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building on current top 3 lines and solidifying our LD and 4th C for playoff run

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Team: 2018-19 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 1, 2018
Published: Nov. 1, 2018
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Top 2 lines work and now we've put the Finnisher line together on third with Lehkonen-Kokanemi-Armia we're set in our top 9 (as shown by KK 2 goal night scoring his first shift with the all Finnish Line )

i brought in LG to secure our 4th giving us a solid faceoff center and someone who lays out hits and blocks shots every night rounding out our grit line with Deslauriers and Shaw
Trades
1.
DET
  1. 2019 3rd round pick (MTL)
2.
MTL
  1. Sanheim, Travis
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PHI gets the highest pick of MTL's 2nd round pick's in 2019 the most stacked draft since 2003.(when NSH took Suter,Weber and Klein,ANA took Getzlaf and Perry,PHI took Carter and Richards)


if it takes it , MTL will take a salary dump but this is a fair trade IMO and should not need it .
PHI
  1. Hudon, Charles
  2. Lernout, Brett
  3. Peca, Matthew
  4. 2019 2nd round pick (CBJ)
  5. 2019 4th round pick (CGY)
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Hudon is small and fast but not fragile and good for 125+ hits a season and is handy on the PK . people who are prejudice see a french forward who's small and must only been kept because he speaks french but thats naive and Hudon model's his game very similar to his Mentor Paul Byron .

on a team like PHI Hudon would slot in nice next to Nolan Patrick IMO because of his break out speed and Patricks playmaking just seems like a logical fit .

-Lernout's simply called 'the Meanest Man on the Ice ' by those in the AHL. he's a team leader who's a big strong lad that loves leveling people with devastating high impact hits . (in MTL's system he's 1st call up on RD in PHI's he'd be competing with Meyers for top RD minutes and first call up rights and i say that as someone who watched Tyler train here at home all summer long i've watched both up close and know both well )
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Nov. 1, 2018 at 11:48 p.m.
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You guys are actually good and I’m shocked. I thought you’d be decent, but you look legit rn. I hope they can keep it up.
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Nov. 1, 2018 at 11:56 p.m.
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Flyers decline.
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Nov. 2, 2018 at 12:00 a.m.
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Flyers decline.

what does it take ?(even though i strongly think PHI would take this and Run )
Nov. 2, 2018 at 12:07 a.m.
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Quoting: STLBlues17
You guys are actually good and I’m shocked. I thought you’d be decent, but you look legit rn. I hope they can keep it up.


We built on speed and purged ourselves of Americans and Russians for the most past as CJ prefer's Canadians and Europeans . (most due to Canadians ,Swede's and Fin's being more well rounded 2 way players generally )

i love the vibe this year .
everyone was down on Domi but i bought a jersey on Pre order the day we got him in a show of support .
Pacioretty trade is the gift that keeps giving with Tatar thriving here , Suzuki as a top 20 points leader in OHL at over a point per game playing dominant and a pick still to come in the NHL's most stacked draft since 2009 .


if we can buyout Alzner , Waive Benn and Trade Hudon we'll be a better team (Hudon is good but we're diminishing his value and he's got no place in our system )
Nov. 2, 2018 at 12:12 a.m.
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what does it take ?(even though i strongly think PHI would take this and Run )


Depends what they want i guess. But what they want is to keep him.

Lernout and Peca top out as bottom of the roster players. 4th probably does as well. Which means the trade is 2nd and Hudon for Sanheim at it’s core. And i think he has more value than that. The rest is just filler trying to make up the difference and it doesn’t. They’d have to hope that someone in that package become much better than anticipated in order not to lose.

The likelyhood of a Sanheim trade would be to bring in veteran(s) for playoff push. But even that is unlikely. Until they get a goalie this team is playing for 2 years from now. Sanheim will be part of that.
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Nov. 2, 2018 at 12:27 a.m.
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Quoting: Billy316
We built on speed and purged ourselves of Americans and Russians for the most past as CJ prefer's Canadians and Europeans . (most due to Canadians ,Swede's and Fin's being more well rounded 2 way players generally )

i love the vibe this year .
everyone was down on Domi but i bought a jersey on Pre order the day we got him in a show of support .
Pacioretty trade is the gift that keeps giving with Tatar thriving here , Suzuki as a top 20 points leader in OHL at over a point per game playing dominant and a pick still to come in the NHL's most stacked draft since 2009 .


if we can buyout Alzner , Waive Benn and Trade Hudon we'll be a better team (Hudon is good but we're diminishing his value and he's got no place in our system )


One thing I’m not surprised about is Kotkaniemi. I would have taken Hughes, but Kotkaniemi would have gone fourth for me. He’s just a much more impactful player than Zadina.
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Nov. 2, 2018 at 12:47 a.m.
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Depends what they want i guess. But what they want is to keep him.

