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Fixing Blakes mess

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Team: 2018-19 Los Angeles Kings
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Rob Blake made a big mistake. Kings don't need a rebuild. They need a RETOOL

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Jan. 28, 2019 at 7:57 p.m.
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I simply disagree with your assessment of a retool vs rebuild. LAK are an old team of vets with very high cap hits. They need a rebuild more than any other team in the NHL. Name 1 other team that should start a rebuild more than LAK?

Think Hags will be traded in a week?
Jan. 28, 2019 at 8:00 p.m.
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I simply disagree with your assessment of a retool vs rebuild. LAK are an old team of vets with very high cap hits. They need a rebuild more than any other team in the NHL. Name 1 other team that should start a rebuild more than LAK?


Uhh, Ottawa, Detroit, Flyers, and Oilers. You don't rebuild a team when your 3 core players just finished top 5 in each of their position just LAST year. It's common sense dude.
Jan. 28, 2019 at 8:02 p.m.
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Uhh, Ottawa, Detroit, Flyers, and Oilers. You don't rebuild a team when your 3 core players just finished top 5 in each of their position just LAST year. It's common sense dude.


Flyers do not need a rebuild more than the Kings. Kings do need a rebuild imo.
Jan. 28, 2019 at 8:04 p.m.
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tears of joy
Jan. 28, 2019 at 8:05 p.m.
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What Kings needs is a time machine in order to flash forward 3-4 years and get those bad contracts expired.
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Jan. 28, 2019 at 8:07 p.m.
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Edited Jan. 28, 2019 at 8:18 p.m.
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Uhh, Ottawa, Detroit, Flyers, and Oilers. You don't rebuild a team when your 3 core players just finished top 5 in each of their position just LAST year. It's common sense dude.

DET is already rebuilding and their further along than LAK. EDM's has a FAR younger core than LAK. THEY need a retool and they might be able to get in with Chia fired. The Flyer's don't need to rebuild either. Just click the long term outlook at tell me how many people you need to pass over before you finally get to someone in their freakin 20's. It's crazy how old this team is.

*EDIT* I will say that I thought Kopitar deserved the Hart last year though. Somehow he brought Dustin Brown back from the dead.
Jan. 28, 2019 at 8:19 p.m.
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Flyers do not need a rebuild more than the Kings. Kings do need a rebuild imo.


What in your brain makes you think that?
Do you think the Blackhawks need a rebuild?
Jan. 28, 2019 at 8:20 p.m.
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DET is already rebuilding and their further along than LAK. EDM's has a FAR younger core than LAK. THEY need a retool and they might be able to get in with Chia fired. The Flyer's don't need to rebuild either. Just click the long term outlook at tell me how many people you need to pass over before you finally get to someone in their freakin 20's. It's crazy how old this team is.

*EDIT* I will say that I thought Kopitar deserved the Hart last year though. Somehow he brought Dustin Brown back from the dead.


Brown came back on His own... if you knew anything about the Kings or Brown. You'd know that Sutter had him on a very short leash. With him gone Brown was able to bring his creativity to the table.
Jan. 28, 2019 at 8:22 p.m.
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What Kings needs is a time machine in order to flash forward 3-4 years and get those bad contracts expired.


What contacts are those exactly besides Phaneuf? Kovalchuk is doing fine. Carter just needs better linemates. Brown is the best forward on our team. Who?
Jan. 28, 2019 at 8:24 p.m.
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Uhh, Ottawa, Detroit, Flyers, and Oilers. You don't rebuild a team when your 3 core players just finished top 5 in each of their position just LAST year. It's common sense dude.


Aren't Ottawa and Detroit currently in rebuilds?
Jan. 28, 2019 at 8:26 p.m.
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Aren't Ottawa and Detroit currently in rebuilds?


It's irrelevant. He was asking me a stupid question.
Jan. 28, 2019 at 8:27 p.m.
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Montreal is never doing that trade.
Jan. 28, 2019 at 8:28 p.m.
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What contacts are those exactly besides Phaneuf? Kovalchuk is doing fine. Carter just needs better linemates. Brown is the best forward on our team. Who?


It's very concerning if one consider's Brown being the best forward in your team. That one sentence suggests that rebuild should be done...
Jan. 28, 2019 at 8:29 p.m.
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What in your brain makes you think that?
Do you think the Blackhawks need a rebuild?


Kings lack prospects.
Jan. 28, 2019 at 9:00 p.m.
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Kings lack prospects.


Isn't Rasmus Kupari a Kings prospect? He had a great WJC
Kings need to do a 1-2 year retool, trade off any UFA'S(Hagelin) at this TDL if there's any interest in them.
Even though they don't have NMC's talk to Carter and Quick to see where they'd be open to going to in a trade and sell them both off for prospects/picks. After next season ends some smaller contracts like Lewis, Clifford and a few others expire and those contracts add up to about $6 million in cap space that could be used in a trade or to sign a UFA. They should also talk to Kovalchuk and say it didn't work out, we're heading into a retool and if you want to compete for a cup waive your NMC and we'll try to trade you to a contending team. If they can trade Kovalchuk they shouldnt expect a huge return but hopefully can grab a pick or prospect. If they do that, draft well and if they score one of the early picks this summer they might be able to turn things around in 2-3 years. Also by then a lot of contracts like Phaneuf's will be expiring or close to expiring which will free up a lot of cap space, there's no quick fix, it's likely gonna take at least a season or two of pain to turn things around in LA.
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Jan. 28, 2019 at 9:40 p.m.
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It's very concerning if one consider's Brown being the best forward in your team. That one sentence suggests that rebuild should be done...


Your response makes no sense at all.

