games in the NHL without a pedigree. Your ideas aren't far from mine IMO, Liljegren will be big money down the line if he pans out too, Kapanen probably doesn't take a long-term deal this offseason and could be worth north of 5 if he turns out to be as good as many think. I agree it's workable, but losing Gardiner without a replacement and not gaining any Dman with top 4 pedigree is going to be difficult with an already average at best D core. Also to the point of 4 balanced lines, I agree in a sense but this market is in an uproar if Auston and JT aren't playing more than the 3rd and 4th lines, realistically they should run the top 2 evenly than the 3rd as much as they can, with so much firepower you only need 7ish mins out of your 4L and I don't see a reason to have multi-million dollar players there.
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Namestnikov is a good player, not a game changer but a middle 6 guy thats an upgrade on marleau. Pesce is the one trade i do feel you may be right, i think value is there (personally) but maybe the futures don’t adress their wants.


C'mon Namestikov last 26 games....a third of a seasons....he is two goals, three assists. How is that an improvement over Marleau.? . Canes might finally be position to make the playoffs, I just don't think they would be trading for futures right now, especially for a solid NHLer, Pessce on a great contract.
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Dermott is a LD that played RD, he moved to the RS with the Marlies but I agree it's not a problem if he does it again. I don't like having OZ on 2nd pair and on the wrong side, especially since we've seen him for single-digit games in the NHL without a pedigree. Your ideas aren't far from mine IMO, Liljegren will be big money down the line if he pans out too, Kapanen probably doesn't take a long-term deal this offseason and could be worth north of 5 if he turns out to be as good as many think. I agree it's workable, but losing Gardiner without a replacement and not gaining any Dman with top 4 pedigree is going to be difficult with an already average at best D core. Also to the point of 4 balanced lines, I agree in a sense but this market is in an uproar if Auston and JT aren't playing more than the 3rd and 4th lines, realistically they should run the top 2 evenly than the 3rd as much as they can, with so much firepower you only need 7ish mins out of your 4L and I don't see a reason to have multi-million dollar players there.


On the lines thing, I meant top 3 are rolled in a similar way to what they are currently. It just improves the 3rd to near the level of the other 2. Also, it's been known that having your talent spread out is the best way to play. Harder to shut down 3 lines instead of 1. Dallas for example.
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I respect this point of view. I personally don't see Zaitsev being worth his contract though, I can see him as a 4D(we can't pay 4 of them 4m+ with our forward group). The roster is getting disturbed the moment Nylander signs anyways, and I do believe Dubas is looking (at NYR Last night) to move a RW. I also think to rid ourselves of the risk of having Zaitsev not be worth the money is a smart move with a cap crunch in the forefront. Turning this into 1 or 2 trades would be a lot more sensical I agree, I find it hard to come up with though. Thanks for the input!


Zaitsev has been really good this season. Worth every penny he gets paid. He plays the smartest defensive game out of any Leaf Blueliner. Trading him isn't a necessity, it's a mistake. 4.5 for an above average second pair defenseman is a good deal.
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Vlad has been awful. He will be in KHL sooner rather than later. He cannot crack a rebuilding teams roster, so no, Marleau is much better, as he is still an NHL player. Brown is a solid 3rd line guy, he has been good with Kadri. Zaitzev has played up to his contract, the problem was he should have gotten one of term and hit, and Lou gave him both. Right now he is playing up to the hit, and that is all that matters for the near future.

And you do not need to clear cap space. Get everyone signed to fair contracts (don't even need discounts) and everyone is back.

Hyman(2.25)-Tavares(11)-Marner(7.5)
Marleau(6.25)-Matthews(11)-Kapanen(3)
Nylander(4.75)-Kadri(4.5)-Brown(2.1)
Johnsson(1.5)-Lindholm(1.5)Grundstrom(.925)

Leivo(0.971,250)-Goat(.675)

Rielly(5)-Dermott(.863,333)
Ozhiganov(1.5)-Zaitzev(4.5)
Borg/Rosen/Marincin (.925) - Liljegren(.863,333)
Borg/Rosen/Marincin (.925)

Andersen(5)
Sparks(.800)

Total cap hit: 78,297,160
Total cap space (cap at 82.5): 4,202,084

Find 300k extra and you can keep Gards at full price (8@4.5 = 36 million)
BoG and NHLPA say cap is minimum 82.5.

I should make it clear. Nylander is 3@4.75 million.


Nylander, Marner and Matthews are all going to get more than your projections. The people feeling the pinch will be the depth guys. The Leafs just can't afford to give 3 mill to Kapanen next season. Johnsson has been a healthy scratch, he's not getting 1.5 and what is with Leaf fans on here and their love of Grundstrom. He's a depth level prospect.

I agree that most of the roster can be signed and brought back but with the Leafs having so much power that can be locked up long term. You are going to see a lot of turnover on the periphery of the roster. Embrace it, don't get loyal to players who are unlikely to stay long term.
Oct. 23, 2018 at 9:51 a.m.
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Nylander, Marner and Matthews are all going to get more than your projections. The people feeling the pinch will be the depth guys. The Leafs just can't afford to give 3 mill to Kapanen next season. Johnsson has been a healthy scratch, he's not getting 1.5 and what is with Leaf fans on here and their love of Grundstrom. He's a depth level prospect.

I agree that most of the roster can be signed and brought back but with the Leafs having so much power that can be locked up long term. You are going to see a lot of turnover on the periphery of the roster. Embrace it, don't get loyal to players who are unlikely to stay long term.

Completely agree, though Grundstrom is exactly the player Babcock loves and seems to be on the fast track to the NHL next year, probably a depth forward with jam though. Kapanen can get 3-4 as long as it has 4+ yr term and they plan to play him left side top 6, replaces Marleau's money.
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Zaitsev has been really good this season. Worth every penny he gets paid. He plays the smartest defensive game out of any Leaf Blueliner. Trading him isn't a necessity, it's a mistake. 4.5 for an above average second pair defenseman is a good deal.


I tend to lean on a 160+ game sample size over the single digit games he's played this year, he has looked okay though, still not worth the money and not the term at all
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I tend to lean on a 160+ game sample size over the single digit games he's played this year, he has looked okay though, still not worth the money and not the term at all


If he plays as good as he has this season for the entire term and his past 2 seasons have been primarily good (he was injured and then very sick last year, lost 20 lbs of muscle, anyone would struggle in that scenario), he will be worth his contract and term. 4.5 isn't a tonne of money for a right handed defenceman who can kill penalties and QB a pp in a pinch. I think spending money on him over a guy like Gardiner is a way better plan for this team. Zaitsev doesn't really do anything wrong, a lot of his hate comes from his plus minus, which I'd blame Gardiner for because that guy just gives the puck away all the time.
 
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