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WellLA Needs Young Scoring and a Goalie

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Team: 2018-19 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 31, 2018
Published: Oct. 31, 2018
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If I’m being honest, I’d prefer this trade to be for a defenseman. But by all reports, and Jack Johnson being....well Jack Johnson, I get no indication that they’re going to trade for a defenseman. Therefore, give a defensively lacking young sniper to play with a defensive superstar center in Kopitar. And send Jarry who is ready for NHL full schedule goalie work. For a good LW that is having a slow start to play with Brassard.

The exchanged picks probably need to change, but that’s the best I can’t come up with right now.

Let me know what you think!
Trades
PIT
  1. Pearson, Tanner
  2. 2020 4th round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Jarry, Tristan
  2. Sprong, Daniel
  3. 2019 2nd round pick (PIT)
  4. 2020 6th round pick (PIT)
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2021
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22$79,500,000$73,379,892$0$982,500$6,120,108
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LD
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RD
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Oct. 31, 2018 at 7:40 p.m.
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we're good thanks.
Oct. 31, 2018 at 7:45 p.m.
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we're good thanks.


Thank you for your informative and detailed input, as well as, specifying what you don’t like! Really helpful!
Oct. 31, 2018 at 8:03 p.m.
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we're good thanks.


Pittsburgh accepts that in a second. Jarry is blocked and Sprong is being set up to fail for the team.
Oct. 31, 2018 at 8:24 p.m.
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Pearson has really been struggling this season. Shipping him out for some high picks, a good young goalie in Jarry and a young shooter in Sprong seems ideal. I’d definitely take this.
Oct. 31, 2018 at 8:40 p.m.
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Pittsburgh accepts that in a second. Jarry is blocked and Sprong is being set up to fail for the team.


just what the pens need another $4 mil LW who has trouble scoring....PASS
Oct. 31, 2018 at 8:43 p.m.
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just what the pens need another $4 mil LW who has trouble scoring....PASS


Outside of this year, he hasn't really had trouble scoring. Consistent 15 goal scorer on a defensive style hockey team. He'd get a handful more with Malkin. Plus he's a physical player who throws the body around
Oct. 31, 2018 at 8:58 p.m.
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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
Outside of this year, he hasn't really had trouble scoring. Consistent 15 goal scorer on a defensive style hockey team. He'd get a handful more with Malkin. Plus he's a physical player who throws the body around


He's 6'1 200lbs please lets not act like that is the size to be an actual physical player, it's not. He's just an average player. There is plenty of track record on that too.

Second, I wouldn't trade a young player who with give equal ice time would probably put up more than 15 goals for him, especially when they are on a team friendly salary. Sprongs upside is a lot greater. with Pearson you already know what you are going to get, and the last thing this team needs is an average or under performing winger. Whole team is stacked with wingers. They don't need to trade one that can potentially be a difference maker for someone who is average. Especially at a 4 million cap hit when the team is constantly in need of cap space. On top of it throw in a player who can be a potentially good backup. On top of it give up a 2nd round pick for a team that needs to improve it's prospect pool. You high.
Oct. 31, 2018 at 9:42 p.m.
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He's 6'1 200lbs please lets not act like that is the size to be an actual physical player, it's not. He's just an average player. There is plenty of track record on that too.

Second, I wouldn't trade a young player who with give equal ice time would probably put up more than 15 goals for him, especially when they are on a team friendly salary. Sprongs upside is a lot greater. with Pearson you already know what you are going to get, and the last thing this team needs is an average or under performing winger. Whole team is stacked with wingers. They don't need to trade one that can potentially be a difference maker for someone who is average. Especially at a 4 million cap hit when the team is constantly in need of cap space. On top of it throw in a player who can be a potentially good backup. On top of it give up a 2nd round pick for a team that needs to improve it's prospect pool. You high.


I’m not saying he’s the most physical player in the league, but he’s more aggressive then most of the wingers on Pittsburgh. And yes, you know what you’re getting with Pearson, a consistent 15+ goal scorer. Who knows what you’re getting with sprong, because he’s being wasted on the 4th line playing 8 minutes a game. He is making zero impact on the team playing 8 minutes. Bring in someone who will make a difference if they aren’t going to give sprong a chance. LW is a huge weakness and they need to be better there. Guentzel is their only LW who is a goal scorer. The draft pick makes no difference to Pittsburgh. They obviously do not care about their prospect pool considering they constantly are trading draft picks to improve the team now. Come on now
Oct. 31, 2018 at 10:48 p.m.
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He's 6'1 200lbs please lets not act like that is the size to be an actual physical player, it's not. He's just an average player. There is plenty of track record on that too.

Second, I wouldn't trade a young player who with give equal ice time would probably put up more than 15 goals for him, especially when they are on a team friendly salary. Sprongs upside is a lot greater. with Pearson you already know what you are going to get, and the last thing this team needs is an average or under performing winger. Whole team is stacked with wingers. They don't need to trade one that can potentially be a difference maker for someone who is average. Especially at a 4 million cap hit when the team is constantly in need of cap space. On top of it throw in a player who can be a potentially good backup. On top of it give up a 2nd round pick for a team that needs to improve it's prospect pool. You high.



