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Investing in our Youth to Play Minutes

Created by: Billy316
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 20, 2018
Published: Dec. 20, 2018
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Danault's the most skilled Center to hit the TDL market since Vermette went to CHI but unlike Vermette he's got 1 year left on his 3m dollar deal and come 2020 that cap vs production will be the best thing on the market i've got no doubt .

taking fair market value on Danault and giving him to a team who could utilize him going forward longterm to help carry the over flow of Malkin's lack luster numbers at center by giving Danault who's taken 1/2 of all MTL's faceoffs the DZ starts in bulk cycling off after possessions gained to let Malkins line wreak havoc .

what PIT is giving up isnt much when you remember this is 2020 TDL and Maatta will have 2 years left at age 26 before going UFA and JB .


Berglund is brought in on a 1 year deal in 2019 and earned a 2nd 1 year deal in 2020 for it with the role of helping Poehling adjust to Faceoffs in the NHL
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
3$890,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,810,000
2$950,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,900,000
Trades
MTL
  1. Bellerive, Jordy
  2. Määttä, Olli
  3. 2021 1st round pick (PIT)
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PIT i think will be in the playoffs in 2021 and in this scenario would get a 25th-32nd pick in the 2021 draft.

MTL gets a LD who speaks finnish to further confuse opponents while also helping build a support base around Jesperi who will wear the CH for us for a long time .

Bellerive is an undrafted pick up PIT has that fits MTL system nicely . he could bust and be a career AHL'er like Aggistino or he could be a regular contributor like Desharnais was for a long time for MTL

overally MTL is getting a late 1st , a B+ prospect and Maatta who's according to PIT fan only fine when he plays with Schultz. (i'm assuming if Weber can Carry Beaulieu,Emelin ,Benn,Reilly ,Kulak and Mete then he's going to do fine with Maatta )
PIT
  1. Danault, Phillip
Additional Details:
MTL gives up a great Possession Center to make room for the kids to grow .
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$72,032,034$0$3,525,000$7,467,966

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 2
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 3
$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,810,000$1,810,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 1
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,333,225$3,333,225
LD
UFA - 3
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$748,333$748,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$890,000$890,000
LD
RFA
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$175,000$175K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Dec. 20, 2018 at 3:40 p.m.
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Scott Walford ready for the NHL ? Berglund for 2M or less for a season maybe. My opinion, Lehkonen left wing & Armia right wing ( No Berglund ). Did you trade Armia or just forgot him ?
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Dec. 20, 2018 at 3:46 p.m.
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Danault may fetch a 2nd and 3rd at best no way a 1st matta and more
Dec. 20, 2018 at 3:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Poehling
Scott Walford ready for the NHL ? Berglund for 2M or less for a season maybe. My opinion, Lehkonen left wing & Armia right wing ( No Berglund ). Did you trade Armia or just forgot him ?


Walford's more ready today then Mete was when we brought him up , watch the guy play live he's a beauty .

Armia is not tendered an offer Evans and Poehlings addition to bottom line pushed him out in favor of faceoff wingers who can help them as without Danault they are expected to take minimum 700 faceoffs each with Kotkanemi and Poehling looking at 1300 minimum to balance out the 5000 faceoffs MTL average's.

if Armia could win a faceoff he's be in over Chaput or Shaw but he cannot and i personally like Deslauriers more then Armia (no knock against him he's good ).
Dec. 20, 2018 at 3:53 p.m.
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Danault may fetch a 2nd and 3rd at best no way a 1st matta and more


then you sir are high

7th in NHL faceoffs , 10th in NHL faceoff % and 11th in Faceoff Wins as his first year playing top center role , Each and every season in his young career he jumps ahead in this area getting better and better so if you think that has no value to PIT who's got Crosby who's 8th in NHL faceoffs taken just doesnt make sense as it would take infinite pressure off guys like Malkin and make it harder for teams to shut down their centers while adding a player who scores 90% of his points 5v5 . . . .

i get it he's not in your fantasy league , that doesnt mean anything to those who actually follow the sport not the fantasy

Maatta will be a 26 year old with 2 seasons left and if he keeps declining as hard as he has been your Depth is going to replace him and leave him a healthy scratch even more then he is now . his value 2 years ago i'd agree with your statement but he's not the player he was for whatever reason people who shouldnt be are surpassing him on a championship caliber team
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Dec. 20, 2018 at 3:59 p.m.
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My goodness, dreaming in technicolor Billy. A 1st rounder where Pittsburgh is right now is more than fair value for Danault. Maatta and Bellerive too?