Lernout and Peca top out as bottom of the roster players. 4th probably does as well. Which means the trade is 2nd and Hudon for Sanheim at it’s core. And i think he has more value than that. The rest is just filler trying to make up the difference and it doesn’t. They’d have to hope that someone in that package become much better than anticipated in order not to lose.

The likelyhood of a Sanheim trade would be to bring in veteran(s) for playoff push. But even that is unlikely. Until they get a goalie this team is playing for 2 years from now. Sanheim will be part of that.


alright here's a new pitch

Hudon (who i still think can help them in a playoff push , he's young fast and talented with 100+ hits a year )
Shaw @ 1.95m cap who is a proven playoff guy with multiple cups before he was 25
Lindgren (he's hungry and better then anything PHI has in net this year )
2nd in 2020

for Sanheim and which ever player PHI wants to dump

this gives PHI a bit of everything it needs with two 24 year old Prospects and a 27 year old Playoff Veteran with a Pick to Boot for Sanheim who's playing just 16minutes the least of any Defensmen in PHI even with PHI's Macdonald out . PHI issue isnt with LD , they have an embarrassment of riches there its the RD they are desperate in because its Gudas and thats it . MTL cant help them with their RD issues but we can help them with their Goalie issue as at worst Lindgren will take the Backup position in the NHL
Nov. 2, 2018 at 12:49 a.m.
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One thing I’m not surprised about is Kotkaniemi. I would have taken Hughes, but Kotkaniemi would have gone fourth for me. He’s just a much more impactful player than Zadina.


i was between Tkchuck ,Boqvist and Kotkanemi myself .
i looked at what we needed and the LD we needed wasnt in a top 3 position and knowing we wouldnt trade down i was betting we would take Boqvist on D because he'll be coming into the NHL just as Petry would be leaving .although really Centers were the logical way to go an i honestly thought we'd take Tkchuck because he was NHL ready and i thought Kotkanemi would need a year .(never been so glad to be wrong KK is a star)
Nov. 2, 2018 at 7:05 a.m.
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We built on speed and purged ourselves of Americans and Russians for the most past as CJ prefer's Canadians and Europeans . (most due to Canadians ,Swede's and Fin's being more well rounded 2 way players generally )

i love the vibe this year .
everyone was down on Domi but i bought a jersey on Pre order the day we got him in a show of support .
Pacioretty trade is the gift that keeps giving with Tatar thriving here , Suzuki as a top 20 points leader in OHL at over a point per game playing dominant and a pick still to come in the NHL's most stacked draft since 2009 .


if we can buyout Alzner , Waive Benn and Trade Hudon we'll be a better team (Hudon is good but we're diminishing his value and he's got no place in our system )


I love the opitimism but it's unsustainable. xGF through the floor, xGA through the roof means the offence is scoring at an unsustainable rate and Carey Price is winning the Veina this year....
Nov. 2, 2018 at 7:27 a.m.
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I love the opitimism but it's unsustainable. xGF through the floor, xGA through the roof means the offence is scoring at an unsustainable rate and Carey Price is winning the Veina this year....


Not sure where you get your stats from but MTL is currently 5th in the NHL in expected goal differential. 5th in xGA (as in 5th lowest), though yes they are 16th in xGF which could be better. They are 19th in xGF/60, but are 2nd in xGA/60 if we want to get a more accurate picture.
Nov. 2, 2018 at 7:35 a.m.
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Not sure where you get your stats from but MTL is currently 5th in the NHL in expected goal differential. 5th in xGF (as in 5th lowest), though yes they are 16th in xGA which could be better. They are 19th in xGF/60, but are 2nd in xGA/60 if we want to get a more accurate picture.


xGA/6- is a swayed stat, it takes into account 3-on-3 OT which isn't hockey. It's a practise drill. xGA is much higher then it needs to be and look at the xGF and then lok at the shooting percentage this is as sustainable as a fossil fuels
Nov. 2, 2018 at 7:56 a.m.
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xGA/6- is a swayed stat, it takes into account 3-on-3 OT which isn't hockey. It's a practise drill. xGA is much higher then it needs to be and look at the xGF and then lok at the shooting percentage this is as sustainable as a fossil fuels


