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Created by: rriccobene
Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 19, 2018
Published: Nov. 20, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
2019-20 estimated cap: $81.5m (Elliotte Friedman)
2020-21 estimated cap: $85m

Coburn, Girardi, and Callahan gone to FA.
Stralman re--signs at the end of 18-19 at $2m/2y.
Sergachev given a bridge contract.
Point takes pay cut to stay in Tampa.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,500,000
3$1,150,000
4$3,250,000
2$925,000
7$7,250,000
3$2,125,000
2$1,333,333
3$2,125,000
2$1,000,000
3$767,500
2$867,500
3$833,750
2$867,500
2$867,500
2$825,000
2$839,167
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$725,000
2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,000,000
3$700,000
3$700,000
2$700,000
2$1,333,333
2$700,000
2$700,000
3$700,000
3$725,000
Trades
1.
TBL
  1. Calvert, Matt
  2. 2021 4th round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
2022 4th round pick (COL)
2.
TBL
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
2022 6th round pick (CBJ)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$85,000,000$84,258,332$0$500,000$741,668

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, C, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,166,666$5,166,666
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,333,333$1,333,333
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
G
UFA - 8
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 6
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,333,333$1,333,333
G
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 20, 2018 at 7:03 a.m.
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I think thats a big pay cut hes taking if he keeps up his pace, however maybe he has a head on his shoulders and would rather have a good chance to win a cup or 2 then when this contract is up go for the big ticket, not like that nylander guy
Nov. 20, 2018 at 8:21 a.m.
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I think thats a big pay cut hes taking if he keeps up his pace, however maybe he has a head on his shoulders and would rather have a good chance to win a cup or 2 then when this contract is up go for the big ticket, not like that nylander guy


Point is a Centre, good luck with that. Young studs like point aren't getting bridge deals anymore. He's better than Draisaitl and is going to get 8 minimum.
Nov. 20, 2018 at 9:59 a.m.
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
Point is a Centre, good luck with that. Young studs like point aren't getting bridge deals anymore. He's better than Draisaitl and is going to get 8 minimum.


unless he takes 6.5 for 3 years and then takes 9-10 (if he keeps getting better and better) for 8 years
Nov. 20, 2018 at 10:01 a.m.
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unless he takes 6.5 for 3 years and then takes 9-10 (if he keeps getting better and better) for 8 years


Look how well that idea is going in Toronto and Tampa isn't some magical land where people just accept less because they can. Kucherov was the last player to get a deal like that and it won't likely happen again.
Nov. 20, 2018 at 10:16 a.m.
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Look how well that idea is going in Toronto and Tampa isn't some magical land where people just accept less because they can. Kucherov was the last player to get a deal like that and it won't likely happen again.


thats one of the positives of being in a tax sheltered market, 6.5 in tampa is like 8.5-9 in toronto
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Nov. 20, 2018 at 10:32 a.m.
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thats one of the positives of being in a tax sheltered market, 6.5 in tampa is like 8.5-9 in toronto


That is actually completely incorrect, taxes are far more complex than that. I can't recall exactly what the numbers are but for Toronto to match a 9.5 million dollar deal with Florida, its only a million or so more. So 6.5 would be about a 7 million dollar deal in TO. TSN made a graph on this in the summer and I was surprised at how close it was. Sure it makes a difference but there are way more factors at play than just money. Facilities, endorsement opportunities etc.
Nov. 20, 2018 at 11:25 a.m.
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
That is actually completely incorrect, taxes are far more complex than that. I can't recall exactly what the numbers are but for Toronto to match a 9.5 million dollar deal with Florida, its only a million or so more. So 6.5 would be about a 7 million dollar deal in TO. TSN made a graph on this in the summer and I was surprised at how close it was. Sure it makes a difference but there are way more factors at play than just money. Facilities, endorsement opportunities etc.


you are not wrong, wither way they are in the same position as TO so i doubt they will be able to make it work.
Nov. 21, 2018 at 5:04 p.m.
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
That is actually completely incorrect, taxes are far more complex than that. I can't recall exactly what the numbers are but for Toronto to match a 9.5 million dollar deal with Florida, its only a million or so more. So 6.5 would be about a 7 million dollar deal in TO. TSN made a graph on this in the summer and I was surprised at how close it was. Sure it makes a difference but there are way more factors at play than just money. Facilities, endorsement opportunities etc.


Using the post-tax earnings calculator here on CapFriendly.com, it shows that a $7m contract, for example, would result in an earning of $4,444,310 in Tampa, and $3,290,029 in Toronto. Similarly, in Tampa, a $9.5m contract would result in $6,019,310 earning, and only $4,451,779 in Toronto. I would have to argue that while it may seem relatively small, we are still talking about an extra $1-1.5m post-tax which means a lot. Not to mention the fact that Tampa has great weather, and that the media is not as intense.

I also factored in the fact that three of Tampa's superstars have taken pay-cuts to stay here. Stamkos was reported to be drawing $9-10m from TOR, and stayed for $8.5m. Hedman, who is arguably the best defenseman in the league, stayed here for under $8m. Kucherov, who is top-5 in points since 2015-16 and could easily draw upwards of $11m, stayed in Tampa for $9.5m. Players love to play in Tampa, which is why guys like Ryan McDonagh and JT Miller stayed in Tampa. Is $6.5m too low for Point? Probably. Point will probably attract $7-7.5m from Tampa, and what Nylander does, or doesn't do, will affect that.
Nov. 21, 2018 at 5:08 p.m.
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Using the post-tax earnings calculator here on CapFriendly.com, it shows that a $7m contract, for example, would result in an earning of $4,444,310 in Tampa, and $3,290,029 in Toronto. Similarly, in Tampa, a $9.5m contract would result in $6,019,310 earning, and only $4,451,779 in Toronto. I would have to argue that while it may seem relatively small, we are still talking about an extra $1-1.5m post-tax which means a lot. Not to mention the fact that Tampa has great weather, and that the media is not as intense.

I also factored in the fact that three of Tampa's superstars have taken pay-cuts to stay here. Stamkos was reported to be drawing $9-10m from TOR, and stayed for $8.5m. Hedman, who is arguably the best defenseman in the league, stayed here for under $8m. Kucherov, who is top-5 in points since 2015-16 and could easily draw upwards of $11m, stayed in Tampa for $9.5m. Players love to play in Tampa, which is why guys like Ryan McDonagh and JT Miller stayed in Tampa. Is $6.5m too low for Point? Probably. Point will probably attract $7-7.5m from Tampa, and what Nylander does, or doesn't do, will affect that.


I won't argue with that. What I will say though is how people get paid makes a difference as well. Bonus money can be taxed differently than salary so there are ways to work around tax laws. They just don't seem to be as big an issue as some let on.
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Nov. 21, 2018 at 5:18 p.m.
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I won't argue with that. What I will say though is how people get paid makes a difference as well. Bonus money can be taxed differently than salary so there are ways to work around tax laws. They just don't seem to be as big an issue as some let on.


Fair point. I think that at the end of the day, there is no certainty anymore. Another lockout seems imminent, and a $5m-$6m contract is the new norm. Whatever does happen, not just with Point or Nylander, or whoever, will certainly be something to keep an eye on.
 
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