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Created by: KingsLover
Team: 2018-19 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 10, 2019
Published: Jan. 10, 2019
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Necas deserves to be in the NHL, he's scoring extremly well in the AHL, and looked really good at the beginning of the season with Carolina. I believe he and Tarasenko would fit real well together.
Trades
1.
CAR
  1. Bouwmeester, Jay
  2. Tarasenko, Vladimir
Additional Details:
The Canes get a sniper who's having a down year, but he's been one of the most talented scorer over the last 4 seasons. Bouwmeester is a solid bottom pairing d-man still and could use time out of St.Louis.
STL
  1. Bean, Jake
  2. Foegele, Warren
  3. Rask, Victor
  4. Saarela, Aleksi
  5. Wallmark, Lucas
  6. 2019 2nd round pick (CAR)
  7. 2019 5th round pick (CAR)
  8. 2020 3rd round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
The Blues get a great young d-man in Bean, a young centre in Hallmark has 2nd line centre potential, Foegele has potential as a solid top 9 forward, and Saarela looks like he could be a top 6 guy. Rask is there for cap reasons and because he looks like he's getting squeezed out of Carolina.
2.
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  1. Dzingel, Ryan
  2. 2019 4th round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
Dzingel is having a great year, but I don't know if he can maintain this scoring but he does provide scoring from the wing that the Canes need.
OTT
  1. McGinn, Brock
  2. 2019 1st round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
McGinn still looks like he can be a serviceable bottom 6 winger, and is younger than Dzingel.
3.
CAR
  1. Bracco, Jeremy
  2. Lindholm, Pär
  3. Zaitsev, Nikita
  4. 2019 2nd round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
The Canes take back Zaitsev who yes is overpaid, but they get back an excellent prospect in Bracco and a 2nd. Lindholm is a solid 4th line centre and is an improvement over guys like Bishop and McKegg.
TOR
  1. Faulk, Justin
  2. Pu, Cliff
  3. 2019 3rd round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
The leafs get a solid top 4 d-man in Faulk who I believe needs out of Carolina.
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G
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UFA - 1
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RD
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Jan. 10, 2019 at 5:25 a.m.
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There's 0 need for Bouwmeester, not only is he not gonna play in Carolina look at the contract, take him out and a top 6 prospect, a top pairing D prospect, a top 9 prospect a solidified NHL C, A top 6 C prospect a second a 3rd and a 5th for a guy who's been lacklustre over the past few seasons? Canes need scoring, but not enough to overpay like this
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Jan. 10, 2019 at 6:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
There's 0 need for Bouwmeester, not only is he not gonna play in Carolina look at the contract, take him out and a top 6 prospect, a top pairing D prospect, a top 9 prospect a solidified NHL C, A top 6 C prospect a second a 3rd and a 5th for a guy who's been lacklustre over the past few seasons? Canes need scoring, but not enough to overpay like this


Ik man but I didn't know how many prospects to give because I've seen people post with less than that and heard Tarasenko was worth more. Which prospects do you suggest he's worth?
Jan. 10, 2019 at 7:43 a.m.
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Quoting: KingsLover
Ik man but I didn't know how many prospects to give because I've seen people post with less than that and heard Tarasenko was worth more. Which prospects do you suggest he's worth?


The Blues aren’t gonna do it without Necas and at least 1 first round pick.
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Jan. 10, 2019 at 7:47 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
There's 0 need for Bouwmeester, not only is he not gonna play in Carolina look at the contract, take him out and a top 6 prospect, a top pairing D prospect, a top 9 prospect a solidified NHL C, A top 6 C prospect a second a 3rd and a 5th for a guy who's been lacklustre over the past few seasons? Canes need scoring, but not enough to overpay like this


Past few seasons? He scored 34 goals last year and still had 60 plus points. While this year has not been good, he also just had off-season shoulder surgery, but his overall game is better. Two of Necas, Pesce, and 2019 first round pick must be included.
Jan. 10, 2019 at 7:51 a.m.
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Quoting: STLBlues17
The Blues aren’t gonna do it without Necas and at least 1 first round pick.


There's no way Carolina will give up Necas, Hallmark has top 6 potential, but Necas has star potential man, that's outrageous. There should be a 1st tho I get that now.
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Jan. 10, 2019 at 7:54 a.m.
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Quoting: KingsLover
There's no way Carolina will give up Necas, Hallmark has top 6 potential, but Necas has star potential man, that's outrageous. There should be a 1st tho I get that now.


Than the Blues will keep Tarasenko. It’s not like he’s a pending UFA or like 35 years old so Armstrong’s not gonna do it unless the return is incredible
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Jan. 10, 2019 at 8:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Chopper02
Past few seasons? He scored 34 goals last year and still had 60 plus points. While this year has not been good, he also just had off-season shoulder surgery, but his overall game is better. Two of Necas, Pesce, and 2019 first round pick must be included.


