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Buying out Marleau and Resigning him

Team: 2019-20 Arizona Coyotes
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 2, 2018
Published: Dec. 2, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Obviously Marleau would have to agree to this but if the Leafs resigned him again he could make a couple million dollars more next year without even leaving his house.
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ARI
  1. Brown, Connor
  2. Marleau, Patrick
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  1. 2020 4th round pick (ARI)
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Buy out Marleau
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2022
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19$82,500,000$73,837,776$0$1,275,000$8,662,224
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,275,000$5,275,000
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NMC
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
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UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
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UFA - 1
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$821,666$821,666 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C
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UFA - 1
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$3,350,000$3,350,000
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M-NTC
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$885,833$885,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
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$7,260,000$7,260,000
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$3,937,500$3,937,500
RD
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UFA - 2
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
G
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$5,475,000$5,475,000
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UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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NMC
UFA - 2
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$1,850,000$1,850,000
G
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$1,375,000$1,375,000
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
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Dec. 2, 2018 at 2:26 p.m.
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Please stop with the crazy idea. It's not going to happen.
Dec. 2, 2018 at 2:48 p.m.
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You should probably learn the rules about this sort of thing before posting. Go ahead....google it.
Dec. 2, 2018 at 4:21 p.m.
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Connor
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Quoting: Gofnut999
You should probably learn the rules about this sort of thing before posting. Go ahead....google it.


Quoting: wojme
Please stop with the crazy idea. It's not going to happen.


If it’s crazy and it works it’s not crazy. All possiblities and loopholes should be explored, especially considering the benefits of 6 million in extra cap space next year. If you think Dubas and Pridham didn’t consider the possiblitity of moving Marleau’s third year then why did they front load his contract? This exact scenario was investigated by the NHL concerning the Brooks Orpik trade, buy-out, and resigning last year and they ruled it to be completely legal. What am I supposed to google?
Dec. 4, 2018 at 11:17 a.m.
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Its a 35+ contract which means no cap relief if bought out.
Dec. 5, 2018 at 8:01 a.m.
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Connor
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Quoting: skysniper_11
Its a 35+ contract which means no cap relief if bought out.


Yes, so exactly like Brooks Orpik (was 37)
Dec. 5, 2018 at 8:07 a.m.
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Quoting: ConnorMcSchulenberg
Yes, so exactly like Brooks Orpik (was 37)


rolling eyes Huh? shakes head

That's... That's not... That's not how contracts... oh FFS why even bother?
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Dec. 5, 2018 at 8:23 a.m.
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1. Dubas and Pridham didn't sign Marleau. That was Lou
2. I don't think cash can be traded anymore
3. Marleau would need to agree to waive his NMC (both to get traded and to be placed on waivers)
4. I don't think this is very likely
5. Despite 1-4, it is theoretically possible. Leafs trade Marleau + something Zona likes to the Coyotes. Coyotes place him on waivers. If he clears, they buy him out. Then the Leafs re-sign him.
6. Given his low salary in the final year, it would only cost Zona $416,667 in each of 19-20 and 20-21, while the cap hit is $6,250,00 for 19-20. This could be attractive from their point of view especially if they're getting a pick or player they like
7. At 1 year and 6.25m, I am not certain Marleau would pass through waivers. So, would Marleau agree to waive his NTC knowing there's a chance he wouldn't have any control over being claimed by another team? Would zona

Again...it's possible...possibly attractive from Zona and Toronto's point of view, but from everything I've read about Marleau, I can't see a sceneario where he'd waive his NTC
Dec. 5, 2018 at 7:41 p.m.
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Connor
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Quoting: Juice
1. Dubas and Pridham didn't sign Marleau. That was Lou
2. I don't think cash can be traded anymore
3. Marleau would need to agree to waive his NMC (both to get traded and to be placed on waivers)
4. I don't think this is very likely
5. Despite 1-4, it is theoretically possible. Leafs trade Marleau + something Zona likes to the Coyotes. Coyotes place him on waivers. If he clears, they buy him out. Then the Leafs re-sign him.
6. Given his low salary in the final year, it would only cost Zona $416,667 in each of 19-20 and 20-21, while the cap hit is $6,250,00 for 19-20. This could be attractive from their point of view especially if they're getting a pick or player they like
7. At 1 year and 6.25m, I am not certain Marleau would pass through waivers. So, would Marleau agree to waive his NTC knowing there's a chance he wouldn't have any control over being claimed by another team? Would zona

Again...it's possible...possibly attractive from Zona and Toronto's point of view, but from everything I've read about Marleau, I can't see a sceneario where he'd waive his NTC


Thanks, you bring up a lot of good points, I hadn’t considered anyone claiming him off waivers due his contract but that would definitely be a problem. Marleau isn’t going to waive his NTC but I had hoped Dubas could put together a sales pitch about how he could make more money and still stay with the team while increasing his chances at a cup. The more I think about it the more it seems too risky for Marleau. Really unfortunate because it could’ve been a win-win-win situation.
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