MTL xGA is 5th in the NHL, not sure how that translates to higher than it needs to be. MTL shooting percentage is 9.9, league average is 9.7, league averages save percentage is .909 while MTL sits at .906. While a few players are shooting well above average and can be expected to regress, most are within the range that can be expected given their career average, some are actually likely to increase. And with Carey Price in net MTL has a good chance of being above league average for save%, so they should improve there.
Nov. 2, 2018 at 1:45 p.m.
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I love the opitimism but it's unsustainable. xGF through the floor, xGA through the roof means the offence is scoring at an unsustainable rate and Carey Price is winning the Veina this year....


i've listened to people over a year try to give no respect
now that we're winning consistently built on our new players speed and offense i wont start humoring you know .

i get it some people were raised to piss on parade's and avoid giving credit where its due .
i was raised in Canada around future Stars like Crawford,Marchand,D.Savard ,Barbashev,Danault ,Garland just to name the one's you'd recognize .
its why i refuse to butcher teams based on ignorance .

you say its unsustainable i say adding Shea Weber who is close to a return as per his MTL tv interviews helps us a lot given he lead the NHL in Power Play Points over a Month after he was sidelined last year he was that far ahead of all the competition . adding Weber allows us to sit out Benn which takes away 1/3-1/4 of our turnovers a night that way he's been letting them by in bunches at a time .
Nov. 3, 2018 at 1:20 p.m.
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i've listened to people over a year try to give no respect
now that we're winning consistently built on our new players speed and offense i wont start humoring you know .

i get it some people were raised to piss on parade's and avoid giving credit where its due .
i was raised in Canada around future Stars like Crawford,Marchand,D.Savard ,Barbashev,Danault ,Garland just to name the one's you'd recognize .
its why i refuse to butcher teams based on ignorance .

you say its unsustainable i say adding Shea Weber who is close to a return as per his MTL tv interviews helps us a lot given he lead the NHL in Power Play Points over a Month after he was sidelined last year he was that far ahead of all the competition . adding Weber allows us to sit out Benn which takes away 1/3-1/4 of our turnovers a night that way he's been letting them by in bunches at a time .


With the kind of injury he suffered he's out until December at an absolute minimum, and at his age and with how bad an ageing player can be coming back from injury, I don't see this being sustainable... hell I'd love to see the Canadiens make the playoffs but I don't see it happening
Nov. 3, 2018 at 3:52 p.m.
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With the kind of injury he suffered he's out until December at an absolute minimum, and at his age and with how bad an ageing player can be coming back from injury, I don't see this being sustainable... hell I'd love to see the Canadiens make the playoffs but I don't see it happening


tell that to brendan gallagher who you all said the same thing about for years before last seasons breakout and this seasons strong start.
he has 3 injuries to the same hand inside 12 months over 2 seasons with a major surgery .

Weber has a shot that like Chara ,Mcinnis , Iafrate and hose Record holding shots before him were all told the same thing but Chara and Iafrate set their record at 36 i believe it was.All 30 + years old with shots only got more refined with age .
Nov. 4, 2018 at 11:51 a.m.
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tell that to brendan gallagher who you all said the same thing about for years before last seasons breakout and this seasons strong start.
he has 3 injuries to the same hand inside 12 months over 2 seasons with a major surgery .

Weber has a shot that like Chara ,Mcinnis , Iafrate and hose Record holding shots before him were all told the same thing but Chara and Iafrate set their record at 36 i believe it was.All 30 + years old with shots only got more refined with age .


Chara can't move. Mcinnis by the end of his career was slower then me, and Iafrate never had any speed. Weber cannot defend and for someone who solidified himself in Nashville as a 2 way D man, that's gonna hurt him a lot. He has that shot, but how much power can he realistically generate after having 2 bad leg injuries in 2 seasons? Is his knee gonna give in again? Who knows? He's not gonna be the Weber he was. He's been on the decline since the trade, and he's only gonna be worse.
Nov. 4, 2018 at 11:51 a.m.
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tell that to brendan gallagher who you all said the same thing about for years before last seasons breakout and this seasons strong start.
he has 3 injuries to the same hand inside 12 months over 2 seasons with a major surgery .

Weber has a shot that like Chara ,Mcinnis , Iafrate and hose Record holding shots before him were all told the same thing but Chara and Iafrate set their record at 36 i believe it was.All 30 + years old with shots only got more refined with age .


Chara can't move. Mcinnis by the end of his career was slower then me, and Iafrate never had any speed. Weber cannot defend and for someone who solidified himself in Nashville as a 2 way D man, that's gonna hurt him a lot. He has that shot, but how much power can he realistically generate after having 2 bad leg injuries in 2 seasons? Is his knee gonna give in again? Who knows? He's not gonna be the Weber he was. He's been on the decline since the trade, and he's only gonna be worse.
Nov. 4, 2018 at 11:51 a.m.
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tell that to brendan gallagher who you all said the same thing about for years before last seasons breakout and this seasons strong start.
he has 3 injuries to the same hand inside 12 months over 2 seasons with a major surgery .

