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3 way wBuffalo and Tampa

Created by: Shibbal18
Team: 2018-19 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 13, 2019
Published: Jan. 13, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Sabres get:
Zack Smith
Bobby Ryan (retained salary)
JT Miller
Cal Foote
2019 or 2020 1st round pick (TBL)

Ottawa gets:
Kyle Okposo
Remi Elie
Anthony Cirelli
Carter Verhaeghe
Ryan Callahan
2019 1st round pick (SJS)

Tampa Bay gets:
Matt Duchene
Brendan Guile
Jason Pominville
Danny O'Regan
About $12 million+ in added cap space after the season without breaking up their top 2 lines
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Elie, Remi
  2. Okposo, Kyle
  3. 2019 1st round pick (SJS)
BUF
  1. Ryan, Bobby ($2,250,000 retained)
  2. Smith, Zack
2.
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
2019
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2020
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Logo of the SJS
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$58,739,166$0$4,047,500$20,760,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
C
UFA - 2
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LW
UFA - 3
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$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,937,500$2,937,500
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$650,000$650,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$710,000$710,000 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
LD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,300,000$4,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$900,000$900,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$755,000$755,000 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$835,000$835,000 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$735,000$735,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,875,000$4,875,000
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$650,000$650,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$360,000$360K)
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$650,000$650,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$650,000$650,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,650,000$4,650,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,750,000$4,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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Jan. 13, 2019 at 10:01 p.m.
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Ottawa can get a better deal for Duchene than Cirelli, verhaege and 1st WITHOUT without adding bad contracts like Okposo or Callahan. Makes way more sense to just keep Bobby. Elie is a complete nonfactor. Total plug.

This trade is insanely tilted in Buffalo's favor, and Tampa and Ottawa don't even think about accepting.
Jan. 13, 2019 at 10:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Ottawa can get a better deal for Duchene than Cirelli, verhaege and 1st WITHOUT without adding bad contracts like Okposo or Callahan. Makes way more sense to just keep Bobby. Elie is a complete nonfactor. Total plug.

This trade is insanely tilted in Buffalo's favor, and Tampa and Ottawa don't even think about accepting.


I don't think it's extremely tilted in Buffalos favor at all. If Ryan can perform in OTT, Okposo will be able to, Callahans contract comes off before Ryan, Smith is a cap dump. Cirelli is definitely a top 6 Center for Ottawa, they get a first they don't have, Verhaeghe could easily win a spot in Ottawa's middle 6, and they'll be taking on bad cap anyway in a Duchene trade, for multiple reasons (they add all that salary yet they are still under the cap floor).
Jan. 13, 2019 at 10:56 p.m.
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I don't think it's extremely tilted in Buffalos favor at all. If Ryan can perform in OTT, Okposo will be able to, Callahans contract comes off before Ryan, Smith is a cap dump. Cirelli is definitely a top 6 Center for Ottawa, they get a first they don't have, Verhaeghe could easily win a spot in Ottawa's middle 6, and they'll be taking on bad cap anyway in a Duchene trade, for multiple reasons (they add all that salary yet they are still under the cap floor).


First of all, Ryan and Okposo play a completely different role, so there's no guarantee that Okposo would produce. The devil you know is better than the devil you don't. With Bobby we at least know what we have.

Smith is over paid, but it's not a very big overpayment. He's like 1 mil over tops. He's also a very useful player, and we have no reason to want to move him unless we get an asset back, not just more bad money. If we sell hard this deadline, we'll still need to hit the floor, and I'd rather do that with Bobby and Smith than Okposo and Callahan. That said, if he'd waive to come to Ottawa, it would be in our best interest to take on that contract in exchange for assets, but that would probably be just picks.

As for Cirelli and Verhaege, they're both useful players, just not in Ottawa. They simply do not address the two biggest needs in Ottawa. We have no right shooting Dmen or natural right wingers in coming up the pipe.


Also could you break down where all the value coming back to Buffalo comes from? I truly can't see what Buffalo gives up that is worth that much. Swapping 1sts is a wash, Foote is in a completely different class than Guhle, Elie and O'reagan are AHL guys, and even most Buffalo fans don't put that high a price on Scandella.
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