Im sorry man but the bias is strong in this post. I won't dismiss Walford because who knows he may surprise but chances are he'll go to Laval way before making the NHL outright.
Dec. 20, 2018 at 4:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy316
then you sir are high

7th in NHL faceoffs , 10th in NHL faceoff % and 11th in Faceoff Wins as his first year playing top center role , Each and every season in his young career he jumps ahead in this area getting better and better so if you think that has no value to PIT who's got Crosby who's 8th in NHL faceoffs taken just doesnt make sense as it would take infinite pressure off guys like Malkin and make it harder for teams to shut down their centers while adding a player who scores 90% of his points 5v5 . . . .

i get it he's not in your fantasy league , that doesnt mean anything to those who actually follow the sport not the fantasy

Maatta will be a 26 year old with 2 seasons left and if he keeps declining as hard as he has been your Depth is going to replace him and leave him a healthy scratch even more then he is now . his value 2 years ago i'd agree with your statement but he's not the player he was for whatever reason people who shouldnt be are surpassing him on a championship caliber team


Yes he is good at faceoffs but offensively and his underlying numbers are not good whatsoever and his points per game as the top center are horrible if thats your number 1 center 18/35 barely over 0.5 he does not warrant a 1st to any team.
Dec. 20, 2018 at 4:15 p.m.
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My goodness, dreaming in technicolor Billy. A 1st rounder where Pittsburgh is right now is more than fair value for Danault. Maatta and Bellerive too?

Im sorry man but the bias is strong in this post. I won't dismiss Walford because who knows he may surprise but chances are he'll go to Laval way before making the NHL outright.


he says not reading what he's commenting on

what they are doing this year matters in the 2019 draft what they do in next year matters in the 2020 but what they do in 2020 matters in the 2021 1st round . . . .

i dont get why people refuse to read what they comment on . . .
Dec. 20, 2018 at 4:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Bloodykisame
Yes he is good at faceoffs but offensively and his underlying numbers are not good whatsoever and his points per game as the top center are horrible if thats your number 1 center 18/35 barely over 0.5 he does not warrant a 1st to any team.


again you're talking Fantasy , i'm talking a role player on a team that desperately has been rotating through multiple Center's trying to find what Danault can bring for years .

Danault also got most of his development and Minutes in MTL that has Zero generational stars and PIT has 2 so i would expect to see his offense climb after a move similar to Kappannen's success after being put on a team with Tavares and Mathews .

i get people who dont play hockey or support it at all levels think that a team filled with Fantasy players is the only way to go without considering you'd only have 1 team of stars and 30 teams of regular players if you did so along with Cap nightmare's . in todays NHL post 2012 Performance ,Possession and Cap all factor into Value its how we turned 2 bottom 6 wingers into Danault and Romanov a generational LD playing on KHL's top team as an 18 year old and man handling men twice his age in some cases .

otherwise every trade would be 1 for 1 based on skill and as Drouin for Sergachev and Weber for Subban showed its not the case in todays NHL . if you missed the last lockout or two you might be confused but the rest of us who have a pulse on the game see it .
Dec. 20, 2018 at 4:28 p.m.
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Yeah I’m a habs fan and this makes no sense. Danault is a good 3rd liner. You’d be lucky to get a 2nd and a 3nd. This would be the unreal hall for Larson scenario that people scratch there heads at for years. Wouldn’t hate it but it’s not happening.
Dec. 20, 2018 at 4:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy316
he says not reading what he's commenting on

what they are doing this year matters in the 2019 draft what they do in next year matters in the 2020 but what they do in 2020 matters in the 2021 1st round . . . .

i dont get why people refuse to read what they comment on . . .



Im so confused as what that means exactly but Im commenting on the thing that is most obvious. The one trade you did..... I read the description and that doesn't make it anymore realistic or valid. IMO of course.

As to your draft analogy, yes I understand how years work. I also know that within 3 years even a good team can find themselves in the dumps real quick. Crosby and making get hurt. Boom lottery pick. Danault is a nice possession player but he's really only a 3rd line center when it comes to good teams. Any time he's higher in the lineup you can see the lack of vision he has, not to mention the lack of creativity. Not sure what previous trade would indicate this is valid valuation of Danault.
 
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