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Lucic Trade Options

Created by: DONTGIVEAPUCK13
Team: 2018-19 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 24, 2019
Published: Jan. 24, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Lucic, Milan
5$6,000,000
Lucic, Milan
5$6,000,000
Lucic, Milan
5$6,000,000
Lucic, Milan
5$6,000,000
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Boychuk, Johnny
  2. Ladd, Andrew
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Oilers would buy out Ladd
NYI
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Sekera, Andrej
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Islanders deal with less term on D with Sekera vs Boychuk and he is younger. Lucic is younger and can actually play vs Ladd
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3.
CHI
  1. Lucic, Milan
4.
BOS
  1. Lucic, Milan
5.
CGY
  1. Lucic, Milan
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27$79,500,000$105,899,498$0$2,582,500-$26,399,498
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 8
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$650,000$650,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 3
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 7
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$675,000$675,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,950,000$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RW
UFA - 1
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
C
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
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UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 3
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$6,875,000$6,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,950,000$1,950,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$870,000$870,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
UFA - 2

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Jan. 24, 2019 at 11:46 a.m.
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Lucic will never be traded, no one wants a 6m player who cannot play in the NHL, Ryan is better than him ..... OTT would NEVER do this.
Jan. 24, 2019 at 11:50 a.m.
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Why would Boston do that deal?

Lucic has 2 more years of term at the same cap hit and he's worse than Backes. On top of that, Lucic is owed $19 million in actual money while Backes is owed $8 million. So again why is Boston going to add 2 more years of a $6 million cap hit + add another $11 million in actual money they need to pay out?
Jan. 24, 2019 at 11:52 a.m.
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Lucic trade options. There are none. He’s yours.

Unless you package him with a player like Drai, Klef, Nurse, or a pair of 1sts while retaining salary and taking 50 cents on the dollar in return you have almost no chance of moving him.

PS. Backes is more productive with a shorter contract and only 5m in actual salary remaining after July 1. And they traded Looch away for a reason. Don’t want him back. Why would they even consider this. You’d have to retain half and add some high end picks just to get them to listen. Then there’s Backes NMC/NTC which he’s not waiving for EDM anyway.
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Jan. 24, 2019 at 11:52 a.m.
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Just buy him out
Jan. 24, 2019 at 11:53 a.m.
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The answer is none. A cap hit of $6 mil for a fringe NHLer with a NMC.
Jan. 24, 2019 at 11:57 a.m.
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Why would Boston do that deal?

Lucic has 2 more years of term at the same cap hit and he's worse than Backes. On top of that, Lucic is owed $19 million in actual money while Backes is owed $8 million. So again why is Boston going to add 2 more years of a $6 million cap hit + add another $11 million in actual money they need to pay out?


Fair enough wasn't aware of Backes actual cost
Jan. 24, 2019 at 11:58 a.m.
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Just buy him out


He isnt worth buying out
Jan. 24, 2019 at 12:00 p.m.
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He isnt worth buying out


Gotta wait for that freebee when the next CBA is complete.
Jan. 24, 2019 at 12:03 p.m.
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Lucic will never be traded, no one wants a 6m player who cannot play in the NHL, Ryan is better than him ..... OTT would NEVER do this.


I think Ottawa would. Lucic is worth $16 is actual dollars compared to Ryan $20.5 when you remove next year's signing bonus. That's why I took on Smith as well (strictly for the contract). I agree Ryan is better but Ottawa is a budget team. Lucic and the rights of Reider are lots of savings for Ottawa.

$27 in three or $16 over 4
Jan. 24, 2019 at 12:05 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Gotta wait for that freebee when the next CBA is complete.


Idk I feel like somethings could be done. What about the Seabrook or Islanders trades?
Jan. 24, 2019 at 12:07 p.m.
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Yeah none of these Lucic trades are happening, You're stuck with him like it or not.
Jan. 24, 2019 at 12:10 p.m.
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Idk I feel like somethings could be done. What about the Seabrook or Islanders trades?


He has that NMC. I doubt he would waive it for those places.
Jan. 24, 2019 at 12:11 p.m.
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Idk I feel like somethings could be done. What about the Seabrook or Islanders trades?


