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Islanders Trade

Created by: Karr31
Initial Creation Date: Jan 10, 2019
Published: Jan 10, 2019 at 3:49 pm
Team: 2018-19 Dallas Stars
Team Explanation
Wanted to see what it'd look like, gauge responses
Trades
DAL
  1. Nelson, Brock
NYI
  1. Nichushkin, Valeri
  2. Mascherin, Adam
  3. 2019 4th round pick (MIN)
Additional Details:
Conditions to draft pick around Nelson re-signing, but Dallas ends up doing so quickly after to at least a 4yr term
Buyouts
  • Antti Niemi: $1,500,000
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2018
2019
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
2020
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
2021
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$75,210,832$0$3,157,500$4,289,168
Left WingCenterRight Wing
DAL
Benn, Jamie
$9,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
DAL
Seguin, Tyler
$5,750,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
DAL
Radulov, Alexander
$6,250,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 4
DAL
Shore, Devin
$2,300,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 2
NYI
Nelson, Brock
$4,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
DAL
Spezza, Jason
$7,500,000
C, RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
DAL
Janmark, Mattias
$2,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
DAL
Faksa, Radek
$2,200,000
C
RFA - 2
DAL
Pitlick, Tyler
$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
DAL
Comeau, Blake
$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
DAL
Dickinson, Jason
$875,000
C
RFA - 1
DAL
Condra, Erik
$700,000
RW
UFA - 1
DAL
Hintz, Roope
$811,667
C, LW
RFA - 2
DAL
Ritchie, Brett
$1,750,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
DAL
Lindell, Esa
$2,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
DAL
Klingberg, John
$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
DAL
Bishop, Ben
$4,916,666
G
NMC
UFA - 5
DAL
Heiskanen, Miro
$894,166
LD
RFA - 3
DAL
Polák, Roman
$1,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
DAL
Khudobin, Anton
$2,500,000
G
UFA - 2
DAL
Fedun, Taylor
$650,000
RD
UFA - 1
DAL
Honka, Julius
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
DAL
Carrick, Connor
$1,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
DAL
Methot, Marc
$4,900,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
DAL
Hanzal, Martin
$4,750,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
DAL
Johns, Stephen
$2,350,000
RD
UFA - 3

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Jan 10, 2019 at 3:51
#1
McFaksaGOAT
Joined: Sep 2018
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I’d do it but I don’t think the Isles would do it. Maybe if that pick was at least a 2nd rounder
Jan 10, 2019 at 3:59
#2
Joined: Mar 2018
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If Nelson for sure signs the extension, I'd do it if I were Dallas. Isles would at least consider it pretty hard, might depend on how close they stay in the playoff hunt though or if Lamoriello wants to stick to a rebuild plan not matter what. Value's pretty good though
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Jan 10, 2019 at 4:14
#3
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 171
Likes: 12
That is not getting you Nelson. Isles will be resigning him, Trotz loves his game. It would cost either Dellandrea or Robertson.
Jan 10, 2019 at 4:34
#4
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 232
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Quoting: IslesTime
That is not getting you Nelson. Isles will be resigning him, Trotz loves his game. It would cost either Dellandrea or Robertson.


I can't see Dallas parting with either of them for Nelson unless he was guaranteed to re-sign. Even then I'm not sure Dallas would do that. I do think the pick should be higher than a 4th though
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Jan 10, 2019 at 4:48
#5
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 4,362
Likes: 1,216
Quoting: IslesTime
That is not getting you Nelson. Isles will be resigning him, Trotz loves his game. It would cost either Dellandrea or Robertson.


You've overvalued Nelson a great deal. This deal could easily up the 4th to a 2nd or a late 1st and it'd be pretty close to value. But you asking for top prospects is ridiculous. Nelson isn't a top player that gets top value. He's a 2nd liner at best, probably a 3rd liner on a very good team. Those types of players don't get top prospects in return, especially when he's a UFA in a few months.
Jan 10, 2019 at 4:51
#6
Thread Starter
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 143
Likes: 14
Quoting: NuttySquirrel
I can't see Dallas parting with either of them for Nelson unless he was guaranteed to re-sign. Even then I'm not sure Dallas would do that. I do think the pick should be higher than a 4th though


I'm sure draft slot could be negotiated, but I agree that it's not likely either of those prospects are made available. I thought Mascherin would be considered given he's closer to being ready, overager in the draft, and is having success in AHL this season as a rookie. Other 2 are further away from big club, but are bigger plans for the future.

My hope is Isles fall out of playoff contention this year, making a guy like Nelson available, as from a Dallas perspective I see him as our best fit of what could be available. Have to admit though the Isles have been impressive this season given the circumstances. Dallas needs a 2nd line C now and the next few seasons, think Nelson would look good in victory green...
Jan 11, 2019 at 12:30
#7
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 171
Likes: 12
I based my comments on couple factors:
1. It was assumed in the post that extension is included
2. Nelson's importance to Isles and how he is viewed by the organization
3. His performance this year

He is 1 / 2C on this team, on pace for 60 pts and has stepped up his game considerably with Trotz's guidance and trust. While I agree, he may be a 2 / 3C on other teams deep at center but with these in mind, I think the Isles need to blown out to consider trading him. Just my opinion...
 
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