60 points isn't worth it. Pesce and Necas aren't going anywhere, and you still talk like this is imminent, in reality there's very little chance. Senko isn't the player he used to be, his shot is good but thats it. Thats not worth it. Teravainen had 60+ points last year, and I wouldn't give up a package like that for him
Jan. 10, 2019 at 9:00 a.m.
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Than the Blues will keep Tarasenko. It’s not like he’s a pending UFA or like 35 years old so Armstrong’s not gonna do it unless the return is incredible


The same guy that gave up the farm for Ryan O'Reilly? I wouldn't have so much faith in him
Jan. 10, 2019 at 9:02 a.m.
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Ik man but I didn't know how many prospects to give because I've seen people post with less than that and heard Tarasenko was worth more. Which prospects do you suggest he's worth?


Bean is fine, that's a good start. Carolina have more D men then money at this point. The 1st has to be included because it's senko, but not much more, Carolina aren't going for the cup this year, there's no need to sell the farm for him imo, Wallmark and Necas.... I can see 1 going OR rask but not both, Canes would have Aho and Staal as the only C's with NHL experience.
Jan. 10, 2019 at 9:06 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
60 points isn't worth it. Pesce and Necas aren't going anywhere, and you still talk like this is imminent, in reality there's very little chance. Senko isn't the player he used to be, his shot is good but thats it. Thats not worth it. Teravainen had 60+ points last year, and I wouldn't give up a package like that for him


Have to give to get. Tarasenko will get better. We've seen downturns in player's careers just to have them rebound because they have the talent, but bad puck luck leads to lesser stats. It happened to Ovechkin at one point. He went from 100+ points, to 85, to 65 and bounced back. Tarasenko can do the same because he has the talent.
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Jan. 10, 2019 at 9:09 a.m.
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Have to give to get. Tarasenko will get better. We've seen downturns in player's careers just to have them rebound because they have the talent, but bad puck luck leads to lesser stats. It happened to Ovechkin at one point. He went from 100+ points, to 85, to 65 and bounced back. Tarasenko can do the same because he has the talent.


I would agree, put Senko's PDO is through the roof.... meaning he's getting lucky to be this bad. We know what he can be, but he's had a few stagnent seasons and he's not worth parting with Necas and anything for, especially when Necas has the straight up potential to be Senko good, as a C
Jan. 10, 2019 at 9:10 a.m.
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Quoting: Chopper02
Past few seasons? He scored 34 goals last year and still had 60 plus points. While this year has not been good, he also just had off-season shoulder surgery, but his overall game is better. Two of Necas, Pesce, and 2019 first round pick must be included.


This is probably why Tara isnt leaving. I think its all just hype and rumors at this point
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Jan. 10, 2019 at 9:20 a.m.
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The same guy that gave up the farm for Ryan O'Reilly? I wouldn't have so much faith in him


Imagine thinking that Tage Thompson and a 1st round pick is /the farm/.
Jan. 10, 2019 at 9:33 a.m.
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Imagine thinking that Tage Thompson and a 1st round pick is /the farm/.


No, I think that giving up 4 assets for a guy who seems to be a bright spot on any bad idea and 2 of those assets being futures is a consideration of *the farm*
Jan. 10, 2019 at 9:36 a.m.
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Quoting: STLBlues17
The Blues aren’t gonna do it without Necas and at least 1 first round pick.


Senko's been bad for 2 straight years, he's not been senko. He's not worth Necas and a 1st so good luck getting that from anyone, continue enjoying the tank for Kappo
Jan. 10, 2019 at 9:45 a.m.
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No, I think that giving up 4 assets for a guy who seems to be a bright spot on any bad idea and 2 of those assets being futures is a consideration of *the farm*


The way I see it, we dumped about 7.5m of cap and gave up our 4-5th best prospect, a top-10 protected 1st, and a 2nd two years down the road for 5 yrs of a top-40 center in the league. ROR is not the one ruining the team, we'd be in such a bigger mess without him.

