The Leafs should do what WSH did to Orpik with Marleau

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Created by: TanSor

Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 2, 2018

Published: Dec. 2, 2018

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Here's what I would do if I were Dubas:

Last offseason Washington traded Grubauer along with Orpik to Colorado for a 2nd round pick. Colorado bought out Orpik only for him to re-sign with Washington for a significantly lower cap hit. That's what I would do with Marleau, trade him to a team like Vancouver (who will have a lot of space next year) along with a decent pick in exchange for a worse pick for them to buy him out. He's only owed $4.25M in salary next year so if the Laafs re-signed him to that amount, that would be his cap hit on a 1 year deal saving them $2M in space.

These are mainly worst-case scenario for contracts and I didn't change term (except for Marner and Matthews) since this was more to see the cap hit for this year.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Matthews, Auston	8	$12,000,000
Marner, Mitchell	8	$9,500,000
Sparks, Garret	2	$950,000
Ozhiganov, Igor	2	$1,500,000
Johnsson, Andreas	2	$1,500,000
Kapanen, Kasperi	2	$2,900,000
Leivo, Josh	2	$1,200,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Lindholm, Pär		2	$1,200,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Marleau, Patrick		1	$4,250,000

Trades

TOR

2019 4th round pick

Vancouver buys out Marleau

VAN

Marleau, Patrick

Additional Details:

2019 2nd round pick

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,000,000	$81,483,199	$0	$400,000	$516,801

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 6	Marner, Mitchell $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW UFA - 6
Kapanen, Kasperi $2,900,000$2,900,000 RW UFA - 3	Matthews, Auston $12,000,000$12,000,000 C UFA - 5	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 5
Marleau, Patrick $4,250,000$4,250,000	Kadri, Nazem $4,500,000$4,500,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Brown, Connor $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Johnsson, Andreas $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4		Leivo, Josh $1,200,000$1,200,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
	Lindholm, Pär $1,200,000$1,200,000 LW, C UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 3	Zaitsev, Nikita $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 5	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Dermott, Travis $863,333$863,333 LD/RD UFA - 1	Ozhiganov, Igor $1,500,000$1,500,000 RD UFA
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167$894,167 LD UFA - 3	Liljegren, Timothy $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 3	Sparks, Garret $950,000$950,000 G UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Gauthier, Frédérik $675,000$675,000 C UFA - 1		Horton, Nathan $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Holl, Justin $675,000$675,000 RD UFA - 1

Dec. 2, 2018 at 3:18 p.m.

Random2152

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The league was pissed off the first time, but let it slip. I seriously doubt this wouldn't have consequences if we did it.

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Dec. 2, 2018 at 3:19 p.m.

Capitalfail67

Caps fan idk why

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Quoting: Random2152

The league was pissed off the first time, but let it slip. I seriously doubt this wouldn't have consequences if we did it.

I agree caps got very lucky.

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Dec. 2, 2018 at 3:28 p.m.

Price_is_the_goat

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the above point is valid. also, marleau has a nmc/ntc. why would he waive.

Dec. 2, 2018 at 3:29 p.m.

Random2152

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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat

the above point is valid. also, marleau has a nmc/ntc. why would he waive.

Because he comes back? He isn't actually leaving.

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Dec. 2, 2018 at 3:31 p.m.

Price_is_the_goat

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Quoting: Random2152

Because he comes back? He isn't actually leaving.

idk if the league will allow this type of move again tbh

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Dec. 2, 2018 at 3:34 p.m.

TanSor

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Quoting: Random2152

The league was pissed off the first time, but let it slip. I seriously doubt this wouldn't have consequences if we did it.

Quoting: Price_is_the_goat

idk if the league will allow this type of move again tbh

It's worth trying for the Leafs IMO

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Dec. 2, 2018 at 3:59 p.m.

Trickster

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Orpiks deal was signed in the previous CBA
Marleau this CBA, Macau caught be bought out I think

Dec. 2, 2018 at 4:17 p.m.

leafsFan1996

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For all the people saying the NHL won't allow it, why? If it was against the CBA they wouldn't let Washington do it, they might not like teams doing it but they can't stop them. TBH i love this idea a lot, I would sign him for way less than 4.25, but the idea is a great realistic way to get under that contract

Dec. 2, 2018 at 4:25 p.m.

Random2152

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Quoting: leafsFan1996

The NHL sent a memo around after Orpik that they were pissed off and not to do it again. They consider it cap circumvention, which they can punish at their discretion.

Dec. 2, 2018 at 4:55 p.m.

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Quoting: Random2152

The NHL sent a memo around after Orpik that they were pissed off and not to do it again. They consider it cap circumvention, which they can punish at their discretion.

That's so dumb, if they let one team do it they should let all teams do it. If they don't like it they should have a clear rule saying it is cap circumvention or not allow Washington to resign him.

Dec. 2, 2018 at 4:58 p.m.

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Random2152

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Quoting: leafsFan1996

That's so dumb, if they let one team do it they should let all teams do it. If they don't like it they should have a clear rule saying it is cap circumvention or not allow Washington to resign him.

I think because it is not technically against the CBA, they couldn't prevent the signing without the NHLPA getting all pissy, which is why they let it go through. If it happens again I expect it to be like the mega contracts that get cap recapture penalties added to them.

Dec. 2, 2018 at 5:26 p.m.

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Ryminister_27

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This idea was already mentioned a couple months ago. Basically Marleau agrees to move his NMC on July 1 after Toronto pays his signing bonus, and Dubas has a handshake agreement with whatever team he trades Marleau + whatever other assets to, then Leafs sign him for cheap when he's a free agent. That way the team getting him just takes on the high cap hit and barely pays him anything and they get a young asset in return. The league might not have liked it the first time, but there's legally nothing they can do about it until the CBA expires. It's a loop-hole that a team found, until the CBA is renegotiated and states that it's illegal, the NHL can't do anything about it.

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