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My Updated Top 50 Players at Each Position w Custom NHL19 Ratings

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Team: 2018-19 Custom Team
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 13, 2018
Published: Dec. 13, 2018
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C
McDavid 95
Crosby 93
Mackinnon 92
Matthews 92
Malkin 92
Barkov 90
Eichel 90
Tavares 90
Bergeron 90
Scheifele 89
Kopitar 89
Point 88
Stamkos 88
Backstrom 88
Kuznetsov 88
Getzlaf 88
Seguin 88
O’Reilly 87
Barzal 87
Toews 86
Trocheck 86
Couturier 86
Couture 86
Monahan 86
Petterson 85
Larkin 85
Duchene 85
Krejci 85
W Karlsson 85
Horvat 85
E Staal 85
Zibanejad 85
Nugent-Hopkins 85
R Johansen 85
Dubois 85
Domi 85
Koivu 84
B Schenn 83
Kadri 83
Hischier 83
Backlund 83
Carter 83
Stastny 83
Thornton 83
Turris 83
K Hayes 83
Stepan 83
J Staal 82
Henrique 82
Schmaltz 82


LW
Ovechkin 92
Hall 91
Panarin 89
Giroux 89
Marchand 89
Gaudreau 88
Benn 88
F Forsberg 87
Aho 87
M Tkachuk 86
Skinner 86
Rakell 86
Huberdeau 85
Kreider 85
Marchessault 85
Ehlers 85
Pacioretty 85
Schwartz 85
Landeskog 85
Connor 84
E Kane 84
Meier 84
J van Riemsdyk 84
Parise 84
Zucker 84
Saad 84
Drouin 83
Guentzel 83
DeBrincat 83
B Tkachuk 83
Lee 83
T Johnson 83
Tatar 83
Teravainen 83
Marleau 82
Kovalchuk 82
Galchenyuk 82
Dzingel 82
Athanasiou 82
Palat 82
Fiala 81
DeBrusk 81
N Foligno 81
Boedker 81
Steen 81
Vanek 81
Byron 81
Killorn 81
Svechnikov 81
Vrana 81



RW
Kucherov 92
P Kane 90
Stone 89
Wheeler 88
Rantanen 88
Pastrnak 88
Marner 88
Laine 88
Tarasenko 88
Draisaitl 87
Kessel 86
Pavelski 86
W Nylander 86
Voracek 85
Radulov 85
Dadonov 85
Boeser 85
Granlund 85
Atkinson 85
Hoffman 85
Arvidsson 85
Gallagher 84
Keller 84
Reinhart 84
E Lindholm 84
Palmieri 84
Hertl 84
Gourde 83
Nyquist 83
Tuch 83
Bailey 83
Eberle 83
Oshie 83
Niederreiter 83
J Miller 83
Hornqvist 83
T Wilson 82
D Brown 82
Perry 82
C Smith 82
R Smith 82
Konecny 82
Simmonds 82
Silfverberg 82
Zuccarello 82
Perron 82
Okposo 82
Ferland 82
Kase 82
Kapanen 81


D
E Karlsson 91
Doughty 91
P Subban 90
Josi 90
Hedman 90
Burns 90
S Jones 89
Letang 88
Giordano 88
Pietrangelo 88
Klingberg 87
Ekman-Larsson 87
Byfuglien 87
Rielly 87
Werenski 87
H Lindholm 87
Fowler 87
Carlson 86
Petry 86
S Weber 86
Suter 86
Spurgeon 86
Barrie 86
McAvoy 86
Krug 86
Slavin 86
D Hamilton 86
Gostisbehere 85
Provorov 85
Parayko 85
Dumba 85
Vlasic 85
Keith 85
McDonagh 85
R Ellis 85
Yandle 84
Ekblad 84
Dahlin 84
Ristolainen 84
Klefbom 84
Trouba 84
Theodore 84
Ekholm 84
Faulk 84
Orlov 84
Chara 84
Manson 84
Brodie 84
Schmidt 84
Chabot 84


G
Gibson 89
Rinne 89
Andersen 88
Bobrovsky 88
Vasilevskiy 88
Price 87
Raanta 87
Lundqvist 87
Hellebuyck 87
Fleury 86
Holtby 86
Crawford 86
Luongo 86
Quick 86
Dubnyk 85
Rask 85
Bishop 85
Varlamov 85
Hutton 85
Howard 84
R Miller 84
M Jones 84
Halak 83
M Smith 83
Murray 83
Saros 82
Kinkaid 82
Koskinen 82
Talbot 82
Lehner 82
Greiss 82
Grubauer 82
Rittich 82
Markstrom 81
McElhinney 81
Schneider 81
Anderson 81
Elliott 81
Allen 81
Dell 80
DeSmith 80
Kuemper 80
Khudobin 80
Reimer 80
Ullmark 79
Nilsson 79
Sparks 79
Petersen 79
J Campbell 79
Stalock 79


Top 10 Legends

1. Gretzky 99
2. Orr 97
3. Lemeuix 96
4. Howe 95
5. Hasek 95
6. Jagr 95
7. Bossy 95
8. Richard 95
9. Yzerman 95
10. Esposito 95
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LW
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LW
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Dec. 13, 2018 at 8:59 p.m.
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Dec. 13, 2018 at 9:11 p.m.
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Looks good...nitpicking- Anderson/Vasi should be up top, karlsson isn’t the same anymore, point 89
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Dec. 13, 2018 at 9:29 p.m.
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86 for kessel is low, definitely an 88
I think stamkos and Seguin could be a bit higher as well
Dec. 13, 2018 at 9:51 p.m.
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Senko, Manson, Kase, DeBrincat still too low
Dec. 13, 2018 at 10:02 p.m.
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I know you do your own thing so I'm just going full attack mode and you can sort what you want to do and not!

