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Leafs Side of Larsson Trade

Created by: LobbysOilers
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 7, 2018
Published: Dec. 7, 2018
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Im not saying Larsson is a top 2 dman cos hes not, but i think hed be a fit with Rielly so thats why hes there.
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Dec. 7, 2018 at 5:03 p.m.
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This trade means that TO is effectively paying a 20 point middle pair defensive defenceman over 5 million a year. Larsson is not all that much better than Zaitsev and you are asking the Leafs to take on his salary, pay Zaitsev a 1 million a year and it'll also cost Brown and Johnsson to do that.

There is no way you can spin this to make it look like anything other than a complete an utter steal for the Oilers. They get 2 players who will play in their top 6 and a right handed defenceman who isn't much worse than the guy they traded and on top of all of that, they save another million off of Zaitsev's contract.

Seriously just stop it dude, this is just terrible.
Dec. 7, 2018 at 5:10 p.m.
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I think there's a typo where instead of Zaitsev (1m retained), Brown, and Johnsson, the Leafs offer Johnsson and Hainsey.
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Dec. 7, 2018 at 5:14 p.m.
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
This trade means that TO is effectively paying a 20 point middle pair defensive defenceman over 5 million a year. Larsson is not all that much better than Zaitsev and you are asking the Leafs to take on his salary, pay Zaitsev a 1 million a year and it'll also cost Brown and Johnsson to do that.

There is no way you can spin this to make it look like anything other than a complete an utter steal for the Oilers. They get 2 players who will play in their top 6 and a right handed defenceman who isn't much worse than the guy they traded and on top of all of that, they save another million off of Zaitsev's contract.

Seriously just stop it dude, this is just terrible.


i have 4 notifications on this website and theyre all from you, maybe go outside and play, its a beautiful day
Dec. 7, 2018 at 5:21 p.m.
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I actually think this is fair value, no matter what other leaf fans think. Well done
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Dec. 7, 2018 at 5:27 p.m.
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i have 4 notifications on this website and theyre all from you, maybe go outside and play, its a beautiful day


That is the best thing I've heard on here for a while! Although its definitely winter time here in Thunder Bay, but no outdoor rinks are ready yet.
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Dec. 7, 2018 at 6:02 p.m.
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I actually think this is fair value, no matter what other leaf fans think. Well done


Dude, come on. You know the retained salary is a little much, and for Leaf fans to not want to take on 1mill of retained salary when we already have 1,2. I think thats pretty fair. We really need to stop blowing the hate out of the water here. I know you and I have had our debates in the past and we have disagreed but very rarely do I call you out. I have too this time. Better the devil you know than the one you dont. I keep Zaitsev if the ask is to retain salary.

Plus people NEED to remember that Brown had more points than McDavid when they played together it Junior. If they can touch any of that magic, Oilers are golden.
Dec. 7, 2018 at 6:14 p.m.
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Seems like a bad deal for the Leafs when they trade three regulars for one, especially when Zaitsev and Larsson are about the same value. Weak replacements on the wing.
Dec. 7, 2018 at 6:48 p.m.
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From an Edmonton perspective I'd be hesitant. Larsson is extremely underrated IMO. He's a really good defensive defenceman. I think he's definitely a step up on Zaitsev, but with brown and Johnsson its definitely fair value. I'd probably say yes
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Dec. 7, 2018 at 8:54 p.m.
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Dude, come on. You know the retained salary is a little much, and for Leaf fans to not want to take on 1mill of retained salary when we already have 1,2. I think thats pretty fair. We really need to stop blowing the hate out of the water here. I know you and I have had our debates in the past and we have disagreed but very rarely do I call you out. I have too this time. Better the devil you know than the one you dont. I keep Zaitsev if the ask is to retain salary.

Plus people NEED to remember that Brown had more points than McDavid when they played together it Junior. If they can touch any of that magic, Oilers are golden.


oh boy idc how an overager played with potentially the best junior player of all time, hes probably not seeing time away from the 3rd line unless its on the PP. as for the retained salary sure its hard to stomach but Larsson is on a sweetheart contract and Zaitsev is getting 2M more than hes worth. hard to justify edmonton paying 4.5M for a guy to play on their 3rd pair
Dec. 7, 2018 at 8:55 p.m.
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Seems like a bad deal for the Leafs when they trade three regulars for one, especially when Zaitsev and Larsson are about the same value. Weak replacements on the wing.


please show your work. how are zaitsev and larsson comparable?
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Dec. 7, 2018 at 9:25 p.m.
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please show your work. how are zaitsev and larsson comparable?


Show my work? You're the one that made the trade three NHL regulars for one.....The stats I looked show their isn't much difference. But getting minor leagues to replace Johnsson and Brown is folly.
Want to add Larsson to the Leafs fine, but at the expensed of Zaitsev and two other regulars and would only the RHD marginally ,,,,an overpayment
Dec. 7, 2018 at 10:56 p.m.
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Show my work? You're the one that made the trade three NHL regulars for one.....The stats I looked show their isn't much difference. But getting minor leagues to replace Johnsson and Brown is folly.
Want to add Larsson to the Leafs fine, but at the expensed of Zaitsev and two other regulars and would only the RHD marginally ,,,,an overpayment


hey man wanna trade Caggiula Russell and Lucic for Rielly? 3 nhl regulars for one right??? zaitsev is a cap dump. so is brown. johnsson is the only thing of significant value going to edmonton while toronto gets a guys who can play on their top pair and complement their #1 defenseman
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Dec. 8, 2018 at 12:01 p.m.
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hey man wanna trade Caggiula Russell and Lucic for Rielly? 3 nhl regulars for one right??? zaitsev is a cap dump. so is brown. johnsson is the only thing of significant value going to edmonton while toronto gets a guys who can play on their top pair and complement their #1 defenseman


Washington could really use Brown on the PK and as a middle six RW, now that Oshie and Wilson got brained. His cap hit is pretty similar to Michal Kempny's. Kempny is slightly more valuable, but Tor can balance however they like, in my book..... but not Zaitsev. Love the player, can't afford the contract.
Dec. 8, 2018 at 12:04 p.m.
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Dude, come on. You know the retained salary is a little much, and for Leaf fans to not want to take on 1mill of retained salary when we already have 1,2. I think thats pretty fair. We really need to stop blowing the hate out of the water here. I know you and I have had our debates in the past and we have disagreed but very rarely do I call you out. I have too this time. Better the devil you know than the one you dont. I keep Zaitsev if the ask is to retain salary.

Plus people NEED to remember that Brown had more points than McDavid when they played together it Junior. If they can touch any of that magic, Oilers are golden.


Yeah I don’t like the retained salary. Didn’t see that part at first. I think it’s fair if there’s no salary retained
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Dec. 8, 2018 at 8:59 p.m.
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Yeah I don’t like the retained salary. Didn’t see that part at first. I think it’s fair if there’s no salary retained


fair enough, i could take that out, but money would have to be retained on brown IMO
 
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