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Sharks Acquire Nylander - Option 2 - Burns One-for-One Deal

Created by: CheechYou
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 14, 2018
Published: Nov. 14, 2018
Team: 2018-19 San Jose Sharks
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Nylander, William7$7,500,000
Trades
1.
SJS
    Rights to RFA William Nylander
    TOR
    1. Burns, Brent
    Buyouts
    • Paul Martin: $2,016,667
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Nick Foligno: $1,375,000 (25%)
    • Brenden Dillon: $1,635,000 (50%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2018
    2019
    FLA
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    2020
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    OTT
    2021
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$79,500,000$79,170,834$0$1,590,000$329,166
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    SJS
    Hertl, Tomas
    $5,625,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 4
    SJS
    Couture, Logan
    $6,000,000
    C, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Nylander, William
    $7,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 6
    SJS
    Kane, Evander
    $7,000,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 7
    SJS
    Pavelski, Joe
    $6,000,000
    RW, C
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    SJS
    Donskoi, Joonas
    $1,900,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    SJS
    Sörensen, Marcus
    $700,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    SJS
    Thornton, Joe
    $5,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    SJS
    Meier, Timo
    $894,167
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    SJS
    Goodrow, Barclay
    $650,000
    LW, C, RW
    UFA - 1
    SJS
    Suomela, Antti
    $925,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    SJS
    Labanc, Kevin
    $717,500
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    SJS
    Karlsson, Melker
    $2,000,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 2
    SJS
    Chartier, Rourke
    $672,500
    C
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    SJS
    Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
    $7,000,000
    LD/RD
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    SJS
    Karlsson, Erik
    $6,500,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    SJS
    Jones, Martin
    $5,750,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    SJS
    Ryan, Joakim
    $650,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    SJS
    Braun, Justin
    $3,800,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    SJS
    Dell, Aaron
    $1,900,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    SJS
    Dillon, Brenden
    $1,635,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    SJS
    Heed, Tim
    $650,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    SJS
    Simek, Radim
    $675,000
    LD
    UFA - 2

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    Nov. 14, 2018 at 4:51 p.m.
    #1
    CGY
    Joined: Dec. 2015
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    It will need to be Karlsson, Burns and 3 1sts for Nylander, haven't you read this site? Lol
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    Nov. 14, 2018 at 4:58 p.m.
    #2
    Formerly Jamiepo
    Joined: Jul. 2018
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    Quoting: ItWasIn
    It will need to be Karlsson, Burns and 3 1sts for Nylander, haven't you read this site? Lol


    How about neither... Burns is great but he’s getting older and is signs till age 40 at 8m. This just isn’t a good fit with our young core. We are not at the “need to win now” last chance stage. Karlsson is a ufa next season and by the looks of things will probably not be able to resign with the sharks and Toronto certainly can’t afford him.

    Trading a 22 year old for a 33 year old just isn’t smart asset management.
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    Nov. 14, 2018 at 5:03 p.m.
    #3
    TiBo
    Joined: Oct. 2018
    Posts: 445
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    Quoting: Jamiepo
    How about neither... Burns is great but he’s getting older and is signs till age 40 at 8m. This just isn’t a good fit with our young core. We are not at the “need to win now” last chance stage. Karlsson is a ufa next season and by the looks of things will probably not be able to resign with the sharks and Toronto certainly can’t afford him.

    Trading a 22 year old for a 33 year old just isn’t smart asset management.


    Couldn't agree more.
    Nov. 14, 2018 at 5:08 p.m.
    #4
    LongtimeLeafsufferer
    Joined: Jul. 2015
    Posts: 40,849
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    Quoting: Jamiepo
    How about neither... Burns is great but he’s getting older and is signs till age 40 at 8m. This just isn’t a good fit with our young core. We are not at the “need to win now” last chance stage. Karlsson is a ufa next season and by the looks of things will probably not be able to resign with the sharks and Toronto certainly can’t afford him.

    Trading a 22 year old for a 33 year old just isn’t smart asset management.


