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(TOR/LAK) - Grundström, Durzi and 2019 1st round pick for Muzzin

Who won the trade?
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Jan 29 at 12:33
#76
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Quoting: Bf3351
You don't know anything about the Kings. Every smart kings fan with hockey sense knows that they just need a retool. Watch every Kings game for 10 years then talk to me.


How would you execute this retool?
Jan 29 at 1:06
#77
Habs4Ever
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Quoting: Bf3351
You don't know anything about the Kings. Every smart kings fan with hockey sense knows that they just need a retool. Watch every Kings game for 10 years then talk to me.


That age cannot take a retool. We already went through this. In 2-3 years this core is going to be done and are all going to have awful contracts. Now is the time to cash out before they screw themselves over. It's the right move. You just have to accept reality.
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Jan 29 at 4:32
#78
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
That age cannot take a retool. We already went through this. In 2-3 years this core is going to be done and are all going to have awful contracts. Now is the time to cash out before they screw themselves over. It's the right move. You just have to accept reality.


In 2-3 years guys like JAD, Vilardi, Clague, and Kupar will be in the NHL. Lol...
Jan 29 at 4:35
#79
Habs4Ever
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Quoting: Bf3351
In 2-3 years guys like JAD, Vilardi, Clague, and Kupar will be in the NHL. Lol...


and your current core will all be old regressed men on Anchor contracts. Just accept it man. Your team is doing the right thing
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Jan 29 at 5:27
#80
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Quoting: OpaqueZoo
Kings do need a rebuild. And with all those heavy deals, Kopitar, Doughty, Carter, Quick, Kovalchuk, Martinez, Brown, Phaneuf, it looks like it'll be awhile before it's over.


I don't think LAK will attempt a rebuild as long as they have those big names under their current contracts. They can trade Alec Martinez, and Tyler Toffoli to gain some much needed cap space, and then pursue a big time UFA like Panarin this summer. I don't see how they can waste Doughty and Kopitar in a rebuild and justify it to their fan base. It's probably in their best interest long term to rebuild but their salary structure isn't at all similar to that of the Rangers. LAK are much more top heavy, whereas NYR had much more balance.
Jan 29 at 5:28
#81
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Quoting: Brian2016
I don't think LAK will attempt a rebuild as long as they have those big names under their current contracts. They can trade Alec Martinez, and Tyler Toffoli to gain some much needed cap space, and then pursue a big time UFA like Panarin this summer. I don't see how they can waste Doughty and Kopitar in a rebuild and justify it to their fan base. It's probably in their best interest long term to rebuild but their salary structure isn't at all similar to that of the Rangers. LAK are much more top heavy, whereas NYR had much more balance.


Or a retool.
Jan 30 at 1:11
#82
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Quoting: Wings1
terrible trade


Why?
Jan 30 at 1:15
#83
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Quoting: The_Architect
Lol! Blake just guaranteed you Hughes! That's HUGE. And a 2nd 1st rnd pick. Dude TO is getting bounced in the 1st rnd...Again lol


Maybe.

But it was still a good trade for Toronto - mainly because Muzzin has a 2nd year on his deal.

If Toronto gets nothing out of it this year - we still upgraded from Gardiner to Muzzin for next year while saving $2,000,000+ vs Gardiner's extension.

There are a lot of gritty 3rd line UFA's this summer that could replace what Grundstrom may or may not become.
Jan 30 at 1:18
#84
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Edited Jan 30 at 1:28
Quoting: Bf3351
In 2-3 years guys like JAD, Vilardi, Clague, and Kupar will be in the NHL. Lol...


Exactly. Which is why they should start building around them right now.

LA's entire core is 29-36 and will be little help to the young guys when they hit their prime.

Is it possible for LA to win again now? Sure is.

Should Blake bet on it? Probably not.

Kovalchuk - 35
Brown - 34
Carter - 34
Quick - 33
Phaneuf - 33
Kopitar - 31
Martinez - 31
Muzzin - 29
Doughty - 29

Most of their contracts are have 3-6 years left .... and they'll probably lose a lot of trade value over the next 2 years.
Jan 31 at 11:58
#85
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Oh well hopefully we can get Hughes in the draft to replace Muzzin
Feb 1 at 10:46
#86
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
It's all about the variable.

Does Toronto win the cup?

If they don't this is a lot of future to trade for a 29 YO LHD with 2 years left on his contract. LA wins

If they win the cup, who cares what trades they make. TOR Wins

It's all about that variant. I don't see how this trade makes them better than TB though


probably not, but they have to go all in this year, this is going to be the strongest team they have for a few years as some pieces are going to have to move this offseason
 
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