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st louis trade

Created by: willdevine
Team: 2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 14, 2018
Published: Dec. 14, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
TOR
  1. Kyrou, Jordan
  2. Parayko, Colton
  3. 2019 3rd round pick (STL)
  4. 2019 7th round pick (STL)
STL
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
  3. Liljegren, Timothy
  4. Zaitsev, Nikita ($500,000 retained)
  5. 2019 1st round pick (TOR)
  6. 2019 4th round pick (STL)
  7. 2020 3rd round pick (TOR)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
2019
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2020
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Logo of the EDM
Logo of the SJS
2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$72,711,111$2,550,000$5,765,000$6,788,889
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 1
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$767,500$767,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 1
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$10,277,778$10,277,778
RW
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$758,333$758,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
RW
UFA - 3
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$650,000$650,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 4
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,050,000$4,050,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 2

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Dec. 14, 2018 at 1:33 p.m.
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its not bad. what about parayko, kyrou, 3rd for nylander, liljegren, 1st?

kyrou and liljegren are very debatable but I think Parayko is worth a little more than Nylander in terms of trade value. and that's maybe a drop from 25ish to 65ish in the draft, nothing huge.
Dec. 14, 2018 at 1:46 p.m.
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its not bad. what about parayko, kyrou, 3rd for nylander, liljegren, 1st?

kyrou and liljegren are very debatable but I think Parayko is worth a little more than Nylander in terms of trade value. and that's maybe a drop from 25ish to 65ish in the draft, nothing huge.


You mean a drop from 31-65 because with Parayko its an auto win
Dec. 14, 2018 at 1:55 p.m.
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Do it.
Dec. 14, 2018 at 3:15 p.m.
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Leafs wouldn't want to do it and can't afford giving up it's cheapest young forwards.
Dec. 14, 2018 at 3:21 p.m.
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Leafs wouldn't want to do it and can't afford giving up it's cheapest young forwards.


Depends on how you look at it. Come next year, Kyrou and Grundstrom would be a lot cheaper than Kapanen and Johnsson. Then there would be another cheap/ELC year, then you bridge them. After watching Kapanen and Kyrou quite a bit, I'm not sure you're losing anything in that swap - very similar players - you're just pushing the rise in salary two years into the future.

I'm still not convinced it's a good enough return for STL, especially with Zaitsev taking up all our cap space.
Dec. 14, 2018 at 3:27 p.m.
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Depends on how you look at it. Come next year, Kyrou and Grundstrom would be a lot cheaper than Kapanen and Johnsson. Then there would be another cheap/ELC year, then you bridge them. After watching Kapanen and Kyrou quite a bit, I'm not sure you're losing anything in that swap - very similar players - you're just pushing the rise in salary two years into the future.

I'm still not convinced it's a good enough return for STL, especially with Zaitsev taking up all our cap space.


Ya OK it's a brutal trade.

Let me know when Kryou is on pace for 30 goals / 60 points ... without any power-play time ... playing on your first PK unit.

Johnsson would also be on pace for 60 points if he played 18 minutes a game.

May as well add in two 1st round picks right?

LMAO.
Dec. 14, 2018 at 3:32 p.m.
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Ya OK it's a brutal trade.

Let me know when Kryou is on pace for 30 goals / 60 points ... without any power-play time ... playing on your first PK unit.

Johnsson would also be on pace for 60 points if he played 18 minutes a game.

May as well add in two 1st round picks right?

LMAO.


You expect Kyrou (draft + 3) to have the same stats as Kapanen (draft + 5)? While he's in the AHL instead of on the 2nd place team? Kapanen had 9 NHL pts before this season (1 pt at Kyrou's age), let's give Kyrou a chance to develop like Kapanen got eh.

And when are you going to get to the part where we're trading a cost-controlled 2-way RHD for no apparent reason for some future pieces that may or may not be of any impact? Brutal for sure.
Dec. 14, 2018 at 3:42 p.m.
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You expect Kyrou (draft + 3) to have the same stats as Kapanen (draft + 5)? While he's in the AHL instead of on the 2nd place team? Kapanen had 9 NHL pts before this season (1 pt at Kyrou's age), let's give Kyrou a chance to develop like Kapanen got eh.

And when are you going to get to the part where we're trading a cost-controlled 2-way RHD for no apparent reason for some future pieces that may or may not be of any impact? Brutal for sure.


Brutal trade regardless. Unicorn brutal.

Kyrou might end up this good in 2 years .... but isn't yet .... which makes him worth less than Kapanen.

Just a brutall all around logic and thought process too.

Stop putting thoughts on the internet .....
Dec. 14, 2018 at 3:46 p.m.
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Brutal trade regardless. Unicorn brutal.

Kyrou might end up this good in 2 years .... but isn't yet .... which makes him worth less than Kapanen.

Just a brutall all around logic and thought process too.

Stop putting thoughts on the internet .....


k bud. if the trade was Kapanen for Kyrou, then you're right. But the deal is about Parayko. What's up with all the "..." are your thoughts too slow for your fingers?
Dec. 14, 2018 at 5:07 p.m.
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k bud. if the trade was Kapanen for Kyrou, then you're right. But the deal is about Parayko. What's up with all the "..." are your thoughts too slow for your fingers?



Brutal trade though .....
Dec. 15, 2018 at 1:23 a.m.
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Leafs wouldn't want to do it and can't afford giving up it's cheapest young forwards.


honestly, kappanen and johnsson are easily replaceable. we have plenty of wingers in the marlies, 2-3 easily ready for call-up no problem. we're good
Dec. 15, 2018 at 1:26 a.m.
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its not bad. what about parayko, kyrou, 3rd for nylander, liljegren, 1st?

kyrou and liljegren are very debatable but I think Parayko is worth a little more than Nylander in terms of trade value. and that's maybe a drop from 25ish to 65ish in the draft, nothing huge.


i think having just signing nylander, i dont think he'll be traded. but, its a decent counter proposal. i figured adding both kappy and johnsson would equal the value of a nylander. ones already a top 6, and one could be a potential top 6 with the right linemates. but, totally fair to ask for nylander
 
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