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Team: 2018-19 Washington Capitals
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 6, 2019
Published: Jan. 6, 2019
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My attempt to fit Jamie Benn under the salary cap in Washington without salary retention. It isn't pretty.

Lindell eats more minutes than Orlov, but with less skill. Johansen is a recent first pick, who will be a very good two way defenseman for a long time. Pinho got a bunch of points in college. Lewington is a young enforcer prospect, but he currently leads all NHL defensemen in points/60, so maybe he he can kind of play with a puck, too, if you put him with skill guys. In the Florida deal, Jonsson-Fjallby got two SHG at last year's World Junior Championship, so he's a pretty good defensive forward prospect.

The Edmonton trade and the STL trade are forced by the salary cap. I wouldn't make them, otherwise, but with Dallas fans trying to dump a $52M contract on a recent superstar for picks and prospects, and not take much money on in return, I had to get creative.
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Jan. 6, 2019 at 7:44 p.m.
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Thank you Pavelski
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DAL declines easily. This is one of these quantity for quality trades. If you want Benn and Lindell, we want your top talent, not a bunch of random AHL players that might have played a handful of games in the NHL due to some kind of injury on your main roster...

"Dallas fans trying to dump a $52M contract on a recent superstar", just what does this mean... If you don't consider Benn a superstar, why in the f*ck you're trying to acquire him? Dallas fans consider him as a superstar and he had deserved that kind of salary with his playing (arguably he could do better, but the same thing can be said from our whole team)...
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Jan. 6, 2019 at 7:48 p.m.
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Florida obviously says no. Kuznetsov is a very good player, but Barkov is maybe the best 2 way center in the league on a better contract.

That Dallas trade is horrible.

The STL trade is also horrible. If STL is rebuilding they arent trading young players on good contracts for vets on long term high dollar contracts.
Jan. 6, 2019 at 8:07 p.m.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
DAL declines easily. This is one of these quantity for quality trades. If you want Benn and Lindell, we want your top talent, not a bunch of random AHL players that might have played a handful of games in the NHL due to some kind of injury on your main roster...

"Dallas fans trying to dump a $52M contract on a recent superstar", just what does this mean... If you don't consider Benn a superstar, why in the f*ck you're trying to acquire him? Dallas fans consider him as a superstar and he had deserved that kind of salary with his playing (arguably he could do better, but the same thing can be said from our whole team)...


Orlov is the Caps' best defenseman. Benn and Lindell, together, improve the Caps' penalty kill. One of them alone, for him, would not. Johansen is the Caps' best prospect. The Caps' 2019 1st round pick is their most valuable draft pick. I mean.... yeah, I also threw in some B+ prospects. That doesn't mean the substance of the deal isn't significant. I think Benn's performance this year makes him a good fit with the Caps at 3L. If a huge offer that forces me to remake Washington's entire roster to fit his giant cap hit without retention doesn't interest you, then how much for just Lindell?
Jan. 6, 2019 at 8:09 p.m.
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Orlov is the Caps' best defenseman. Benn and Lindell, together, improve the Caps' penalty kill. One of them alone, for him, would not. Johansen is the Caps' best prospect. The Caps' 2019 1st round pick is their most valuable draft pick. I mean.... yeah, I also threw in some B+ prospects. That doesn't mean the substance of the deal isn't significant. I think Benn's performance this year makes him a good fit with the Caps at 3L. If a huge offer that forces me to remake Washington's entire roster to fit his giant cap hit without retention doesn't interest you, then how much for just Lindell?


Lmao Benn as a 3rd liner laugh

We are not moving Lindell, he has been amazing. Or at the very least, knowing that how much you overvalue your players, you are not gonna pay the amount of what DAL would like...
Jan. 6, 2019 at 8:10 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Florida obviously says no. Kuznetsov is a very good player, but Barkov is maybe the best 2 way center in the league on a better contract.

That Dallas trade is horrible.

The STL trade is also horrible. If STL is rebuilding they arent trading young players on good contracts for vets on long term high dollar contracts.


Thanks, Jerry. I'd love to hear what Dallas and STL fans think of them, though. Or what anyone who's heard of Lucas Johansen or Madison Bowey thinks of them. Those guys are gonna be top pair defensemen pretty soon. But I'd value some experience, heading into the playoffs.
Jan. 6, 2019 at 8:11 p.m.
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Lmao Benn as a 3rd liner laugh

We are not moving Lindell, he has been amazing. Or at the very least, knowing that how much you overvalue your players, you are not gonna pay the amount of what DAL would like...


Okay. Well.... It sounds like Dallas is still going for it, this year. Comment back if anything changes, and good luck in the playoffs!
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Jan. 6, 2019 at 8:12 p.m.
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Okay. Well.... It sounds like Dallas is still going for it, this year. Comment back if anything changes, and good luck in the playoffs!


Thanks. Good luck to Caps as well.
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Jan. 6, 2019 at 8:33 p.m.
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Thanks. Good luck to Caps as well.


