the thing is if marner asks for even 8,550,000 then you're done

He can ask for it but 7.5M is more than he'll get.

Marner = between Draisaitl and Kucherov. Matthews = between Eichel and McDavid. Do the math and you get 9 million for Marner and 11.5 for Matthews, you're welcome.

Not sure if serious.... Nylander's contract is 45M over 6 years. If he didn't sign midseason, that'd be a 7.5M AAV. Marner's gotten 61P, 69P, and is currently getting 1.38 points/game (113 point pace). That will likely die down some but he's still very likely to get atleast 82 points. He'll get more that Nylander. He'll have every right to ask for more than 8.5M. Don't know where he'll land but i think 8.5M - 9.0M would be starting range.

1.5 million is too much for Sparky, and 3 million is too less for Kappy, take half million from Sparky and give it to Kappy.

I'm cool with that.

I think if it came down to 500k, he'd gladly give it up to keep the team together.

Marner being the Canadian might take a home town discount, obviously the Swede and American won't (Nylander and Matthews). Watch out for the other Euro's to screw the Leafs, Kappy and Johnnson who might shout "Show me Da Money!!!". I prefer Brown and Hyman over those 2 Euro's, I know Babcock likes Euro's from his Detroit days but come playoff time the Euros' desire and heart isn't comparable to the North Americans. This is why I'd prefer Skinner on the Leafs and Nylander with his kid brother on the Sabres.

hedman took a hometown discount.. and he's a swede..
maybe don't judge a player based on what country he's from?

Careful now... There is a lot more to it than that. PPG and cap hit percentages are more important. Nylander is 8.75% for all years other than year one. Gaudreau is 9.25% and is Marner's high water mark even if he finishes with 90+ this year.



Your fan math is good but it Kucherov isn't a comp and the numbers are high.

Using the Toews and Kane model - 11.09% after winning a Cup, at 83M, that's 9.2M now. And neither Marner or Matthews is as valuable as those two were to their team then.

I know it's easy to look at what two bottom teams signed their players to and expect the Leafs to do the same, but it is not realistic. Neither are deals longer than 5 or 6 years.

I forgot to point out that Nylander's deal isn't for 45M, that number is prorated and the real money is a little less than 42M, or just his actual cap hit years 2 through 6.

What ever math you wanna do, it'll still equal 20 million split between M n' M long term. Honestly Marner can be argued as being better than Matthews. Watching the Leafs play the Bruins right now and you can tell the Leafs will be 1st Round losers again if they don't add team toughness and defensive.