I can’t see Anaheim doing that

I don't think Wild fans would be happy losing Greenway, but I'd definitely do that Wild trade.

im with you on everything almost. greenway is like coyle to me always leaving me wanting more. never seems over physical and has flashes of being good. i get thats becuase hes young and still getting use to the nhl. wild would still need to shreed some salary

What would be the price for the Habs?

Petry + Hudon +2nd or something like that?

So explain this to me.

Nylander is so elite that they refuse to pay him. In return they want a top 4 dman and a top 9 forward? You would assume that such a talent would get paid whatever price to keep him esp since Matthews will make 12 million.....

Actually, we wouldn't with this trade! Assuming we'd make no other trades and called up a D (probably Murphy), we'd have $7.9M in space which is plenty to get a contract done with him. All of these capfriendly tweets saying his cap will be higher this year is using his 1st year salary the same as his cap hit. So essentially we could just have a very low salary for him this year to even out his cap hit to $7.5M or whatever every year. It's sort of hard to explain but the basis is that salary can vary year to year, but the cap hit is just the average of each year's salary. Nylander's cap this year is calculated using the amount of days in the season (186) divided by the remaining season days (something like 140) and multiplying that number by his 1st year's salary. If you made the salary low, you could find a salary number (using my example of 140 remaining season days his salary would have to be $5.645 M) to make the cap hit to be the desired cap hit (which is $7.5M using my example).

I'm not quite ready to give up on either of Greenway and Ek since they are extremely young but you're right we see flashes but it would be nice if they could show up more on the score sheet.

i didn't decide i wanted that return, it was dubas, ask him

I’m just saying as a owner or even a fan. Fans and ownership are labeling him as elite but won’t pay him.

Example.
Capitals view Tom Wilson as elite and they paid his asking price.....if you honestly believe that nylander is this good you would pay him. Just my opinion

So dreger is carrying water for the team who are in full panic mode with this situation and won't get anything close to those trade returns

i guess be very close with the cap . the road trip ek coyle greenway line was awesome to watch. and would you really like that top 4 suter dumba brodin murphy seeler patryan. yeah i saw that thing with the cap kinda confusing

i dont know, i just used teams that if i woke up tomorrow and saw a nylander trade, it would be one of these teams doing it.

it's mainly because we straight up can't afford to keep his 8.5, which every leafs fan will say he's not worth, and somehow keep thews and marner. dubas is trying to think long-term rather than skipping to a bridge or paying him too much. I thought the leafs would try to get their hands on a top 2 dman but this is what they ask which in some ways makes sense, honestly, I'm just excited for the day whether he's signed or traded. also, I don't label him elite,

In theory couldn’t they just trade kap or brown and sign nylander. Seems like they are separated by 1.5 million and id rather have him than either of those two. Again if he’s that good you would sign him and deal with the cap later. This year might be their best chance to win a cup. Why waste it?

Basically to sum up the cap thing, the salary is how much the player is actually paid while the cap hit is just the average of the total amount they are paid divided by the years of the contract. If the Wild traded for him and really wanted a lower cap hit for every year except this year (which helps re-sign Staal and plan for Kaprizov), they could make that happen by paying him a higher salary this year. As it stands, we don't really have the cap space to do that, so barring any other trades we'd just have to pay him a much lower salary (the amount of money he actually is paid) this year) to even out the cap hit over every year.

On a the deal I would pay him which is $52.5M over 7 years which would normally have a $7.5M cap hit for every year, we could either

1. Try to get his cap hit higher this year to help next year. There's literally millions of ways you could do that since even just a $1 increase in salary this year impacts each remaining year's cap hit. To make it easy, let's just say we want to pay him $6.5M this year. That creates a cap hit of $8.3M this year and the remaining 6 years would have a cap hit of $7.36M. It's not much of a decrease from the $7.5M but it does leave a little more flexibility. Unfortunately, we'd have to move a player to make it work (likely Nino or Coyle) which is a whole different story. Personally I don't think the small flexibility is worth it, but I can see how some might.

2. Try to get his cap hit to remain at $7.5M for every year. To do this we'd have to pay him a salary of about $5.85M this year. This actually makes sense since his actual amount he's paid would increase in the upcoming years which would align with his prime years.

Hopefully that makes sense.

As for our top 4, I don't think it would be ideal to throw Murphy with Brodin, I'd rather have Pateryn in our top 4. I know he's found some great chemistry with Seeler, but Murphy is such a liability in his own zone... Maybe that would be fixed if you threw him with Brodin. I think we'd have to spread minutes out more evenly across our bottom 4 where each pairing would play around 18 minutes per night. Pateryn did that last year in Dallas and he was just fine. I'd be a little more worried about Seeler playing almost 5 more minutes per night but he's been pretty good this year. Maybe you throw Prosser with Brodin or Seeler instead to give a more defensively sound unit. I've also thought maybe you trade a Coyle or Nino to Boston for Kevan Miller and Gabriel Vladar. Gives us a better option at D and a good future goalie, although with the way Rask is playing they might not want to do that.

Dubas doesn't want to pay him but more than Pasta who is even better than Nylander( who is demanding Draisaitl money). That's the issue here. Sweeney thinks of Pasta as an elite talent but held out for the long term betterment of the team. Pasta being a team player took less. Nylander isn't meaning Nylander isn't a team guy.

I'd hang up the phone as soon as Brodin was named, it wouldn't even get to the hearing Greenway's name.

Unless I'm crazy I'm pretty sure they initially had Spurgeon instead of Brodin... If it's Brodin we don't have a replacement for him lined up yet so trading him is a bad move.