    There hasn't been too many Burns to Leafs trade....virtually all other RHDs have been offered to Leafs on CapFriendly. Asset management? Leafs Dmen cost 19m, Sharks Dmen 30m. Leafs 4th GAA, Sharks 17th.
    Looking forward to tomorrow night, Sharks and Leafs.
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    Nov. 14, 2018 at 5:33 p.m.
    #5
    exo2769
    Joined: Jul. 2015
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    Quoting: ItWasIn
    It will need to be Karlsson, Burns and 3 1sts for Nylander, haven't you read this site? Lol


    This site is pretty crazy sometimes. Nylander is a hot topic right now I agree that this has gotten out of hand. Reality has to set in at some point. There's ZERO chance San Jose would accept a Nylander/Burns trade straight up. Forget the standard...Top Pair Dmen are worth more than wingers. It's true, but forget that for now. Burns is a DMAN with more points than a winger......A winger that gets to play on the TOP Scoring team in the NHL. AND I'm not talking a point or two. 21 points over the last (2) seasons. Oh, and the contract amount of $8M...What' Big Willie Looking for? There really shouldn't be any Burns for Nylander trade at all, but if there is Timothy Liljegren needs to be included.

    With that said...If Burns was available. That team is SICK!!! Cup finals seems automatic and winning it is highly likely.
    Nov. 14, 2018 at 5:40 p.m.
    #6
    Formerly Jamiepo
    Joined: Jul. 2018
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    Quoting: exo2769
    This site is pretty crazy sometimes. Nylander is a hot topic right now I agree that this has gotten out of hand. Reality has to set in at some point. There's ZERO chance San Jose would accept a Nylander/Burns trade straight up. Forget the standard...Top Pair Dmen are worth more than wingers. It's true, but forget that for now. Burns is a DMAN with more points than a winger......A winger that gets to play on the TOP Scoring team in the NHL. AND I'm not talking a point or two. 21 points over the last (2) seasons. Oh, and the contract amount of $8M...What' Big Willie Looking for? There really shouldn't be any Burns for Nylander trade at all, but if there is Timothy Liljegren needs to be included.

    With that said...If Burns was available. That team is SICK!!! Cup finals seems automatic and winning it is highly likely.


    Burns is 33.... when Willy hits his prime burns will be 38... why would we want a 38 year old burns over a 27 year old nylander... I swear some people just look at stats and consider nothing else. This is a very narrow minded view you have. Oh and we aren’t paying Willy 8m are we?
    Nov. 14, 2018 at 5:54 p.m.
    #7
    exo2769
    Joined: Jul. 2015
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    Edited Nov. 15, 2018 at 12:40 p.m.
    Quoting: Jamiepo
    Burns is 33.... when Willy hits his prime burns will be 38... why would we want a 38 year old burns over a 27 year old nylander... I swear some people just look at stats and consider nothing else. This is a very narrow minded view you have. Oh and we aren’t paying Willy 8m are we?


    I completely agree that stats aren't everything. 100%
    What is literally everything. Playing hockey. Right now Willie doesn't play hockey. You cant get Norris winner and Hart finalist for just an arguably top 10 RWer...top 20 winger. Willie is good. Hes not Gretzky. And yes, recently this site has felt this way. I do however think SJ should consider a Karlsson + HIGH prospect for willie though.
    Nov. 14, 2018 at 5:59 p.m.
    #8
    Formerly Jamiepo
    Joined: Jul. 2018
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    Quoting: exo2769
    I completely agree that stats aren't everything. 100%
    What is literally everything. Playing hockey. Right now Willie doesn't play hockey. You cant get Norris winner and Hart finalist for just an arguably top 10 RWer...top 20 winger. Willie is good. Hes not Gtretzky. And yes, recently this site has felt this way. I do however think SJ should consider a Karlsson + HIGH prospect for willie though.


    We have the depth to carry on without nylander this season if need be. The issue is does San Jose or any team want to pay nylander more than the leafs? Also karlsson would not fit our cap next year and if he signs with an eastern team sharks lose a 1st and 2nd I believe. Otherwise yes I wold love to have karlsson.
    Nov. 14, 2018 at 6:15 p.m.
    #9
    exo2769
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    Quoting: Jamiepo
    We have the depth to carry on without nylander this season if need be. The issue is does San Jose or any team want to pay nylander more than the leafs? Also karlsson would not fit our cap next year and if he signs with an eastern team sharks lose a 1st and 2nd I believe. Otherwise yes I wold love to have karlsson.


    Something isnt right with Karlsson in SJ. Blackhawks fans are sharing player comps between him and Seabrook. You know, the guy that everyone says is worthless...its jaw dropping. I'm NOT trying to suggest Seabrook is a better player, BUT the way each of them are currently playing...you might get a HAUL in a trade. Maybe he even realizes that hes not worth the reported $12.5M hes looking for. It's worth a call for Dubas to ask. SJ only has him this year...if hes not working out...
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