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JVR to Montreal

Created by: Dmh1055
Team: 2018-19 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 9, 2019
Published: Jan. 9, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. Alzner, Karl
  2. Shaw, Andrew
  3. 2019 3rd round pick (MTL)
2.
PHI
  1. 2019 4th round pick (TBL)
TBL
  1. Raffl, Michael ($1,175,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$67,502,916$0$4,827,500$11,997,084
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,137,500$4,137,500
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW
UFA - 2
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$4,333,333$4,333,333
C
UFA - 4
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
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$962,500$962,500
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
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$3,975,000$3,975,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,350,000$2,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,700,000$4,700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$650,000$650,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1
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$730,833$730,833 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
G
RFA - 3
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
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$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$650,000$650,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,345,000$2,345,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$650,000$650,000
C
UFA - 1
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$780,833$780,833 (Performance Bonus$107,500$108K)
C
UFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$761,250$761,250
G
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LD, LW
UFA - 3

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Jan. 9, 2019 at 10:21 p.m.
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No way would I take Alzner.
Jan. 9, 2019 at 11:24 p.m.
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Boris Bagel
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Flyers can keep JVR and his $7M per, Alzner a better buyout option for Habs
& Shaw is playing better this year than JVR
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Jan. 9, 2019 at 11:58 p.m.
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Jesus Christ Is King
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Quoting: ExpiredmilkYT
No way would I take Alzner.


its funny i was just thinking that about PHI Alzner in JVR

we'd have to be Paid to take on that knuckle head Lucic like Contract .
Jan. 10, 2019 at 12:08 a.m.
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Quoting: Billy316
its funny i was just thinking that about PHI Alzner in JVR

we'd have to be Paid to take on that knuckle head Lucic like Contract .


Not really a Lucic contract. He's been fine for us. Has no NMC/NTC, 4 years after this one. I think it'll likely be in that realm of being bad in the final 2 contract years. Not a big fan of the Shaw or Alzner contract.
Jan. 10, 2019 at 12:11 a.m.
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Jesus Christ Is King
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Not really a Lucic contract. He's been fine for us. Has no NMC/NTC, 4 years after this one. I think it'll likely be in that realm of being bad in the final 2 contract years. Not a big fan of the Shaw or Alzner contract.


i love Shaw , so does his teammates .
as Domi said ''anyone who doesnt like Shaw doesnt know hockey or understand what he brings ''

Domi's been pretty annoyed with people ****ting on him speaking out at the MTL Media during Shaw 17 point in 16 game run with Drouin-Domi before getting injured .

Alzner's a bad contract but only people who never scored a goal in a hockey game or put on a set of goalie pads and lead your team to a win can ignore what Shaw brings .(aka fantasy league millennials who see Cap as more important then Value or what someone brings to the table )
Jan. 10, 2019 at 12:13 a.m.
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i love Shaw , so does his teammates .
as Domi said ''anyone who doesnt like Shaw doesnt know hockey or understand what he brings ''

Domi's been pretty annoyed with people ****ting on him speaking out at the MTL Media during Shaw 17 point in 16 game run with Drouin-Domi before getting injured .

Alzner's a bad contract but only people who never scored a goal in a hockey game or put on a set of goalie pads and lead your team to a win can ignore what Shaw brings .(aka fantasy league millennials who see Cap as more important then Value or what someone brings to the table )


Meh. Flyers have a bunch of so called "good locker room guys" and we're doing poorly. I admit it can't be ignored, but I also don't think it should raise his value by very much. Just my take (yes, I've played hockey).
Jan. 10, 2019 at 12:28 a.m.
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Jesus Christ Is King
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Meh. Flyers have a bunch of so called "good locker room guys" and we're doing poorly. I admit it can't be ignored, but I also don't think it should raise his value by very much. Just my take (yes, I've played hockey).


i dont think you did to be honest as you still dont comprehend the role Shaw plays


when he's asked by the coach to play 4th line Grinder he's usually offensive leader in Hits .

when asked to play third line to mentor Chuck and Lehkonen his first year he picked up his Possession game and both youth helped put us on their backs and secure our last playoff run (Galchenyuk lead the league in OT GWG and Lehkonen in the final playoff push mounted 11 pts and 6 goals in 12 games 3 GWG's included in his rookie year .

when asked to play with Drouin-Domi because they were struggling since Byron's Injury he went and Drouin both went on 5 game point streaks and Shaw scored 17 points in 16 games on top line .

when asked to play with Pacioretty last year on 2nd/3rd line during his slump Shaw elevated Danault and Pacioretty's game by being there to feed them pucks from the corner and drive the net .


you ignore what he is to try to pigeon hole him into terms you are comfortable with is how i know you've never actually played hockey as people who have dont talk in Fantasy League terms about what a player brings as they see the game as Chess while the rest just see Checkers
Jan. 10, 2019 at 12:44 a.m.
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i dont think you did to be honest as you still dont comprehend the role Shaw plays


when he's asked by the coach to play 4th line Grinder he's usually offensive leader in Hits .

when asked to play third line to mentor Chuck and Lehkonen his first year he picked up his Possession game and both youth helped put us on their backs and secure our last playoff run (Galchenyuk lead the league in OT GWG and Lehkonen in the final playoff push mounted 11 pts and 6 goals in 12 games 3 GWG's included in his rookie year .

when asked to play with Drouin-Domi because they were struggling since Byron's Injury he went and Drouin both went on 5 game point streaks and Shaw scored 17 points in 16 games on top line .

when asked to play with Pacioretty last year on 2nd/3rd line during his slump Shaw elevated Danault and Pacioretty's game by being there to feed them pucks from the corner and drive the net .


you ignore what he is to try to pigeon hole him into terms you are comfortable with is how i know you've never actually played hockey as people who have dont talk in Fantasy League terms about what a player brings as they see the game as Chess while the rest just see Checkers


Jesus Christ. You must have a thick skull. "You don't agree with what I'm saying so you must have never played hockey". I'm not super into advanced stats, nor do I play fantasy hockey. Shaw isn't a bad player (can play anywhere in a lineup), but intangibles by itsself doesn't win games. Also, I've played hockey for almost 10 years if you're still wondering.
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Jan. 10, 2019 at 1:25 a.m.
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Jesus Christ. You must have a thick skull. "You don't agree with what I'm saying so you must have never played hockey". I'm not super into advanced stats, nor do I play fantasy hockey. Shaw isn't a bad player (can play anywhere in a lineup), but intangibles by itsself doesn't win games. Also, I've played hockey for almost 10 years if you're still wondering.


Sorry for the first sentence. Didn't mean to be that rude. Just frustrated when people say I've never played.
Jan. 10, 2019 at 6:55 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Sorry for the first sentence. Didn't mean to be that rude. Just frustrated when people say I've never played.


Thicker skull than Shaw ?
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