That’s plenty big, bigger than Hornqvist...
Good skating and balance is more important than a few inches or pounds
Oct. 31, 2018 at 11:13 p.m.
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if anything the pens should be the ones getting the draft picks in this situation, also might need to retain some salary on pearson since Schultz will be coming back off IR eventually
Oct. 31, 2018 at 11:22 p.m.
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if anything the pens should be the ones getting the draft picks in this situation, also might need to retain some salary on pearson since Schultz will be coming back off IR eventually


The salary cap is prorated. The Pens would have plenty of cap room after 4 months.
Nov. 1, 2018 at 6:35 a.m.
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That’s plenty big, bigger than Hornqvist...
Good skating and balance is more important than a few inches or pounds


dude hory is a small player he's like 5'11 I don't even know how you use that as a comparable.

No one is sending Horny out there to play a physical role. Getting in front of the net and actually being able to play that role are two different things.

This is no good deal for the Pens, it's not even close.

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I’m not saying he’s the most physical player in the league, but he’s more aggressive then most of the wingers on Pittsburgh. And yes, you know what you’re getting with Pearson, a consistent 15+ goal scorer. Who knows what you’re getting with sprong, because he’s being wasted on the 4th line playing 8 minutes a game. He is making zero impact on the team playing 8 minutes. Bring in someone who will make a difference if they aren’t going to give sprong a chance. LW is a huge weakness and they need to be better there. Guentzel is their only LW who is a goal scorer. The draft pick makes no difference to Pittsburgh. They obviously do not care about their prospect pool considering they constantly are trading draft picks to improve the team now. Come on now


Just because a player isn't getting ice time doesn't mean you trade him. That isn't a logical argument at all. Rikolla isn't getting ice time when all the d men are healthy should we trade him too?

He's a young 22. You want to throw him out, get real. And for what, an average player. Let alone put in a goalie and a 2nd round pick. Your high. With those 3 combined you can get a larger return.

Do you think Boston fans would trade away Donato a second and a good back up goalie for Pearson, hell no they wouldn't. And for good reason. Which is why the Penguins will never do the same.
This trade is trash.
Nov. 1, 2018 at 9:02 a.m.
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Pearson is a legit, Sprong is a big question mark. Jarry has little value as all goalies prospects do and he hasn’t stood out consistently at any level. A second, is inconsequential to this team.
Odds are still strong Sprong and Jarry arnt NHL players...

This move really improves the team in the now, and that is what they are going for. As for his salary it’s pretty fair and he has a little term into his declining years. Basically replaces Hagelin.

As for physically, I don’t thk that’s a problem. The caps win a cup and now everyone forgets that the pens and hawks did it for years without that element. Players like HQ and Guentzel that get to the net and dig pucks off the boards and the only physical this team should focus one.
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dude hory is a small player he's like 5'11 I don't even know how you use that as a comparable.

No one is sending Horny out there to play a physical role. Getting in front of the net and actually being able to play that role are two different things.

This is no good deal for the Pens, it's not even close.



Just because a player isn't getting ice time doesn't mean you trade him. That isn't a logical argument at all. Rikolla isn't getting ice time when all the d men are healthy should we trade him too?

He's a young 22. You want to throw him out, get real. And for what, an average player. Let alone put in a goalie and a 2nd round pick. Your high. With those 3 combined you can get a larger return.

Do you think Boston fans would trade away Donato a second and a good back up goalie for Pearson, hell no they wouldn't. And for good reason. Which is why the Penguins will never do the same.
This trade is trash.


Okay you’re missing my point. They aren’t giving sprong a chance to succeed in this team. I’d rather have sprong if he was being played in the top 6, but Sullivan doesn’t like his game. They need players now, and can’t wait for players to develope and maybe become good. I’d rather have a top 6 guy contributing to a team over a guy with more potential but only seeing 8 min a game on the 4th line.
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Okay you’re missing my point. They aren’t giving sprong a chance to succeed in this team. I’d rather have sprong if he was being played in the top 6, but Sullivan doesn’t like his game. They need players now, and can’t wait for players to develope and maybe become good. I’d rather have a top 6 guy contributing to a team over a guy with more potential but only seeing 8 min a game on the 4th line.


I don't think you are understanding the point. A. He's not a top 6 guy, and B. giving up low pay talent destroys actually building a team. Stop worrying about when Sprong will get his chance, and him being "wasted" It's not even 20 games in the season yet.

You would be trading a TON of talent here for a bottom 6 winger who struggles to score. No thanks. I'd rather swap sprong one for one with Donato before I made a bad deal like this.
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I don't think you are understanding the point. A. He's not a top 6 guy, and B. giving up low pay talent destroys actually building a team. Stop worrying about when Sprong will get his chance, and him being "wasted" It's not even 20 games in the season yet.

You would be trading a TON of talent here for a bottom 6 winger who struggles to score. No thanks. I'd rather swap sprong one for one with Donato before I made a bad deal like this.


Ok whatever I’m done with this. You’re way too stubborn to see another’s view. Sprong is not apart of this future and it’s extremely obvious. They’re literally doing the same thing they did with Pouliot.
Nov. 1, 2018 at 10:56 a.m.
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Ok whatever I’m done with this. You’re way too stubborn to see another’s view. Sprong is not apart of this future and it’s extremely obvious. They’re literally doing the same thing they did with Pouliot.


No they aren't. It's not even remotely the same.

The organization knows Sprong isn't fully ready. If they could have they would have kept him in WBS but that wasn't an option. They are doing what they have to do because they don't have other choices. If they thought he wasn't going to find a role here they would have shipped him out. But instead they believe the guys got the skill but needs to add strength and size. Hence he is on the main roaster to protect him from being poached. You think carrying him on the roaster to protect him is a waste. Nothing is further from the truth. It's the right move.
 
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