Weber has a shot that like Chara ,Mcinnis , Iafrate and hose Record holding shots before him were all told the same thing but Chara and Iafrate set their record at 36 i believe it was.All 30 + years old with shots only got more refined with age .


Chara can't move. Mcinnis by the end of his career was slower then me, and Iafrate never had any speed. Weber cannot defend and for someone who solidified himself in Nashville as a 2 way D man, that's gonna hurt him a lot. He has that shot, but how much power can he realistically generate after having 2 bad leg injuries in 2 seasons? Is his knee gonna give in again? Who knows? He's not gonna be the Weber he was. He's been on the decline since the trade, and he's only gonna be worse.
Nov. 4, 2018 at 2:35 p.m.
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Chara can't move. Mcinnis by the end of his career was slower then me, and Iafrate never had any speed. Weber cannot defend and for someone who solidified himself in Nashville as a 2 way D man, that's gonna hurt him a lot. He has that shot, but how much power can he realistically generate after having 2 bad leg injuries in 2 seasons? Is his knee gonna give in again? Who knows? He's not gonna be the Weber he was. He's been on the decline since the trade, and he's only gonna be worse.


Weber cant defend?
if that were true he wouldnt be such a priority for Team Canada consistently.
NSH could have gotten rid of Weber on offer sheets and kept Suter as they would have gotten a lot better return but Weber they viewed as the Better D for their Core even though he was a 2nd rounder and Suter was a 1st in the same Draft giving up Weber's all around ability to play D in all situations wasnt an option for NSH despite giving up 2 firsts ,a 2nd and a 3rd at the time based on the offer sheet PHI made so that should say something .


like Gallagher he went back in when he wasnt 100% and re-injured himself .
again you woulda been someone saying Dump Gallagher because he was injured 3 times in 2 seasons in a 12 month span but he came back from surgery better then ever.

i mean Markov had 3 injury Ridden seasons to come back and be a big part of 2 ECF pushes for MTL .
Injury doesnt equal end of Career if it did Sidney Crosby would have retired before he won his back to back cups .

Weber's played great since he came over 25 minutes with 58 points in 110 games over 2 seasons dealing with injury with 27/58 pts on the power play and a big part of the reason he was leading power play production in the NHL nearly a month after he was out on IR . with 216 blocked shots and 206 hits and a CF/FF% of 52% he's easily been MTL's best defensman regardless of Petry's play being solid in his abscene's that does not diminish Weber's impact .

Weber will be back stronger then before terrorizing the NHL's other teams with his League's 2nd hardest slapshot.
Nov. 5, 2018 at 9:38 a.m.
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Weber cant defend?
if that were true he wouldnt be such a priority for Team Canada consistently.
NSH could have gotten rid of Weber on offer sheets and kept Suter as they would have gotten a lot better return but Weber they viewed as the Better D for their Core even though he was a 2nd rounder and Suter was a 1st in the same Draft giving up Weber's all around ability to play D in all situations wasnt an option for NSH despite giving up 2 firsts ,a 2nd and a 3rd at the time based on the offer sheet PHI made so that should say something .


like Gallagher he went back in when he wasnt 100% and re-injured himself .
again you woulda been someone saying Dump Gallagher because he was injured 3 times in 2 seasons in a 12 month span but he came back from surgery better then ever.

i mean Markov had 3 injury Ridden seasons to come back and be a big part of 2 ECF pushes for MTL .
Injury doesnt equal end of Career if it did Sidney Crosby would have retired before he won his back to back cups .

Weber's played great since he came over 25 minutes with 58 points in 110 games over 2 seasons dealing with injury with 27/58 pts on the power play and a big part of the reason he was leading power play production in the NHL nearly a month after he was out on IR . with 216 blocked shots and 206 hits and a CF/FF% of 52% he's easily been MTL's best defensman regardless of Petry's play being solid in his abscene's that does not diminish Weber's impact .

Weber will be back stronger then before terrorizing the NHL's other teams with his League's 2nd hardest slapshot.


Your over selling weber, he isn't that good. Injury doesn't mean end of career, but injury at an old age and the second injury to this part of his body within the past 2 years is. He's average in his own end. As for terrorising people, how's he gonna do that one one leg? He's not as good as your making him out to be, he's not a top 20 league wide D man anymore, he's old washed up, he looks ready to play for LA, thats how bad he's looked
 
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