I'd move up Backlund twice and Kadri at least once, I think they're both better than William Karlsson. Kevin Hayes, Jordan Staal up once each. Barkov and Bergeron to me are better than the players in their tier.
I'd move up Klingberg twice, Ekman-Larsson once, Orlov twice, Hamilton, Slavin, Parayko, all once and Ekholm twice as well
Move up Radulov 1-2, Dadonov 1-2, Nylander, Tarasenko, Granlund, Zuccarello and probably Wheeler once each, I think they stand out in their respective tiers.
Marchand, Palat, DeBrusk, Fiala, Kovalchuk and Marchessault all up
Crawford +1 as well

Some players I think you could take a point off of are:
Josi, Burns, Provorov, Weber, W.Karlsson, Horvat, Dubois, RNH, Matthews, Domi, Lee, Atkinson, Perry, Parise, Price
And I honestly think Ovechkin is more in the tier of Gaudreau than ahead of Hall and Marchand

Morrisey, Muzzin, Strålman and Pesce all better than Justin Faulk for example. Mantha needs to be on this list.
Gallagher, Keller up. Marlaeu, Dzingel down.
I don't think Boedker and Foligno belong on this list

Man, doing this is exhausting, I realize mistakes I've made all the time. I tier together some players and all of a sudden I realize one is clearly better than a good comparison who's a tier above for some reason and I have to re-figure things out. Props to you for trying!
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Dec. 13, 2018 at 10:23 p.m.
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Quoting: mhockey91
86 for kessel is low, definitely an 88
I think stamkos and Seguin could be a bit higher as well


yeah ure probably right...
had to lower both 81 and 91 by at least a point after seeing these rankings that take a lot into account -more than just points, includes advanced stats strength of competition transition and defensive game and more

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/definitive-ranking-nhls-top-20-centres-three-seasons/

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/definitive-ranking-nhls-top-20-right-wingers-three-seasons/
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Dec. 14, 2018 at 12:00 a.m.
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yeah ure probably right...
had to lower both 81 and 91 by at least a point after seeing these rankings that take a lot into account -more than just points, includes advanced stats strength of competition transition and defensive game and more

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/definitive-ranking-nhls-top-20-centres-three-seasons/

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/definitive-ranking-nhls-top-20-right-wingers-three-seasons/


I like advanced stats, but it’s not the be all end all solution to judging players. That list omitted kessel but included Gallagher and Craig smith. Corsi has come along way; but it’s still not 100% accurate obviously
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Dec. 14, 2018 at 7:17 a.m.
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Quoting: mhockey91
I like advanced stats, but it’s not the be all end all solution to judging players. That list omitted kessel but included Gallagher and Craig smith. Corsi has come along way; but it’s still not 100% accurate obviously


I think a healthy balance needs to be applied, but when so many of the other names are there naturally I personally re-think the way I value players, and maybe Gallagher and Craig Smith are guys that play a really subtle but great game. Gallagher is looking a lot like Marchand before he took off to become elite and Craig Smith is basically above average in every single parameter
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Dec. 14, 2018 at 11:05 a.m.
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Quoting: MelonVK
I think a healthy balance needs to be applied, but when so many of the other names are there naturally I personally re-think the way I value players, and maybe Gallagher and Craig Smith are guys that play a really subtle but great game. Gallagher is looking a lot like Marchand before he took off to become elite and Craig Smith is basically above average in every single parameter


I’m not denying they’re good players, I’m just saying; in no way are they top 20 in their position. Corsi is improving and will continue to improve. We are in the “beta” stages of hockey analytics. Even just 5 years from now, corsi will be much more accurate
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I’m not denying they’re good players, I’m just saying; in no way are they top 20 in their position. Corsi is improving and will continue to improve. We are in the “beta” stages of hockey analytics. Even just 5 years from now, corsi will be much more accurate


I mean these stats are in no way restricted to corsi though. Adjusting for zone time, quality of competition and teammates, analyzing 5v5 more heavily etc. I'm a Bruins fan, and was at first kind of upset when they traded Spooner, so I dug into some analytics and it turns out he was one of the most sheltered players in the game and most league average players would produce at a close to if not equal rate in the same situations.

Only doing a simple analysis here: Phil Kessel was 6th in points last year - amazing. He was 26th in even strength points/60, 4 spots ahead of mentioned Spooner, so with the right situation lots of players can look good. I think he's very good, but I attribute more of his success to Crosby and Malkin being who they are. A lot of the depth signed on the Pens get put in insanely good situations. Phil Kessel is by far and away the best forward not named Evgeny or Sidney, but I don't think he's a big of a driver as his point totals indicate, compared to say Hall or Panarin who puts their respective lines on their backs and get a lot less PP-production. For me it's the same with Rantanen as with Kessel - he's great, elite in some aspects, and I'm not discrediting the Avs by saying I don't have him as a top 5 RW, I just attribute more of that impact to MacKinnon
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Dec. 15, 2018 at 5:27 p.m.
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My specialty ends with the sabres lol. But I think these are realistic overalls. When I change my rosters for gm mode those are about the overalls I use
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