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I keep seeing this and I wanna fix it

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Team: 2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 5, 2019
Published: Jan. 5, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Holl has to go, if it's not in this deal it's in waivers. Him or Marincin has to go for the deal to be made either way.

I do NOT think this deal works for this season, and is probably made at the draft, meaning that Holl is not traded. Demers is likely done for a while, so I cannot see the Leafs taking the risk now.

People say that the Leafs should trade Gardiner because he's a UFA and Zaitzev because of the contract. Obviously I didn't do that, and the reason is simple.

We wanna IMPROVE OUR Defence. This doesn't just mean replacing someone. our problem isn't the guys we have per say, it's who we don't. We don't have a 1RD, and although Demers is probably better suited as a 2RD, he is a capable option when healthy.

In this situation, we finally have everything we need to compete. We have a good top pair, and a strong 2nd pair for the role. Dermott plays on the third until Gardiner leaves next year, and now we have a lot of depth that Babcock actually trusts. Our forwards are as strong as ever, and our goaltending is stable depending on injury.
Trades
TOR
  1. Demers, Jason ($1,750,000 retained)
Additional Details:
assuming Demers is recovering quicker than expected, he has to pass a physical and honestly IDK if he will. He was expected to be out for the season but now it seems like he'll be back sooner, but I don't think it's worth doing the move now unless he's 100% going to play.
ARI
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. 2019 1st round pick (TOR)
  3. 2020 7th round pick (SJS)
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2019
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2020
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2021
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24$79,500,000$74,423,611$2,550,000$6,250,000$5,076,389
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$787,500$787,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 1
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$10,277,778$10,277,778
RW
UFA - 6
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333
RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$2,187,500$2,187,500
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,050,000$4,050,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$650,000$650,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2

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Jan. 5, 2019 at 6:28 p.m.
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Arizona laughs at you. They're not gonna retain on a solid top 4 right handed dman just to get a late first round pick, a pointless 7th round pick and Justin Holl who's a decent 7th dman but has no value because he's not played pretty much at all this season. Even not retaining isn't gonna get you Demers. Arizona will want someone that can crack their roster or at least a good prospect.
Try again.
Jan. 5, 2019 at 7:36 p.m.
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All that for Jason Demers? The trade is not worth it.
Jan. 6, 2019 at 11:03 a.m.
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Quoting: TorMapLeafs34
All that for Jason Demers? The trade is not worth it.


...

1) Read the description where I straight up say I don't know if I would do the trade
2) Others have offered WAYYYYYYYY more, and this is actually a pretty general consensus from people I have talked to.
3) The above comment says it's not enough, and I'm not agreeing, but Demers is worth a lot when you consider we need him retained.
4) All that consists of a 25-30 pick, an AHL dman who can't be sent down, and a future 7th rounder.... you wanna complain about the 1st rounder ok, but the other assets are literally useless for both teams and were only included because the Leafs need a roster spot.
Jan. 6, 2019 at 11:06 a.m.
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Quoting: jonesryan
Arizona laughs at you. They're not gonna retain on a solid top 4 right handed dman just to get a late first round pick, a pointless 7th round pick and Justin Holl who's a decent 7th dman but has no value because he's not played pretty much at all this season. Even not retaining isn't gonna get you Demers. Arizona will want someone that can crack their roster or at least a good prospect.
Try again.


I don't disagree that they would want different assets, but others have proposed wayyyyy more (I have seen Gardiner and a 1st/2nd, 2 1sts, and Brown and a 1st), and this is simply what I thought when I saw those.

These assets could frankly get us someone almost as good without worry, it's the problem that Zona wants a roster player and we don't wanna offer that. I would be more inclined to find another target for the same cost or lower. It would probably take Brown and a pick to get this deal with Zona and I don't wanna give up Brown when Ennis is out long term.
 
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