Seabrook can still play top 4. He's not great, but he'd still end up being one of your top 3 dmen. Bad contract, but nowhere close to as bad as Lucic.

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I think Ottawa would. Lucic is worth $16 is actual dollars compared to Ryan $20.5 when you remove next year's signing bonus. That's why I took on Smith as well (strictly for the contract). I agree Ryan is better but Ottawa is a budget team. Lucic and the rights of Reider are lots of savings for Ottawa.

$27 in three or $16 over 4


Ottawa wasn't willing to give a discount in a Karlsson trade to get rid of Ryan's contract, so I don't see why they would take a worse contract back to get rid of him now. Sure, the dollar values aren't the same, but Ryan can at least play at the NHL level and is a serviceable mid-6 player when healthy.

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Just buy him out


Forget where I saw it, but his contract is essentially buy-out-proof based on the way that his salary is structured. The non-existent cap saving make it useless to do.
Jan. 24, 2019 at 12:26 p.m.
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Lucic is not being traded without at least 40% money being retained on him. The trades need to be more creative, using a 3rd team as a pass through. You could launder his cap hit down to 1.5m per year, but then you are paying someone significant assets to eat 3m of cap hit each year. Unless you get lucky and a cap floor team needs an artificial cap boost. Its sad that hes declined so much (albeit predictably)
Jan. 24, 2019 at 1:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
Seabrook can still play top 4. He's not great, but he'd still end up being one of your top 3 dmen. Bad contract, but nowhere close to as bad as Lucic.



Ottawa wasn't willing to give a discount in a Karlsson trade to get rid of Ryan's contract, so I don't see why they would take a worse contract back to get rid of him now. Sure, the dollar values aren't the same, but Ryan can at least play at the NHL level and is a serviceable mid-6 player when healthy.



Forget where I saw it, but his contract is essentially buy-out-proof based on the way that his salary is structured. The non-existent cap saving make it useless to do.


You're exactly right, Lucic's contract is essentially buyout proof and for the little bit of cap savings the Oilers would get its just not worth buying him out period. Of all the bad contracts around the league I'd way rather have lost anyone of those guys then Lucic.
Kesler, Alzner, Ryan, Seabrook, etc. Any one of those guys and all the other bad deals out there are at least still somewhat useful in the right role even if they're overpaid to do it, Lucic just doesn't bring much of anything anymore.
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Jan. 24, 2019 at 1:38 p.m.
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Yup. And th
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You're exactly right, Lucic's contract is essentially buyout proof and for the little bit of cap savings the Oilers would get its just not worth buying him out period. Of all the bad contracts around the league I'd way rather have lost anyone of those guys then Lucic.
Kesler, Alzner, Ryan, Seabrook, etc. Any one of those guys and all the other bad deals out there are at least still somewhat useful in the right role even if they're overpaid to do it, Lucic just doesn't bring much of anything anymore.


Yup. The Habs/Sens can very much afford to sit on the Alzner/Ryan deals, and while it's not ideal for the next couple of years, the Ducks/Hawks can do so as well. May save those two from themselves in that they won't be overspending on a future free agent over the next couple of years (ie. Ferland).
Jan. 24, 2019 at 1:42 p.m.
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Quoting: BleedBlue_LGR
Lucic is not being traded without at least 40% money being retained on him. The trades need to be more creative, using a 3rd team as a pass through. You could launder his cap hit down to 1.5m per year, but then you are paying someone significant assets to eat 3m of cap hit each year. Unless you get lucky and a cap floor team needs an artificial cap boost. Its sad that hes declined so much (albeit predictably)


The decline unfortunately has happened sooner and was steeper than anyone expected
Jan. 24, 2019 at 1:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
Yup. And th

Yup. The Habs/Sens can very much afford to sit on the Alzner/Ryan deals, and while it's not ideal for the next couple of years, the Ducks/Hawks can do so as well. May save those two from themselves in that they won't be overspending on a future free agent over the next couple of years (ie. Ferland).


I figured Chicago saved almost a million now and then the term is less assuming Seabrook plays out his contract.
Jan. 24, 2019 at 1:46 p.m.
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He has that NMC. I doubt he would waive it for those places.


Islanders he might. He would be closer to Boston where he has contacts and definitely less pressure to play. Why wouldn't he waive to get a fresh start
 
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