Thanks. And to clarify, I don't think the Caps' third line is bad. It was the highest scoring line on either side of the SCF last year. I just think Benn would be even better than Burakovsky in that spot, and could give that line the flexibility to match up against Kessel when he plays 3R in Pittsburgh.... It's not an insult. It's kind of ridiculous that the Caps have two LWs outscoring a recent Art Ross winner. Maybe Vrana moves to the right side. I don't know. I think Lindell and Benn, together, add more to the Caps' PK than Orlov, so if Dallas decided to go in a different direction, including Lindell could be enough to get the Caps to include Orlov in a Benn trade. But they'd also have to clear a ton of cap space if there's no retention.
Jan. 6, 2019 at 8:40 p.m.
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Florida doesn't even think about that trade. Barkov is a top 5-7 C in the league on a steal of a contract.

The Dallas trade is essentially a bunch of throwaways with Orlov and Johansen, not enough at all. Nill probably blocks the Caps management from making any future proposals.

The Blues trade is stupid too. Oshie's contract will be a burden in 2-3 years and Bowey isn't anything special. If St Louis was to trade Parayko, they'd certainly get better offers than that.
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Jan. 6, 2019 at 8:50 p.m.
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Bowey is a cap dump at this point. I don’t care how much he’s being paid, he sucks so bad.
Jan. 6, 2019 at 8:59 p.m.
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Bowey is a cap dump at this point. I don’t care how much he’s being paid, he sucks so bad.


Nonsense.

Bowey is scoring .90 pts/60. Parayko has .74. just needs to build his endurance to play bigger minutes, and he'll be better. Is St. Louis ready to start rebuilding, or not?
Jan. 6, 2019 at 9:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Eli
Nonsense.

Bowey is scoring .90 pts/60. Parayko has .74. just needs to build his endurance to play bigger minutes, and he'll be better. Is St. Louis ready to start rebuilding, or not?


Are we discussing points for defenseman? Have you seeen how bad Bowey’s defense metrics are?
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Jan. 6, 2019 at 9:32 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Florida obviously says no. Kuznetsov is a very good player, but Barkov is maybe the best 2 way center in the league on a better contract.

That Dallas trade is horrible.

The STL trade is also horrible. If STL is rebuilding they arent trading young players on good contracts for vets on long term high dollar contracts.


Obviously says no? Kuzy is better than Barkov. Barkov is on a better contract but kuzy is the better player hands down
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Jan. 6, 2019 at 9:34 p.m.
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Are we discussing points for defenseman? Have you seeen how bad Bowey’s defense metrics are?


Bowey isn’t a cap dump he’s a carrick like player.... he would be very good somewhere were expectations aren’t as high and he can play more than 10 sheltered minutes a game. But I don’t think his value is much higher than a 2nd. And I say a second bc he’s a rhd and still could develop into something
Jan. 6, 2019 at 9:37 p.m.
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Quoting: PenGoater99
Florida doesn't even think about that trade. Barkov is a top 5-7 C in the league on a steal of a contract.

The Dallas trade is essentially a bunch of throwaways with Orlov and Johansen, not enough at all. Nill probably blocks the Caps management from making any future proposals.

The Blues trade is stupid too. Oshie's contract will be a burden in 2-3 years and Bowey isn't anything special. If St Louis was to trade Parayko, they'd certainly get better offers than that.


I don’t think the blue want Oshie. They ran him out of town like kessel

Kuzy is better than Barkov. I mean he is a ppg player who carried Washington to a cup score 30+.

And that Dallas trade isn’t good unless they are desperate to dump Benn and even if that’s the case they could get more for him
Jan. 6, 2019 at 9:46 p.m.
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Obviously says no? Kuzy is better than Barkov. Barkov is on a better contract but kuzy is the better player hands down


Kuznetsov is not better than barkov.

that isn't an insult, barkov is the best 2 way center in the league
Jan. 6, 2019 at 9:51 p.m.
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Are we discussing points for defenseman? Have you seeen how bad Bowey’s defense metrics are?


Thanks for asking: Bowey's on-ice shooting percentage plus save percentage this year is second among all NHL defensemen drafted in 2013 (min 20 games played), behind Zadorov, but ahead of Hagg, Ristolainen, Morrissey, Pesce, Jones, Nurse, Theodore, etc. http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?report=skaterpercentages&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20182019&seasonTo=20182019&gameType=2&draftYear=2013&position=D&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,20&sort=shootingPlusSavePctg

His USAT%close is 9th out of 14, but still ahead of Hagg, Pulock, Ristolainen.Harper, and Nurse.

He plays tougher zone starts than Buther, Theodore, Jones, Weegar, Morrissey, and Pesce.

And yes, we are talking about offense when comparing defensemen who are respected in part for their offensive potential. Bowey's assists/60 are 8th in the group, ahead of Hagg, Pesce, Mueller, Weegar, Zadorov, and Harpur.