Quoting: Caniac2000
Senko's been bad for 2 straight years, he's not been senko. He's not worth Necas and a 1st so good luck getting that from anyone, continue enjoying the tank for Kappo


Getting chirped by a Canes fan that hasn't seen the playoffs in like 10 years lol.
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Jan. 10, 2019 at 9:58 a.m.
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I would agree, put Senko's PDO is through the roof.... meaning he's getting lucky to be this bad. We know what he can be, but he's had a few stagnent seasons and he's not worth parting with Necas and anything for, especially when Necas has the straight up potential to be Senko good, as a C


Tarasenko has had one bad season, which is this one. Not sure why people are saying "few seasons". Yes, he didn't make to 35 goals last season, but he had 30 plus goals and 60+ points. Top 5 in even strength goals, only Ovechkin has more the last few seasons. Consistent 30 plus goal scorers are hard to find. People are using Jeff Skinner equivalents in terms of what to give and adding low end prospects on that. Skinner had one year, Tarasenko has 4 years. 7.5 for a 30 goal scorer isn't much in today's NHL.
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Jan. 10, 2019 at 9:59 a.m.
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This is probably why Tara isnt leaving. I think its all just hype and rumors at this point


I think it would be a mistake for the Blues to trade him. Elliotte Friedman started this trend month's ago and it won't let up.
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Jan. 10, 2019 at 12:21 p.m.
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The same guy that gave up the farm for Ryan O'Reilly? I wouldn't have so much faith in him


He gave up our 4th best right-wing prospect and a 1st round pick that should’ve been late.
Jan. 10, 2019 at 2:53 p.m.
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It seems to me that St. Louis needs a LD to replace Bouwmeester, so the only deal that would appeal to Armstrong is Slavin and a first, and Carolina needs to get multiple assets back for one (Pesce for a RW and G, for example) rather than the other way around.
Jan. 10, 2019 at 2:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
I would agree, put Senko's PDO is through the roof.... meaning he's getting lucky to be this bad. We know what he can be, but he's had a few stagnent seasons and he's not worth parting with Necas and anything for, especially when Necas has the straight up potential to be Senko good, as a C


Now wait just a minute. Did you just claim Tarasenko is getting lucky? He’s shooting at the lowest percentage of his career and his most common line mates at even-strength (Schenn and Schwartz) are shooting even farther below average. I mean, Schwartz is shooting a full 10 percent below his career average. There’s literally not 1 player in the NHL who’s been less luckier than Tarasenko this season.
Jan. 11, 2019 at 3:38 a.m.
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Quoting: STLBlues17
Now wait just a minute. Did you just claim Tarasenko is getting lucky? He’s shooting at the lowest percentage of his career and his most common line mates at even-strength (Schenn and Schwartz) are shooting even farther below average. I mean, Schwartz is shooting a full 10 percent below his career average. There’s literally not 1 player in the NHL who’s been less luckier than Tarasenko this season.


Shooting percentage is luck to a certain degree but after a certain point it’s a skill issue, he’s getting all sorts of bounces to be as bad as he is. I get you don’t wanna hear this but in that line, his line mates aren’t the issue
Jan. 11, 2019 at 3:38 a.m.
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Quoting: STLBlues17
He gave up our 4th best right-wing prospect and a 1st round pick that should’ve been late.


He gave up a Tage Thompson and an unprotected 2020 1st because it’s gonna be top 10 this year
Jan. 11, 2019 at 3:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Chopper02
Tarasenko has had one bad season, which is this one. Not sure why people are saying "few seasons". Yes, he didn't make to 35 goals last season, but he had 30 plus goals and 60+ points. Top 5 in even strength goals, only Ovechkin has more the last few seasons. Consistent 30 plus goal scorers are hard to find. People are using Jeff Skinner equivalents in terms of what to give and adding low end prospects on that. Skinner had one year, Tarasenko has 4 years. 7.5 for a 30 goal scorer isn't much in today's NHL.


Quoting: Chopper02
Tarasenko has had one bad season, which is this one. Not sure why people are saying "few seasons". Yes, he didn't make to 35 goals last season, but he had 30 plus goals and 60+ points. Top 5 in even strength goals, only Ovechkin has more the last few seasons. Consistent 30 plus goal scorers are hard to find. People are using Jeff Skinner equivalents in terms of what to give and adding low end prospects on that. Skinner had one year, Tarasenko has 4 years. 7.5 for a 30 goal scorer isn't much in today's NHL.


For the old Senko fine but senkos quickly losing his ability to get better, he’s ageing and he’s regressing. He isn’t on tract to get near last year, and it’s clear he’s not going in the right direction.
Jan. 11, 2019 at 3:42 a.m.
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The way I see it, we dumped about 7.5m of cap and gave up our 4-5th best prospect, a top-10 protected 1st, and a 2nd two years down the road for 5 yrs of a top-40 center in the league. ROR is not the one ruining the team, we'd be in such a bigger mess without him.



Getting chirped by a Canes fan that hasn't seen the playoffs in like 10 years lol.


Oh how original. Shut up until you have a cup please? Thanks

You gave up an unprotected 2020 1st. If you don’t sort this out quick, Buffalo could add a 1OA pic to their roster and that’s the last thing they need
 
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