We have plenty of good and really good players if you know anything about hockey or the NHL or the Kings, you'd know that. But those players can't do it themselves. They need help. They need better players to play with. Do you have any common sense. Blake hasn't even tried bringing in better players. He skipped right past that.
Jan. 28, 2019 at 9:44 p.m.
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Isn't Rasmus Kupari a Kings prospect? He had a great WJC
Kings need to do a 1-2 year retool, trade off any UFA'S(Hagelin) at this TDL if there's any interest in them.
Even though they don't have NMC's talk to Carter and Quick to see where they'd be open to going to in a trade and sell them both off for prospects/picks. After next season ends some smaller contracts like Lewis, Clifford and a few others expire and those contracts add up to about $6 million in cap space that could be used in a trade or to sign a UFA. They should also talk to Kovalchuk and say it didn't work out, we're heading into a retool and if you want to compete for a cup waive your NMC and we'll try to trade you to a contending team. If they can trade Kovalchuk they shouldnt expect a huge return but hopefully can grab a pick or prospect. If they do that, draft well and if they score one of the early picks this summer they might be able to turn things around in 2-3 years. Also by then a lot of contracts like Phaneuf's will be expiring or close to expiring which will free up a lot of cap space, there's no quick fix, it's likely gonna take at least a season or two of pain to turn things around in LA.


Thank you. I agree with you completely. Although I do agree with that idea, but i think guys like Carter, Muzzin, and Quick are the wrong players to trade. Toffoli could probably fetch a first rounder to a contender especially with the term he has
Jan. 28, 2019 at 9:45 p.m.
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Kings lack prospects.


We have plenty.
Jan. 28, 2019 at 9:55 p.m.
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Thank you. I agree with you completely. Although I do agree with that idea, but i think guys like Carter, Muzzin, and Quick are the wrong players to trade. Toffoli could probably fetch a first rounder to a contender especially with the term he has


I'm a big fan of both Carter and Quick but the reason to trade them is they'll get the Kings the most return and by the time LA is ready to compete again they'll both have declined so they won't be of much help and in the case of Quick LA has two young goalies in Peterson and Campbell. I know Carter and Quick were huge contributors to the Kings success but would you rather trade them for assets while they have value and can contribute to another team where they could maybe capture another cup?
Or stay on a retooling team that's nowhere near contending and watch them decline?
I know what I'd rather see happen.
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Jan. 28, 2019 at 9:57 p.m.
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Your response makes no sense at all.

We have plenty of good and really good players if you know anything about hockey or the NHL or the Kings, you'd know that. But those players can't do it themselves. They need help. They need better players to play with. Do you have any common sense. Blake hasn't even tried bringing in better players. He skipped right past that.


LA has two star players - Kopitar and Doughty. One might consider Quick as a star goalie, but he has suffered injuries this season and he has somewhat erratic with his game.

Imo LA has too many veterans signed to big contracts. The team is one of oldest in average in the league. Most of the players aren't really performing like they're worth their salaries, and therefore they're hard to trade.

It's like the team is built like a contending team, with assumed talent and experience, but they just don't play well enough to win. That's what it seems like.

Blake is in my opinion doing the right thing. Rebuilding. Because if they are not winning now, they certainly are not going to be any closer to winning whilst getting even older.
Jan. 28, 2019 at 10:06 p.m.
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LA has two star players - Kopitar and Doughty. One might consider Quick as a star goalie, but he has suffered injuries this season and he has somewhat erratic with his game.

Imo LA has too many veterans signed to big contracts. The team is one of oldest in average in the league. Most of the players aren't really performing like they're worth their salaries, and therefore they're hard to trade.

It's like the team is built like a contending team, with assumed talent and experience, but they just don't play well enough to win. That's what it seems like.

Blake is in my opinion doing the right thing. Rebuilding. Because if they are not winning now, they certainly are not going to be any closer to winning whilst getting even older.


My previous response applies again.
Jan. 28, 2019 at 10:15 p.m.
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My previous response applies again.


Whatever floats your boat, man
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Jan. 28, 2019 at 11:59 p.m.
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Isn't Rasmus Kupari a Kings prospect? He had a great WJC
Kings need to do a 1-2 year retool, trade off any UFA'S(Hagelin) at this TDL if there's any interest in them.
Even though they don't have NMC's talk to Carter and Quick to see where they'd be open to going to in a trade and sell them both off for prospects/picks. After next season ends some smaller contracts like Lewis, Clifford and a few others expire and those contracts add up to about $6 million in cap space that could be used in a trade or to sign a UFA. They should also talk to Kovalchuk and say it didn't work out, we're heading into a retool and if you want to compete for a cup waive your NMC and we'll try to trade you to a contending team. If they can trade Kovalchuk they shouldnt expect a huge return but hopefully can grab a pick or prospect. If they do that, draft well and if they score one of the early picks this summer they might be able to turn things around in 2-3 years. Also by then a lot of contracts like Phaneuf's will be expiring or close to expiring which will free up a lot of cap space, there's no quick fix, it's likely gonna take at least a season or two of pain to turn things around in LA.


I suppose it depends on how long one thinks a rebuild is. Just that prospects don't usually make big impacts right away unless they are a top end pick.
Jan. 29, 2019 at 12:01 a.m.
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I suppose it depends on how long one thinks a rebuild is. Just that prospects don't usually make big impacts right away unless they are a top end pick.


The Kings are probably going to have one of the top 3 picks lol. Probably 1 or two more in the top 10 if they trade Carter and Quick to the right teams.
Jan. 29, 2019 at 12:11 a.m.
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The Kings are probably going to have one of the top 3 picks lol. Probably 1 or two more in the top 10 if they trade Carter and Quick to the right teams.


Fair enough. Turn around isn't possible for the Kings but I personally don't think a rebuild is a bad idea either.
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