Would I trade Bowey's contract for Parayko's to win right away? Sure. Parayko's an established top four defenseman in the NHL, capable of playing big minutes, and chipping in on both special teams. But the cap doesn't work, so I was forced to throw in Oshie, who plays PP1 on the Caps, chips in on penalty kill, and is one of just two guys on the team that's ever scored thirty goals in a season. So that's a deal I'd only make if it was to make room for Jamie Benn. Your suggestion that STL passes is just ridiculous trolling. More likely that Oshie doesn't waive his NTC with the Caps in contention and the Blues in last place, even though he had a great time playing in STL. But because I can't see the Caps trading Oshie at all, and I like the guy from what I know of him, even my facetious Oshie trade had to go to a place where I thought he'd be happy, and people would be excited to see him.
Jan. 6, 2019 at 9:56 p.m.
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I don’t think the blue want Oshie. They ran him out of town like kessel

Kuzy is better than Barkov. I mean he is a ppg player who carried Washington to a cup score 30+.

And that Dallas trade isn’t good unless they are desperate to dump Benn and even if that’s the case they could get more for him


Please, cease. Kuznetsov is not better than Barkov. Take off the homer lens please
Jan. 6, 2019 at 9:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
I don’t think the blue want Oshie. They ran him out of town like kessel

Kuzy is better than Barkov. I mean he is a ppg player who carried Washington to a cup score 30+.

And that Dallas trade isn’t good unless they are desperate to dump Benn and even if that’s the case they could get more for him


Kuznetsov is not better than Barkov. Barkov is just a capable offensively and it’s not even close defensively. Barkov is a top 5 C, Kuznetsov is not.
Jan. 6, 2019 at 9:58 p.m.
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Obviously says no? Kuzy is better than Barkov. Barkov is on a better contract but kuzy is the better player hands down


No. Kuznetsov is not as good as Barkov, Barkov is a top 7 C in the league
Jan. 6, 2019 at 10:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
I don’t think the blue want Oshie. They ran him out of town like kessel

Kuzy is better than Barkov. I mean he is a ppg player who carried Washington to a cup score 30+.

And that Dallas trade isn’t good unless they are desperate to dump Benn and even if that’s the case they could get more for him


Barkov is a lot better than Kuzy. Stop disrespecting Barkov
Jan. 6, 2019 at 10:08 p.m.
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I don’t think the blue want Oshie. They ran him out of town like kessel

Kuzy is better than Barkov. I mean he is a ppg player who carried Washington to a cup score 30+.

And that Dallas trade isn’t good unless they are desperate to dump Benn and even if that’s the case they could get more for him


(1) I still see plenty of Oshie jerseys out here in Flyover, and they aren't red.

(2) Yep. Kuznetsov is one of ten centers to score 30 points in a single postseason in recorded NHL history. In this millennium, he's one of five players to manage 30. Two play for Pittsburgh, of course, and aren't going anywhere. Briere's retired, and Couture's still pretty good, but probably not quite as good as Kuznetsov, anymore. So Kuznetsov is the most clutch player that could conceivably ever be traded, in the NHL right now. Move over, Justin Williams. smile

I think Barkov plays a more well-rounded game, but is a less creative playmaker. I agree the cap hit is better on his contract, but the term of four years isn't nearly as good as the seven years on Kuznetsov. In year five, Barkov starts at least an 80M extension, at age 27, but not necessarily still in Washington. So this is a very win-now move, to keep the center core strong but also generate cap space to be able to add a Star..... (3) were any available. Dallas fans are back to posting AGMs where the Stars are buyers, again, so clearly they aren't that impressed with any of our "horsesh!t" offers. And that's fine. I don't think the Washington Capitals are exactly hurting for left wings.
Jan. 6, 2019 at 10:09 p.m.
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Please, cease. Kuznetsov is not better than Barkov. Take off the homer lens please


Quoting: kopiino
Kuznetsov is not better than Barkov. Barkov is just a capable offensively and it’s not even close defensively. Barkov is a top 5 C, Kuznetsov is not.


Quoting: Jbarah12
Barkov is a lot better than Kuzy. Stop disrespecting Barkov


http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?reportType=season&seasonFrom=19992000&seasonTo=20182019&gameType=3&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,20&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=points,goals,assists


Barkov also isn't quite as solid this year as he was last year, defensively, but maybe he'll pick it up again. He can be pretty good, and that's absolutely the reason I am okay with talking about trading Kuznetsov for him.

Kuznetsov makes the top 100 centers this year in USAT%close and in SPSv%. Barkov doesn't. But he is younger and cheaper, and I'm hoping he'll bounce back.
Jan. 6, 2019 at 10:11 p.m.
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Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Kuznetsov is not better than barkov.

that isn't an insult, barkov is the best 2 way center in the league


Coots is a better 2 way center than Matthews but doesn’t mean he is better. And I understand what you’re saying but kuzy puts up matthews numbers
Jan. 6, 2019 at 10:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Jbarah12
Barkov is a lot better than Kuzy. Stop disrespecting Barkov


Haha a lot better? Barkov have 80 point season or 30 points in the plyoffs? He have a cup.? He’s better defensively but kuzy is much better offensively

Edit. Haha he currently is a -9. Plus minus isn’t a great stat but come on haha

Way better gtfoh haha
 
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